Chelsea Transfers

[Blues Forever 1,232]

1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said:

Another option for summer 

I read some rumour,  his release clause can only become active when Haaland only have 1 year left in his contract.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,942]

Not sure how reliable The Sun is, but evidently there is more discussion between the clubs about Dembele. More outlets jumping on the Robin Gosens story too.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/10804552/chelsea-dembele-transfer-cavani-talks/?scrlybrkr=fdda1fa4

[Vesper 31,073]

9 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

Not sure how reliable The Sun is, but evidently there is more discussion between the clubs about Dembele. More outlets jumping on the Robin Gosens story too.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/10804552/chelsea-dembele-transfer-cavani-talks/?scrlybrkr=fdda1fa4

lol, that Sun article also says we are battling Barca for a 21yo RB (NOT LB) in the 2ND TIER league in Switzerland

ffs

[Vesper 31,073]

Zé Luís denied a work permit for Spuds

deal off

http://sportwitness.co.uk/work-permit-stopped-tottenham-signing-now-club-willing-sell-striker-e20m/

 

as Brexit starts to really hit, expect to see this a lot more (especially with Euro players, as freedom of movement will be gone)

 

[Henrique 9,133]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

Zé Luís denied a work permit for Spuds

deal off

http://sportwitness.co.uk/work-permit-stopped-tottenham-signing-now-club-willing-sell-striker-e20m/

 

as Brexit starts to really hit, expect to see this a lot more (especially with Euro players, as freedom of movement will be gone)

 

No mate. He is from Cape Verde. Brexit wont affect non european players.

[Vesper 31,073]

1 minute ago, Henrique said:

No mate. He is from Cape Verde. Brexit wont affect non european players.

read what I said

Brexit will start to effect EUROPEAN non Brits

[Jase 43,479]

 

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

Zé Luís denied a work permit for Spuds

deal off

http://sportwitness.co.uk/work-permit-stopped-tottenham-signing-now-club-willing-sell-striker-e20m/

 

as Brexit starts to really hit, expect to see this a lot more (especially with Euro players, as freedom of movement will be gone)

 

This is nonsense by the way. Brexit has nothing to do with it and won't affect 99.9% of footballers. It even days in that article that the reason is because he's never sorted a European passport.

[Vesper 31,073]

15 minutes ago, ulsterchelsea said:

This is nonsense by the way. Brexit has nothing to do with it and won't affect 99.9% of footballers. It even days in that article that the reason is because he's never sorted a European passport.

I was not talking about Zé Luís

and if you think that Brexit taking away the right of free movement for Europeans will not have an effect on footballers

you need to go read up on transnational labour/immigration law

why do you think it is so hard now for non EU players to get a work permit unless they can prove they are internationally recognised talents

the FA also wants to cut down on the number of foreign players (the EPL is against this) and change what constitutes 'homegrown'

How might Brexit affect the Premier League?

https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2019/feb/14/how-might-brexit-affect-premier-league

snip

Brexit could mean players from EU and European Economic Area countries are subject to the same, visa and work permit restrictions as players from countries outside the EU, making the criteria for signing players stricter and making it harder for teams to trade.

snip

 

numpty Little Englanders who voted Leave just assumed the EU would bend over like a bish (pro tip, it isn't happening) and also never took into account so many consequences on so many facets of British life itself (including football)

of course maybe you side with Colin

Neil Warnock on Brexit: 'I can't wait to leave. To hell with the rest of the world'

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jan/12/neil-warnock-cardiff-city-brexit-leave

 

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

21 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I was not talking about Zé Luís

and if you think that Brexit taking away the right of free movement for Europeans will not have an effect on footballers

you need to go read up on transnational labour/immigration law

why do you think it is so hard now for non EU players to get a work permit unless they can prove they are internationally recognised talents

the FA also wants to cut down on the number of foreign players (the EPL is against this) and change what constitutes 'homegrown'

How might Brexit affect the Premier League?

https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2019/feb/14/how-might-brexit-affect-premier-league

snip

Brexit could mean players from EU and European Economic Area countries are subject to the same, visa and work permit restrictions as players from countries outside the EU, making the criteria for signing players stricter and making it harder for teams to trade.

snip

 

numpty Little Englanders who voted Leave just assumed the EU would bend over like a bish (pro tip, it isn't happening) and also never took into account so many consequences on so many facets of British life itself (including football)

of course maybe you side with Colin

Neil Warnock on Brexit: 'I can't wait to leave. To hell with the rest of the world'

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jan/12/neil-warnock-cardiff-city-brexit-leave

 

IFS, maybes and more scare stories. Believe it when I see it. Don't think brexit needs discussed in a transfer thread anyway tbh

[Vesper 31,073]

20 minutes ago, ulsterchelsea said:

IFS, maybes and more scare stories. Believe it when I see it. Don't think brexit needs discussed in a transfer thread anyway tbh

it quite likely will affect transfers in the near future

that is all I was saying

[OhForAGreavsie 6,125]

34 minutes ago, ulsterchelsea said:

IFS, maybes and more scare stories. Believe it when I see it. Don't think brexit needs discussed in a transfer thread anyway tbh

Not the brexit issue itself I agree, but the way brexit might impact transfer regulations is a legitimate, and interesting, conversation for this sub-forum I think.

[King Kante 1,643]

Imo Brexit is very unlikely to affect transfers because the UK government appears to want to move to a points based immigration policy. This esstentially means poor immigrants get locked out (unless they are in industries with dire needs) and rich immigrants get in and it is easy £££££ for the government. No way, do the UK make it difficult for a PL player to come and play here as they make too much money off of them. 

Argue all you want about Brexit and immigration but rest assured, the UK will allow in as many multi-millionaires that pay tax as they can get. 

[Vesper 31,073]

20 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Imo Brexit is very unlikely to affect transfers because the UK government appears to want to move to a points based immigration policy. This esstentially means poor immigrants get locked out (unless they are in industries with dire needs) and rich immigrants get in and it is easy £££££ for the government. No way, do the UK make it difficult for a PL player to come and play here as they make too much money off of them. 

Argue all you want about Brexit and immigration but rest assured, the UK will allow in as many multi-millionaires that pay tax as they can get. 

I hope you are right on this

and the FA can fuck off with their Britain (really meaning England) First bullshit

[turgi 71]

Just read the last ten pages of this thread and it's depressing as fuck.

Would be better with a transfer ban.

[Vesper 31,073]

On 1/21/2020 at 11:40 PM, NikkiCFC said:

Time to panic! 

Dembele with another goal and assist tonight. 6 goals and 3 assists in 5 games in 2020. Drop more money at Lyon. 

[Styl1994 188]

8 minutes ago, Vesper said:

People comparing Dembele to Batshuayi lol Dembele is a much better all round footballer. Offer Lyon 30m + Batshuayi get it done.

[Vesper 31,073]

 

[Vesper 31,073]

9 minutes ago, Styl1994 said:

People comparing Dembele to Batshuayi lol Dembele is a much better all round footballer. Offer Lyon 30m + Batshuayi get it done.

Marina says Bats is worth £45m LOLOL

so that would mean we are paying (in her 'brain') £75m for Dembele

 

[OhForAGreavsie 6,125]

17 hours ago, King Kante said:

Imo Brexit is very unlikely to affect transfers because the UK government appears to want to move to a points based immigration policy. This esstentially means poor immigrants get locked out (unless they are in industries with dire needs) and rich immigrants get in and it is easy £££££ for the government. No way, do the UK make it difficult for a PL player to come and play here as they make too much money off of them. 

Argue all you want about Brexit and immigration but rest assured, the UK will allow in as many multi-millionaires that pay tax as they can get. 

Fiscally, it does not matter where a taxpayer was born, just that he or she pays in to the revenue. All established Premier League players are multi millionaires and if a club is unable to fill its squad with overseas footballers it will fill it with domestic ones instead. They will still be paid and they will still be required to pay taxes.

It might be tempting to argue that salaries for non domestic players will be higher, and that tax revenue from those players will therefore be higher too. I'm not sure the data bears that out however. The cost of employing homegrown players is already disproportionately high and driving up demand for their services would drive up their costs too.

I don't know what the data shows regarding this next point but it seems to me that non domestic players are more likely to set up legal offshore pay arrangements for a portion of their earnings and avoid income tax altogether. What must be sure is that they will spend much more of their disposable income outside the UK. This means that indirect tax revenues will be lost, as will be the economic benefit of their spending circulating in the UK economy.

Lastly, there is the clear win for UK revenues of transfer spending staying inside the country and that money circulating around our clubs generating more transfer levies and further economic activity.

It can't simply be assumed that fewer overseas players means less tax revenue for the government, or reduced economic benefit to the UK economy. It could even be that the exact opposites are true.