MoroccanBlue 5,381 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) No way this club sings Dembele. Surely? Dest is the only one that should be coming. Edited January 20, 2022 by MoroccanBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,170 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Pizy said: Just get Dest, ffs. Loan or permanent. this seems to me to be the most viable option, as he is semi ambipedal (per presenters on La Liga TV on multiple occasions, and also via my own eyes), and can play both sides for fullback I am just gutted if Theo renews with AC Milan (and it is 97% plus done, ffs, until 2026 at triple his current salary) I know I am a whingey bint about him (and also, until he went to PSG, Hakimi) but FFS, wingbacks are so damn key for us The figures of the renewal of Theo Hernández The aforementioned Italian media, which stands out for its information on the Rossoneri team, reports that the left back will receive 4.5 million euros per season (his current record is 1.5 million euros per year) and will extend his bond in San Siro until June 30, 2026. A shield that will keep away all the teams that have shown interest in it in recent months. Mauricio Pochettino’s PSG and Thomas Tuchel’s Chelsea are the two teams that have shown the most interest in recent months for Theo Hernández, who was interested in making a leap in quality, but who has made the decision to stay due to the relevance that he has in the AC Milan project and for the growth of the team, which is fighting for the Serie A title with Inter Milan. The renewal will close the exit doors to another club in the short term, unless an offer of more than 100 million euros arrives. Or the player himself makes the decision to ask for his departure in the coming years. FFS! he NEW pay rate is only £72K PW!!!! we could have BLOWN that away easily Edited January 20, 2022 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Pizy said: I’d absolutely take him on a cheap deal now or free in the summer. His pace alone will mean he’s a massive upgrade on Ziyech and he can’t be worse than CHO in current form. The bar isn't set very high then, is it? Compare him with our current lot, it would look as though we are just throwing money at something and hoping it sticks without any actual thought put behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,051 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, Jase said: The bar isn't set very high then, is it? Compare him with our current lot, it would look as though we are just throwing money at something and hoping it sticks without any actual thought put behind it. I think he would definitely be someone Tuchel pushed for if he were to join. He knows him well & has spoken highly of him on a number of occasions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Just now, LAM09 said: I think he would definitely be someone Tuchel pushed for if he were to join. He knows him well & has spoken highly of him on a number of occasions. Doesn't guarantee he'll be a success and not to mention, there's his very dodgy injury record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,170 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Jase said: The bar isn't set very high then, is it? Compare him with our current lot, it would look as though we are just throwing money at something and hoping it sticks without any actual thought put behind it. are not his wage demands INSANE? like £692K PW insane? plus a crazy signing bonus in the tens of millions? even if you reduce that wage by two thirds it is still £228K PW, which would be £70-80m in wages and signing bonus (if £10 to 20m) over 5 years! meanwhile Theo will cost AC Milan only around £16.2m over 5 years in wages (this season plus 4 more) Even if you toss in a full year's new salary as a renewal bonus (which may not even be the case) it is only £19.9m in toto FFS Edited January 20, 2022 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,051 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, Jase said: Doesn't guarantee he'll be a success and not to mention, there's his very dodgy injury record. That's why @Pizy mentioned it's decent business if we can get him on the cheap. I'm sure you'd agree. Boycie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,815 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 His wage demands are enough for this to seem like it is never going to happen. Then his injury record. To make it even more far fetched are the fines he has received from Barcelona for being late. It is also said he doesn't like give a lot of effort in training. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, LAM09 said: That's why @Pizy mentioned it's decent business if we can get him on the cheap. I'm sure you'd agree. If we are going to buy an attacker, at least get someone who for sure will be a success. Buying someone on the cheap for the sake of it is pointless if that person turns out to be a dud anyway. Mind you, we bought Ziyech for kinda on the cheap side when you consider how much we paid for Werner, Havertz, Lukaku etc and yet, he's turned out to be a dud and people want him gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,051 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jase said: If we are going to buy an attacker, at least get someone who for sure will be a success. Buying someone on the cheap for the sake of it is pointless if that person turns out to be a dud anyway. Mind you, we bought Ziyech for kinda on the cheap side when you consider how much we paid for Werner, Havertz, Lukaku etc and yet, he's turned out to be a dud and people want him gone. There's no guarantee either way. We paid big for Pulisic & how is that working out? Days of actually buying starting quality are gone for the most part. If everything were to line up, the pros would outweigh the cons where this deal is concerned. His attitude (Fortnite addiction 😄) would be the main worry for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,938 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I'd take Dembele everyday of the week for a cut price Boycie and mkh 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, LAM09 said: There's no guarantee either way. We paid big for Pulisic & how is that working out? Days of actually buying starting quality are gone for the most part. We paid big for Pulisic, who wasn't even close to a guarantee to begin with and we're surprised by the current situation? Moreover, even if Dembele is on the cheap side, I find it weird people want an injury prone player when the same people always complain about Pulisic being injury prone (even though he hasn't had a notable injury "caused" by himself in a long time). Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,903 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 The way I’d look at Dembele is similar to Ross Barkley. A player who at the time would ordinarily have cost an absolute bomb to buy if they had a longer contract but was signed for cheap because his contract was soon expiring. You sign them for cheap, kick the tires to see what you have, and then decide what to do. If he works out and lives up to his incredible potential you have a top class player for peanuts (transfer fee wise) and if he doesn’t you aren’t fucking yourself over for 5 years having paid tens of millions. I’m not saying we should prioritize Dembele at all costs or anything but if I woke up on deadline day and saw that we signed him for £15-20m I wouldn’t be against it. Not really any downside at those prices. mkh and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Pizy said: The way I’d look at Dembele is similar to Ross Barkley. A player who at the time would ordinarily have cost an absolute bomb to buy if they had a longer contract but was signed for cheap because his contract was soon expiring. You sign them for cheap, kick the tires to see what you have, and then decide what to do. If he works out and lives up to his incredible potential you have a top class player for peanuts (transfer fee wise) and if he doesn’t you aren’t fucking yourself over for 5 years having paid tens of millions. I’m not saying we should prioritize Dembele at all costs or anything but if I woke up on deadline day and saw that we signed him for £15-20m I wouldn’t be against it. Not really any downside at those prices. I hope you remember that we still have Barkley in the books and have been struggling him to get rid of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,381 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 No way the club are that daft. Injury prone. Inconsistent. Poor attitude. Only player that should be coming in this window is Dest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,903 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, Jase said: I hope you remember that we still have Barkley in the books and have been struggling him to get rid of him. True. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, Jase said: I hope you remember that we still have Barkley in the books and have been struggling him to get rid of him. The problem has been constant change managers. Had we stuck with Conte for a while we long gotten rid of those duds. If we stick with Tuchel we can get rid of them and get players that fit the profile. I still think we did great with Lampard and improve on Tuchel. Tuchel has a slowdown but it's nothing that can be fixed with another season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,252 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 our wingers are purely shit i don't be against dembele signing for almost free paid mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,051 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 39 minutes ago, Jase said: We paid big for Pulisic, who wasn't even close to a guarantee to begin with and we're surprised by the current situation? Moreover, even if Dembele is on the cheap side, I find it weird people want an injury prone player when the same people always complain about Pulisic being injury prone (even though he hasn't had a notable injury "caused" by himself in a long time). If you're paying £54m for a player, I'd expect them to hit more than 11 goals in a season. Players can get past injury issues when their young, well managed & have the right fitness routine in place. Also, keep in mind that he did play 34 games for Barcelona last season, not 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,439 Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Jase said: Doesn't guarantee he'll be a success and not to mention, there's his very dodgy injury record. We have nearly a whole squad that's injury prone. And then we add another injury prone player. Can't make this up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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