Mhsc 1,139 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said: Let's see how long Poch sticks with the 3 at the back combination. I see some heavy score lines coming up if he doesn't figure it out as Arsenal, Brentford, City, Brighton and United have the tools to score 3+ goals against us and Spurs under Ange look like they're on fire at the moment with so much energy. I don’t know how many more times I can say this but it is NOT 3 at the back, it is 4 at the back with Chilwell playing as a winger. A number of people including Poch and Silva have said this but also, just using your eyes during the game makes it obvious. Colwill has been playing as a leftback. Edited September 3, 2023 by Mhsc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Mhsc said: I don’t know how many more times I can say this but it is NOT 3 at the back, it is 4 at the back with Chilwell playing as a winger. A number of people including Poch and Silva have said this but also, just using your eyes during the game makes it obvious. Colwill has been playing as a leftback. Still playing with extra defenders , it’s embarrassing . Pick a proper lineup or get another job bigbluewillie and Reddish-Blue 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,139 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 1 hour ago, lucio said: Still playing with extra defenders , it’s embarrassing . Pick a proper lineup or get another job Yes I agree the personnel selection is poor, but I don't think the problem is the formation / system or that he's changed it. He's just been putting loads of square pegs in round holes which he didn't do in preseason, except for maybe Maatsen who he kept playing anywhere except for LB and Gallagher as a CM but we always thought that was because he didn't have options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,663 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Mhsc said: I don’t know how many more times I can say this but it is NOT 3 at the back, it is 4 at the back with Chilwell playing as a winger. A number of people including Poch and Silva have said this but also, just using your eyes during the game makes it obvious. Colwill has been playing as a leftback. And that's the biggest problem with the lineup. When has Colwill played "LB" during his young career? He's a ball playing CB, not a LB. No point in having 3 CB's on the pitch as well as a LB playing as a winger against the bottom sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,663 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mhsc said: Yes I agree the personnel selection is poor, but I don't think the problem is the formation / system or that he's changed it. He's just been putting loads of square pegs in round holes which he didn't do in preseason, except for maybe Maatsen who he kept playing anywhere except for LB and Gallagher as a CM but we always thought that was because he didn't have options. I would say the system is broken if you're having to rely on Gallagher to play deeper. Hopefully once Lavia is fit, Gallagher takes up the sub role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,204 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) The more you look at it the more obvious it becomes.. This club is a fucking mess. The transfer strategy is comical. All that money spent and look at our team. We are facing years of mediocrity now thanks to Bohely and the clowns with him. We should have spent all that money on 5/6 World class players liek Kavaratskhelia, Osimhen, Gvardiol ect and supplemented them with academy players. The guys we have purchased font seem better than the academy players we already had. Bizarre. Edited September 3, 2023 by DDA bigbluewillie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,475 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 48 minutes ago, DDA said: The more you look at it the more obvious it becomes.. This club is a fucking mess. The transfer strategy is comical. All that money spent and look at our team. We are facing years of mediocrity now thanks to Bohely and the clowns with him. We should have spent all that money on 5/6 World class players liek Kavaratskhelia, Osimhen, Gvardiol ect and supplemented them with academy players. The guys we have purchased font seem better than the academy players we already had. Bizarre. the board is destroying the club. how is it possible to spend so much and then see the players who came on for the game with nottm? they're betting too much on young players. it's like a real football manager's save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 42 minutes ago, Mário César said: the board is destroying the club. how is it possible to spend so much and then see the players who came on for the game with nottm? they're betting too much on young players. it's like a real football manager's save. injuries have fucked us as well Norfolkblue1961 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 On 02/09/2023 at 15:48, Mhsc said: Personally think we would have walked away from Caicedo when it became obvious it was only going to be for silly money if we had been in a position of strength already with Ugarte in. Could be wrong but honestly would be REALLY surprised. they are 2 very different type of players Ugarte is much more similar to Lavia than he is to Caicedo IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) just wanted to park this here (it is about the 25 and under cut-off age by the board for buys) bottom line the only actually available WC 26yo and up players who it cocked us on were: 3 who were 28 to 30 (Oblak, 30, Skriniar, 28, and possibly Maignan, 28) no 27 yos were affected (as none on my extensive list were actually available) and then six 26yos, with the 2 AMFs the most controversial (In terms of us passing on them simply for being months too old) for most here I would think (most of these were crazy hard pulls btw) Frenkie de Jong Central Midfield 26 (too similar to Enzo IMHO) Nicolò Barella Central Midfield 26 (we got Caicedo instead) Lucas Paquetá Attacking Midfield 26 James Maddison Attacking Midfield 26 Ousmane Dembélé Right Winger 26 (I know many here don't rate him) Lautaro Martínez Centre-Forward 26 (I know many here don't rate him, even more than posters who do not rate Dembele) the linked long reply eliminates all the rest btw (for various reasons, mostly because they WERE all under 26, and thus not blocked, or were pipe dreams, not available) Edited September 3, 2023 by Vesper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,139 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Vesper said: they are 2 very different type of players Ugarte is much more similar to Lavia than he is to Caicedo IMHO Yes but Enzo/Ugarte would have been a very good double pivot, I don’t think there’s any chance we spend 115m on an extra midfielder if that’s our starting point, it would be a completely nonsensical transfer if we were not in a state of total desperation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Mhsc said: Yes but Enzo/Ugarte would have been a very good double pivot, I don’t think there’s any chance we spend 115m on an extra midfielder if that’s our starting point, it would be a completely nonsensical transfer if we were not in a state of total desperation. I think once he settles, Caicedo will become WC, it just will take a bit, as he hardly had a preseason and it's chaos with us atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,660 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 buy sesko in january Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 Yeah throw money at our problems. Lets just keep doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,204 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 1 minute ago, MoroccanBlue said: Yeah throw money at our problems. Lets just keep doing that. Although I 100% agree its time to stop throwing money at problems... we do need to shell out for a proper striker at some point. It could change the whole feel of the club and boost every department on field and off field if we start converting our chances and win games. Norfolkblue1961 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,516 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 (edited) On 29/06/2023 at 02:22, NikkiCFC said: So if we draw the line today us and United are far away from top4. My opinion. This was back in June. It was clear. And if United didn't have refs help they would be even more down. 5 teams that are currently top5 will finish there. Three teams from London are best watch for me. They play best football. City will win title but is boring and Liverpool will finish top5 but are not good defensively. Now when you think about it we are not even top5 clubs in London forget the league lol Edited September 3, 2023 by NikkiCFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,584 Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 16 hours ago, Thor said: 21st of Oct to the 7th of Dec schedule... Arsenal, Brentford, Spurs, City, Newcastle, Brighton and Man United... Poch better figure it out lol... Most of those teams won't "park the bus" and by then some of our wrinkles should be ironed out.most of currently injured would have returned by then,Lavia should be out of fat club etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,761 Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 14 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: This was back in June. It was clear. And if United didn't have refs help they would be even more down. 5 teams that are currently top5 will finish there. Three teams from London are best watch for me. They play best football. City will win title but is boring and Liverpool will finish top5 but are not good defensively. Now when you think about it we are not even top5 clubs in London forget the league lol Long long season ahead I think the doom and gloom here will be lifted partially as Lavia and Palmer begin playing and Ben Chilwell is moved back to his defensive position. Even though we've dropped points, the performances have been okay to good so far. Enzo misses a pen vs West Ham which could have taken the game our way Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolkblue1961 56 Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 On 03/09/2023 at 09:09, Mhsc said: I don’t know how many more times I can say this but it is NOT 3 at the back, it is 4 at the back with Chilwell playing as a winger. A number of people including Poch and Silva have said this but also, just using your eyes during the game makes it obvious. Colwill has been playing as a leftback. It is shite.....no matter what you call it Blue Armour, Vesper and Mhsc 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 Ajax did the same thing with Spertsyan as we did with Zakharyan both turned down due to playing in Russia, so no go (and ironically both are of Armenian descent, not Russian) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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