Chelsea 2 - 2 Tottenham

[Fulham Broadway 16,408]

29 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

But: -

• Has his pay been stopped? Otherwise what kind of punishment is it to be given a week off?
• Pay or no pay this is just a sop to quieten the masses. What difference does his suspension make to anybody? What are they doing to fix the problem?
• There need to be two VAR officials officiating independently and without the ability to communicate with each other. If their assessment of an event is unanimous that decision is passed to the referee. If they are split, the ref is called to the screen to make the decision. Ideally the referee would not know which officials are on VAR duty and neither VAR official will know who the other is. That at least makes cheating more difficult.

Reminds me of the government when they've been caught lying red handed.  Nothing will change.

They'll probably start using the same terminology -''lessons have been learned'', ''time to put this behind now and focus on the matter in hand'' 

The serious side, apart from the match fixing is the potential for serious disorder. This would result in the reversal of standing areas and all the leaps forward since the dark days.

[cosmicway 1,260]

8 hours ago, Strike said:

Couple of things. The Havertz foul before the Spurs goal took place 40+ seconds before the actual goal and even if Romero was sent off for violent conduct, the game would restart with a Spurs corner and they'd just have one man less in the box. The Richarlison offside could have been given but that's more of a VAR call and not Taylor alone. Tuchel has to look within at some point this week whenever he is calmer.

 

- About Havertz, we have seen numerous VAR calls with 40+ seconds elapsed time.
- The hair pulling is a foul and Taylor let it go.

Also  If Romero is sent off or sees a yellow as a result of a VAR call then it's a foul.
Why else would he be sent off / cautioned and when a VAR call takes place the game resumes from the point of the VAR call incident.

[xPetrCechx 13,548]

After that positive Oliver Skipp news, unfortunately here's some negative injury news. Understand Cristian Romero is set to be out for a few weeks with a muscle injury. More details below. https://t.co/IGabnrh4i9

 

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[Fulham Broadway 16,408]

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[Superblue 6,331]

On 16/08/2022 at 18:04, OhForAGreavsie said:

But: -

• Has his pay been stopped? Otherwise what kind of punishment is it to be given a week off?
• Pay or no pay this is just a sop to quieten the masses. What difference does his suspension make to anybody? What are they doing to fix the problem?
• There need to be two VAR officials officiating independently and without the ability to communicate with each other. If their assessment of an event is unanimous that decision is passed to the referee. If they are split, the ref is called to the screen to make the decision. Ideally the referee would not know which officials are on VAR duty and neither VAR official will know who the other is. That at least makes cheating more difficult.

Like this idea.

As mentioned previously the referee 'community' has been so protected and insulated for too long I believe they are extremely reluctant to call out on each others decisions.

For me, VAR training and refereeing away from the pitch is significantly different from an on pitch official. These should be completely independent as a 'group' from the referees and new VAR officials should be trained as such (i.e. you do one or the other, no capability to be both).

[OhForAGreavsie 5,776]

2 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

For me, VAR training and refereeing away from the pitch is significantly different from an on pitch official. These should be completely independent as a 'group' from the referees and new VAR officials should be trained as such (i.e. you do one or the other, no capability to be both).

Excellent idea. Throughout football we want people who are specialists at what they do. In addition, if they never officiate in stadium then there is much less chance of them forming negative feelings towards any club, even subconsciously, because of historical incidents.

[MoroccanBlue 5,200]

Anyone read Mike Dean's comments. Admitted he got the call wrong. 

Like I said, there may or may not be an agenda involving Chelsea. But what is for certain is that when ever there is a 50/50 situation, officials will likely pick the situation that doesn't go in our favor, and this is an undeniably fact based on the data. 

[OhForAGreavsie 5,776]

6 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Anyone read Mike Dean's comments. Admitted he got the call wrong. 

Like I said, there may or may not be an agenda involving Chelsea. But what is for certain is that when ever there is a 50/50 situation, officials will likely pick the situation that doesn't go in our favor, and this is an undeniably fact based on the data. 

I can't claim to have seen statistics but it certainly feels like that. Whenever the circumstance allows room for personal interpretation by the officials, the interpretation always seems to go against us. 

[manpe 10,857]

3 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Anyone read Mike Dean's comments. Admitted he got the call wrong.

What did he say?

But it doesn't matter anymore now does it. He got his 1 week vacation for doing what he was paid to do with bribe money. It will happen again in the future and he or someone else will get a "deserved" week or two off as "punishment".

[MoroccanBlue 5,200]

4 minutes ago, manpe said:

What did he say?

But it doesn't matter anymore now does it. He got his 1 week vacation for doing what he was paid to do with bribe money. It will happen again in the future and he or someone else will get a "deserved" week or two off as "punishment".

He said he didn't deem it violent conduct at the time. And after moments of review and chats with his colleagues, he admitted he should of told Taylor to check VAR for a possible red card. 

Mike Dean doing Mike Dean things. 

[manpe 10,857]

6 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

He said he didn't deem it violent conduct at the time. And after moments of review and chats with his colleagues, he admitted he should of told Taylor to check VAR for a possible red card. 

Mike Dean doing Mike Dean things. 

Why this cunt is still put to Tottenshits games after publicly celebrating their goals can only have one explanation.

Where there is big money there is corruption. The more money is involved the more there is corruption, and the most moolah goes through England. I don't buy it that with all of its resources England can only produce incompetent bastards, absolutely not buying it. I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years there will be a huge scandal over match fixing, hopefully investigative journalists are already on it.

Edited August 18, 2022 by manpe

[MoroccanBlue 5,200]

This isn't just a Chelsea related issue. This is a Premier League issue. 

Anthony Taylor is looking right at the incident, and allegedly he didn't see it. (No surprise given his awareness is shockingly bad.) You then also have Dean, on VAR, who has multiple opportunities to review the incident and STILL made the incorrect call. 

How is the FA/Premier League still giving these two big matches? 

[King Kante 1,301]

6 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

This isn't just a Chelsea related issue. This is a Premier League issue. 

Anthony Taylor is looking right at the incident, and allegedly he didn't see it. (No surprise given his awareness is shockingly bad.) You then also have Dean, on VAR, who has multiple opportunities to review the incident and STILL made the incorrect call. 

How is the FA/Premier League still giving these two big matches? 

Taylor is ranked as the second best ref in the country isn't he? 

[ZAPHOD2319 3,880]

6 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

This isn't just a Chelsea related issue. This is a Premier League issue. 

Anthony Taylor is looking right at the incident, and allegedly he didn't see it. (No surprise given his awareness is shockingly bad.) You then also have Dean, on VAR, who has multiple opportunities to review the incident and STILL made the incorrect call. 

How is the FA/Premier League still giving these two big matches? 

Far be it for me to defend Taylor, but when you are following the flight of the ball, you may not see what is right in front of you. That is where VAR is supposed to step in.

[Superblue 6,331]

39 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Taylor is ranked as the second best ref in the country isn't he? 

Guess it depends on who you're asking out of the FA/PGMOL and actual football fans that have him referee their team

[manpe 10,857]

12 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

How is the FA/Premier League still giving these two big matches? 

Because they are doing exactly what is asked of them and what they are paid for.

[bigbluewillie 1,807]

As we all know, yet another corrupt organisation.

Just like UEFA and Ovrebo

Edited August 19, 2022 by bigbluewillie

[robsblubot 3,229]

I see folks focusing on the missing chances, but tbh I did not see anything crazy.

Scoring 2 goals against the good team of Spurs should've been enough esp at home. Defending was piss-poor however.