Vesper 30,277 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) just wanted to park this here (it is about the 25 and under cut-off age by the board for buys) bottom line the only actually available WC 26yo and up players who it cocked us on were: 3 who were 28 to 30 (Oblak, 30, Skriniar, 28, and possibly Maignan, 28) no 27 yos were affected (as none on my extensive list were actually available) and then six 26yos, with the 2 AMFs the most controversial (In terms of us passing on them simply for being months too old) for most here I would think (most of these were crazy hard pulls btw) Frenkie de Jong Central Midfield 26 (too similar to Enzo IMHO) Nicolò Barella Central Midfield 26 (we got Caicedo instead) Lucas Paquetá Attacking Midfield 26 James Maddison Attacking Midfield 26 Ousmane Dembélé Right Winger 26 (I know many here don't rate him) Lautaro Martínez Centre-Forward 26 (I know many here don't rate him, even more than posters who do not rate Dembele) the linked long reply eliminates all the rest btw (for various reasons, mostly because they WERE all under 26, and thus not blocked, or were pipe dreams, not available) Edited September 3, 2023 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,109 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Vesper said: they are 2 very different type of players Ugarte is much more similar to Lavia than he is to Caicedo IMHO Yes but Enzo/Ugarte would have been a very good double pivot, I don’t think there’s any chance we spend 115m on an extra midfielder if that’s our starting point, it would be a completely nonsensical transfer if we were not in a state of total desperation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,277 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Mhsc said: Yes but Enzo/Ugarte would have been a very good double pivot, I don’t think there’s any chance we spend 115m on an extra midfielder if that’s our starting point, it would be a completely nonsensical transfer if we were not in a state of total desperation. I think once he settles, Caicedo will become WC, it just will take a bit, as he hardly had a preseason and it's chaos with us atm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,633 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 buy sesko in january Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Yeah throw money at our problems. Lets just keep doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,983 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 1 minute ago, MoroccanBlue said: Yeah throw money at our problems. Lets just keep doing that. Although I 100% agree its time to stop throwing money at problems... we do need to shell out for a proper striker at some point. It could change the whole feel of the club and boost every department on field and off field if we start converting our chances and win games. Norfolkblue1961 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,370 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) On 29/06/2023 at 02:22, NikkiCFC said: So if we draw the line today us and United are far away from top4. My opinion. This was back in June. It was clear. And if United didn't have refs help they would be even more down. 5 teams that are currently top5 will finish there. Three teams from London are best watch for me. They play best football. City will win title but is boring and Liverpool will finish top5 but are not good defensively. Now when you think about it we are not even top5 clubs in London forget the league lol Edited September 3, 2023 by NikkiCFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,557 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 16 hours ago, Thor said: 21st of Oct to the 7th of Dec schedule... Arsenal, Brentford, Spurs, City, Newcastle, Brighton and Man United... Poch better figure it out lol... Most of those teams won't "park the bus" and by then some of our wrinkles should be ironed out.most of currently injured would have returned by then,Lavia should be out of fat club etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,527 Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 14 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: This was back in June. It was clear. And if United didn't have refs help they would be even more down. 5 teams that are currently top5 will finish there. Three teams from London are best watch for me. They play best football. City will win title but is boring and Liverpool will finish top5 but are not good defensively. Now when you think about it we are not even top5 clubs in London forget the league lol Long long season ahead I think the doom and gloom here will be lifted partially as Lavia and Palmer begin playing and Ben Chilwell is moved back to his defensive position. Even though we've dropped points, the performances have been okay to good so far. Enzo misses a pen vs West Ham which could have taken the game our way Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolkblue1961 56 Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 On 03/09/2023 at 09:09, Mhsc said: I don’t know how many more times I can say this but it is NOT 3 at the back, it is 4 at the back with Chilwell playing as a winger. A number of people including Poch and Silva have said this but also, just using your eyes during the game makes it obvious. Colwill has been playing as a leftback. It is shite.....no matter what you call it Mhsc, Vesper and Blue Armour 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,277 Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 Ajax did the same thing with Spertsyan as we did with Zakharyan both turned down due to playing in Russia, so no go (and ironically both are of Armenian descent, not Russian) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,277 Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 lol just on name alone I am going to follow this bloke Seedy Jatta what a seedy hat trick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,823 Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 I have stayed away so people can vent, I am just not the kind of person that needs to. I am a real optimist, borderline irritating. We are going to have growing pains. I really think this group will come good. Fernando, bigbluewillie, Hamilton and 2 others 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,277 Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 Chelsea player will be “put on the market in January” if he doesn’t sign a contract extension https://www.Chelsea-news.co/2023/09/Chelsea-player-will-be-put-on-the-market-in-january-if-he-doesnt-sign-a-contract-extension/ With the summer transfer window over the time has come to reflect on it all and the business that was done. Chelsea did some incredible business and spent a lot of money. But as well as that, they managed to sell many of the deadwood players and make some incredible fees on player departures. They could have sold more as well and the squad size is still slightly too big for what Mauricio Pochettino would have ideally liked. A handful of Chelsea’s players could still have been sold on transfer deadline day last Friday but they ended up staying, one of which was Ian Maatsen. Burnley agreed a deal to sign him from Chelsea for £31.5 million, but Maatsen did not want to go and didn’t go! He wanted to stay at Chelsea and fair play to him for that. But if he doesn’t sign his new contract extension at the club, then he will be put on the transfer market in January. That is according to Ben Jacobs writing in his latest exclusive and extensive Chelsea FC column for SPTC today. He said: “I was surprised Ian Maatsen didn’t go to Burnley on a loan with an obligation to buy, especially after Marc Cucurella’s loan to Manchester United fell through. There are a lot of left-backs at the club suddenly, albeit Maatsen has been used in a more advanced position. “Had Burnley offered £20-25m at the beginning of the window, Maatsen would have likely moved. But he got minutes in pre-season and was reluctant to exit, even knowing Burnley so well from his time with them on loan last season. Chelsea now want Maatsen to sign a new contract and if he doesn’t he’s another one who will be put on the market in January.” related: Chelsea star Ian Maatsen celebrates after rejecting £31.5m deadline day transfer Chelsea have been one of the busiest Premier League teams during this summer's transfer window, but one of their proposed deadline day deals didn't end up going through https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/Chelsea-transfer-deadline-day-maatsen-30847250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vesper 30,277 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 (edited) Corinthians now desperate to sell Brazilian teen Gabriel Moscardo to Chelsea, Blues offering most money https://www.thechelseachronicle.com/transfer-news/club-now-desperate-to-sell-21m-player-to-Chelsea-in-record-sale-blues-offering-most-money/ That is according to Itatiaia in Brazil. So, what is the latest on Gabriel Moscardo and Chelsea? Let’s take a look… What’s the story? Well – according to Fabrizio Romano – Chelsea made a bid for the Brazilian wonderkid at the end of August. Corinthians told Chelsea to pay €25m (£21m) for Moscardo at the time – which would make it a record sale for the Brazilian giants – and talks between both sides continued. Now – however – Corinthians want to sell the teenager to Chelsea quickly, as they find themselves at risk of losing the South American wonderkid for just 80mR$ (£13m). Why? Well, Itatiaia explain how clubs in Brazil have access to Moscardo’s £13m release clause, and the largest sides in Série A are able to afford his £13m release clause. There is now a fear of one Brazilian club triggering his release clause, hence the reason why Corinthians want to finalise a deal with Chelsea as soon as possible. Corinthians are also keen to sell Moscardo to Chelsea as the Blues are willing to send him back on loan for the 2023/24 campaign. Edited September 6, 2023 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,277 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 (edited) ffs Chelsea failed to sign exciting player Antonio Nusa on deadline day after Ian Maatsen refused to leave Stamford Bridge https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/rumor-news-Chelsea-failed-sign-exciting-player-deadline-day-21-year-old-star-refused-leave-stamford-bridge-reports Chelsea reportedly failed to sign winger Antonio Nusa this summer as youngster Ian Maatsen refused to leave. As per Transfer Confidential by Mail, the Blues were interested in signing another young prospect this summer in Nusa. The Norwegian winger plies his trade for Club Brugge, whom he joined from Stabaek in 2021. He has since made 46 senior appearances for the Belgian side, scoring four goals and providing three assists. Nusa had interest from Chelsea on deadline day (September 1), but they wanted to part ways with Maatsen first. Journalist Miguel Delaney had confirmed that the Blues received a bid from Burnley, where he spent last season on loan. However, the 21-year-old declined the offer, as he wants to stay and develop at Stamford Bridge. Maatsen's departure would have helped the west London side in FFP in the long term and also allowed them to sign Nusa, but the Dutch left-back will now stay at the club. Maatsen joined Chelsea's academy from PSV Eindhoven's academy in 2018. He made his debut in their opening game of the ongoing season in the 1-1 home draw with Liverpool. The Dutchman has made substitute appearances in three of the Blues' Premier League fixtures this season. He also played the entire 90 minutes of their Carabao Cup second-round win over AFC Wimbledon. Edited September 6, 2023 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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