Laylabelle 9,535 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, robsblubot said: I hear you... I'm not saying I agree with that, but Imo it's the way the game has gone with millionaire players who can pick and choose where they play and who they play for. Nahh knew you weren't just frustrating because you know it's happening and does again and again and again. Except this time nothing had changed since Potter took over so don't think case for Tuchel so much..more the squad is a bit shitty robsblubot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren 41 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, DDA said: The midfield is criminally poor. That is where the biggest problem is.. Until that fixed.... we won't see any improvements. Yup, it is poor. Kovavic and Jorginho in particular are football Kryptonite. I think the attitude of the players is a big problem as well though. Far too often they lumber around looking like they're moving in treacle, playing at 50% effort. Very little basic professional pride among them I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 The more we spend, the worse we get. bluephoenix and Johnnyeye 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, robsblubot said: I hear you... I'm not saying I agree with that, but Imo it's the way the game has gone with millionaire players who can pick and choose where they play and who they play for. I mean… Can't blame them. Our players should be rightfully bashed for not cooperating with elite managers, but you just cannot hire joke of rookie manager to manage elite team. It may work the other way, but this situation, wtf did TB expect to happen? I would down my tools myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, DDA said: The midfield is criminally poor. That is where the biggest problem is.. Until that fixed.... we won't see any improvements. Nah the biggest problem is the manager. Clearly. I mean it has to be no? There is no way this standards would stand under any other competent manager with experience and know how at a big club. We struggled with Tuchel start of season and last season but was it ever this bad? Like the run we’ve been on (granted we had more shots tonight and their GK was busy) has anybody seen anything and thought this is getting better? Or we’re making progress? I haven’t seen anything from the last few months or so to think that his appointment is going to lead us somewhere positive. didi007 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Just now, Vegetable said: I mean… Can't blame them. Our players should be rightfully bashed for not cooperating with elite managers, but you just cannot hire joke of rookie manager to manage elite team. It may work the other way, but this situation, wtf did TB expect to happen? I would down my tools myself. Again I could..earn money money money. Fans spend money money and get treated to that. Know never works that way but make a effort for the ones who turn up. Johnnyeye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren 41 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, Vesper said: one season wonder SHIT goalie his flaws were already visible even when we won the CL and Kepa is dogshit too Yeah, I don't claim he's elite. I can't crap on him though after that CL win. The other thing is, when he came in after Kepa it was like a breath of fresh air. Kepa is beyond shit. Johnnyeye and robsblubot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Vegetable said: I mean… Can't blame them. Our players should be rightfully bashed for not cooperating with elite managers, but you just cannot hire joke of rookie manager to manage elite team. It may work the other way, but this situation, wtf did TB expect to happen? I would down my tools myself. That's where alot of you guys have a problem, you still think these are elite players. Have a word Bren and ulsterchelsea 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEREIAM 83 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Azpi, KK, Jorginho and Havertz should be nowhere near this team, Mount seems like he's gone on strike because he's not getting his pay rise, Havertz is a donkey needs to be sold, Felix was the best player on the pitch until he lost the plot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymop 90 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 A lot of things have worked against Potter,massive injury list etc . He is probably a very decent guy and may even be a decent coach ( jury still out ) but sometimes you can just be the wrong man at the wrong time. I just don’t see how he can stay Johnnyeye and DDA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,938 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, Seymop said: A lot of things have worked against Potter,massive injury list etc . He is probably a very decent guy and may even be a decent coach ( jury still out ) but sometimes you can just be the wrong man at the wrong time. I just don’t see how he can stay Totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Seymop said: A lot of things have worked against Potter,massive injury list etc . He is probably a very decent guy and may even be a decent coach ( jury still out ) but sometimes you can just be the wrong man at the wrong time. I just don’t see how he can stay I hope he leaves and finds success again elsewhere. It was a challenge but one step too far... Vegetable and Johnnyeye 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Laylabelle said: Again I could..earn money money money. Fans spend money money and get treated to that. Know never works that way but make a effort for the ones who turn up. Absolutely true. But the last player I can reacall who really had fans in mind was like… Hazard? 3 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: That's where alot of you guys have a problem, you still think these are elite players. Have a word Not title contenders, but I still don't see us as Forest of Fulham level team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Seymop said: may even be a decent coach ( jury still out ) Perhaps, but certainly not for any of top 50 teams in the world. Out of his depth all the way. Also, I still have no idea what Potter is trying to impose here. Other managers I had zero doubts since their first game. Edited January 12, 2023 by Vegetable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Vegetable said: I mean… Can't blame them. Our players should be rightfully bashed for not cooperating with elite managers, but you just cannot hire joke of rookie manager to manage elite team. It may work the other way, but this situation, wtf did TB expect to happen? I would down my tools myself. While I am also not onboard with this bet on potter, there is a certain level of professionalism that I expect from footballers. I understand we are in an injury crisis and yet our starting XI is 10 times the value of most teams we play against in the PL. Some of the players aren't even attainable for those smaller clubs. Willian was considered "deadwood" years ago. Edited January 12, 2023 by robsblubot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,319 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Injury FC Mendy James Fofana - Chilwell Zakaria Kante RLC Pulisic Broja Sterling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluephoenix 1,131 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: The more we spend, the worse we get. Because like always we are trying to scrape the tumor off when we should be addressing the underlying cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, robsblubot said: While I also not onboard with this bet on potter, there is a certain level of professionalism that I expect from footballers. I understand we are in an injury crisis and yet our starting XI is 10 times the value of most teams we play against in the PL. Some of the players aren't even attainable for those smaller clubs. Willian was considered "deadwood" years ago. I think the problem is those, who are actually on proper level of professionalism are, bar Silva, just not good enough (anymore). This team is extremely easy to get their morale down super quick and I guess Potter didn't quite impress first few games, so there is that. However there is still something like play for the badge, and if not for the badge, just for the contract you are obligated by, but this dressing room had showed multiple times it's not their thing. Johnnyeye and robsblubot 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Injury FC Mendy James Fofana - Chilwell Zakaria Kante RLC Pulisic Broja Sterling The big absences for me are the fullbacks, Kante, and Mendy (esp considering how poor Kepa is). I don't think the others make that much of an impact -- perhaps Sterling once once he starts clicking with the team, but it hasn't happened yet. And here's the issue: James, Chilwell, and Kante have all been injury prone of late. Edited January 12, 2023 by robsblubot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,175 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 a sure sign of doom bluephoenix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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