Graham Potter Thread

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

18 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Potter would have gone by now under Abramovich. The Premier league, Championship and even League 1 is littered with multi millionaire and billionaire owners that are quite content for their clubs to tick merrily along in mediocrity as a cash cow.

Its becoming increasingly apparent we are now in that category.

The point is Abramovich would never have hired him in the first.

Question : When was the last time England produced a world class manager if ever? 
 

If you're struggling to answer that, then its self evident. Get this useless fuck outta here 

 

 

[ZAPHOD2319 4,801]

 

[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

Aren't these Tuchel's signings as well? If anything its making Potter's job more difficult tbf. 

[Vegetable 830]

28 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

 

It's not much different from what Sarri was saying few good years ago, is it? But I guess we hire managers to deal with it, not excuse them with it.

Fun thing is, Arsenal is often brought up here as a similar project, but I think Arteta is closer to Lamps, than what we have now - he was their own men of sorts, learning from master manager so one could consider him credible man for the job of building the organic project. Meanwhile Potter? Can't find any argument by TB why he was hired, except he liked him and "we liked what he did in Brighton" and that's a problem - he has no success to back himself up, no reputation and no charisma, so I cannot be surprised players (especially this bunch) may not be very willing to die for him, especially after his horrendous pressers - professionalism only goes so far. The situation at the club is so dull that it led to even Kante tapping out, so that's how serious it is.

There is a positive way of setting up a project and the negative way. For now I only see us going latter. Reading this thread is crushing my soul as we went from discussing whether a new manager will hit the ground running and make us step up and win silverware to discussing 8 games in whether a new manager is even capable of managing elite team at all, so that's telling.     

Edited January 2, 2023 by Vegetable

[DDA 9,924]

31 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Aren't these Tuchel's signings as well? If anything its making Potter's job more difficult tbf. 

Exactly...it seems asif his signings have been nothing short of shocking if you include the Lukaku signing also.

 

[Hashishi 148]

1 minute ago, DDA said:

Exactly...it seems asif his signings have been nothing short of shocking if you include the Lukaku signing also.

 

I don't think tuchel wanted Donkey. I think he said he wanted a striker and Cech and Marina targeted him as the best availible striker. Potter would love a 'top class' player like Donkey. He's won more trophies than him.

[Vegetable 830]

2 minutes ago, DDA said:

Exactly...it seems asif his signings have been nothing short of shocking if you include the Lukaku signing also.

 

Wasn't it the beginning of TT demise when reportedly Marina got Lukaku (as club failed at bringing anyone reasonable) that TT didn't really fancy yet was mysteriously obligated to include him in every game? 

[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

16 minutes ago, Hashishi said:

I don't think tuchel wanted Donkey. I think he said he wanted a striker and Cech and Marina targeted him as the best availible striker. Potter would love a 'top class' player like Donkey. He's won more trophies than him.

Reports Tuchel and McLaughlan prioritized a ST at all costs over Tchouameni. They needed a CM so they opted for Saul on loan in the meantime. 

Besides, Koulibaly, Sterling, Cucurella, have all been either shit or below average. These are Tuchel signings so it isn't entirely out of the relm of possibility that Tuchel wanted Lukaku as well. 

[Hashishi 148]

1 minute ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Reports Tuchel and McLaughlan prioritized a ST at all costs over Tchouameni. They needed a CM so they opted for Saul on loan in the meantime. 

Besides, Koulibaly, Sterling, Cucurella, have all been either shit or below average. These are Tuchel signings so it isn't entirely out of the relm of possibility that Tuchel wanted Lukaku as well. 

Why would he want him and then not want to play him? This summer there was a lack of talent on the market in general and besides, tuchel didn't even want to be in charge of transfers. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

1 minute ago, Hashishi said:

Why would he want him and then not want to play him? This summer there was a lack of talent on the market in general and besides, tuchel didn't even want to be in charge of transfers. 

He did play him? He played him every game up until his ankle injury. He then stopped playing him after that bloody interview he gave and when it became evident we were a better team without him. Something that took Tuchel ages to realize. 

[Costa19 858]

12 minutes ago, Hashishi said:

I don't think tuchel wanted Donkey. I think he said he wanted a striker and Cech and Marina targeted him as the best availible striker. Potter would love a 'top class' player like Donkey. He's won more trophies than him.

Makes you wonder why the club let Lukaku leave when they reportedly where uncertain about Tuchels job very early.

I mean, we have one of the best tap-in merchants on our books and are crying for a striker.. 

And its not the case about Lukaku not beeing suited to our system because right now we play like shit and cant even conduct games against Nottingham Forrest and equivalent teams….

 

[Hashishi 148]

2 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

He did play him? He played him every game up until his ankle injury. He then stopped playing him after that bloody interview he gave and when it became evident we were a better team without him. Something that took Tuchel ages to realize. 

The issue was he didn't run enough or press. Any decent scouting team would've seen he doesn't fit our system. I blame the scouts for not being able to find a sub 90m player that would actually work in the team.

1 minute ago, Costa19 said:

Makes you wonder why the club let Lukaku leave when they reportedly where uncertain about Tuchels job very early.

I mean, we have one of the best tap-in merchants on our books and are crying for a striker.. 

And its not the case about Lukaku not beeing suited to our system because right now we play like shit and cant even conduct games against Nottingham Forrest and equivalent teams….

 

Dude are you actually saying he should be in the team after his INTERVIEWS (plural because he is still talking shit about us from Italy). He didn't want to be here, we didn't want him. He used us to get a pay rise but didn't actually want to move team. He isn't better than what we have and is a donkey in general. He is not even first choice at inter, dzeko is. Even their fans think he is a donkey. The thing we're discussing is who is at fault for signing him, not whether he should be here because that boat sailed last October.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,801]

11 minutes ago, Hashishi said:

Why would he want him and then not want to play him? This summer there was a lack of talent on the market in general and besides, tuchel didn't even want to be in charge of transfers. 

He was caught in an odd place after the interview. If that interview had not happened, Lukaku would have been on the team sheet every game until injured.

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

1 hour ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

The point is Abramovich would never have hired him in the first.

 

Not so sure about that, this is the bloke that hired the sack of shit with the urine drinking wife.

1 hour ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

Question : When was the last time England produced a world class manager if ever? 
 

If you're struggling to answer that, then its self evident. Get this useless fuck outta here 

Not struggling - my immediate thoughts were World Cup winning Alf Ramsay and Sir Bobby Robson -if youre talking British Bob Paisley, Bill Shankly, our own Dave Sexton was good.

Anyway my point stands if Boehly and the Hedge fund managers just want a trophy club as a profit making cash cow and are not interested in success -getting rid of Potter and replacing is a pointless exercise. We're fucked

[ZAPHOD2319 4,801]

It has never been the profile of these owners to spend just enough and sock away profits. They have always been spend big, develop young talent for the team or profit, and create a brand of winning that sells a lot of merch.