chelsea_4_eva 1,186 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 If the only way to get rid of Lukaku is to swap him with Vlahovic plus a little bit of cash, I would do it. Just get rid of this cry baby. shrenshah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,516 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 I'm wondering why is Poch or club against going for Vlahovic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 33 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: I'm wondering why is Poch or club against going for Vlahovic. It may be a wait and see with Borja and Jackson, make a decision after pre season. Like i said Vlahovic biggest issue imo is fitness, he has struggled with muscle injury for most of his time at Juve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,761 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 hours ago, chelsea_4_eva said: If the only way to get rid of Lukaku is to swap him with Vlahovic plus a little bit of cash, I would do it. Just get rid of this cry baby. No stay patient and when he runs out of options, he’ll take Saudi mkh and enzoforever 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,722 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just hope all the media talk of us getting Neymar is just an inept PR exercise, rather than any substance to it. Absolute no from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 7 hours ago, Mário César said: thoughts? Never been a fan of Rice concept, but if all this ordeal was just for two tiktokers to reunite, than it's even better we've somehow managed to avoid it. Norfolkblue1961 and NikkiCFC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 3 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: I'm wondering why is Poch or club against going for Vlahovic. Gives me some Morata vibes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,250 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 41 minutes ago, Gundalf said: Gives me some Morata vibes. Yeah, I actually do think Morata is a great comparison. Strikers that have all the talent but don’t really apply it on the pitch consistently enough to be elite. Like Morata, when he’s in top form you think “wow, he’s amazing,” but then he can look like a donkey a lot of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,139 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Pizy said: Yeah, I actually do think Morata is a great comparison. Strikers that have all the talent but don’t really apply it on the pitch consistently enough to be elite. Like Morata, when he’s in top form you think “wow, he’s amazing,” but then he can look like a donkey a lot of the time. 1 hour ago, Gundalf said: Gives me some Morata vibes. 4 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: I'm wondering why is Poch or club against going for Vlahovic. Tbh, I think this is a result of the data-led approach to recruitment we are using. If you look at Vlahovic from a statistical PoV, he is pretty uninspiring, so you'd be betting on him improving a lot by good coaching. For example, here is him in his last full year at Fiorentina, where he was 'very hot' (top) vs Lukaku last season at Inter (middle) vs Lukaku at Inter in his hot year under Conte (bottom): You can cut the stats in loads of ways, but when normalised by per 90 mins played he really does not look like a player that you should be splurging huge money on. Add to that his injury problems and perceived mental weakness, and you probably don't want to make this guy your main striker if you're a top club, he should be your up and coming promising option who is a sub that you hope can develop into your main man. He should never have joined Juve and gone somewhere that plays football that suits him with a coach that develops young players and spent time there until he was in his mid 20s, when maybe he would grow into a player at Ivan Toney's level but probably not higher. For example a few year stint at a club like Brighton would probably have been amazing for this kid. Edited July 16, 2023 by Mhsc Reddish-Blue and Pizy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,663 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 45 minutes ago, Pizy said: Yeah, I actually do think Morata is a great comparison. Strikers that have all the talent but don’t really apply it on the pitch consistently enough to be elite. Like Morata, when he’s in top form you think “wow, he’s amazing,” but then he can look like a donkey a lot of the time. I don't think Morata has ever been amazing, he generally gets to about 15 goals a season (league + european football). As for Vlahovic, feel like the step up to Juventus was too soon for him, same as Jovic struggling after going from Frankfurt to Real Madrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,663 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 4 hours ago, Clockwork said: It may be a wait and see with Borja and Jackson, make a decision after pre season. Like i said Vlahovic biggest issue imo is fitness, he has struggled with muscle injury for most of his time at Juve. Sounds like another version of Pulisic....consistently picking up injuries for no reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,250 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 I guess the only thing you can say about Vlahovic if you’re trying to talk yourself into him is that perhaps he looks much better in a side that’s not coached by Allegri who Juve supporters were complaining about all season from what I saw. Not someone you want to spend 70m on but if the price were somehow reasonable there IS a player in there. mkh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,139 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Pizy said: I guess the only thing you can say about Vlahovic if you’re trying to talk yourself into him is that perhaps he looks much better in a side that’s not coached by Allegri who Juve supporters were complaining about all season from what I saw. Not someone you want to spend 70m on but if the price were somehow reasonable there IS a player in there. The only way I can talk myself into him is from the perspective that if it is the way to get Lukaku off the books in something close to a swap deal, with us not spending much money (<£20m?), we replace a player who's career has peaked with a player who is 3-4 years away from peaking, he would have resale value (surely always at least £40m, plus football-inflation) and give us a different profile of player to lots of our other players. He has a clear talent for finishing, and some potential in other areas. He is in my honest opinion clearly a bit worse than Lukaku (the slightly past it Lukaku of today), but if he was here as a rotation option / squad player it would be ok - it just only makes sense from a financial perspective of where to spend our money if it is part of getting rid of Lukaku. Also, if he would take acceptable wages, similar to whatever Nicolas Jackson is on. To get rid of this it surely has to be worth a punt on him: Edited July 16, 2023 by Mhsc Magic Lamps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolkblue1961 56 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 What are the chances that this fat deceitful waste of space does not turn up @ Cobham Monday morning ? enzoforever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,761 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Just now, Norfolkblue1961 said: What are the chances that this fat deceitful waste of space does not turn up @ Cobham Monday morning ? Turning up Tuesday after squad flies out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,722 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Dont want Vlahovic sounds awful, and can we get a bag of crisps for Lukaku ? Cheese and onion flavour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,942 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Please buy Lukaku now Fernando and Mhsc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,942 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 DH1988, Fernando and cfccrost 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,139 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: Please buy Lukaku now Guy will get chewed up and spit out by PSG in 1 year, if him going there facilitates us getting rid of Lukaku then I am happy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,475 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 I look forward to seeing what the club will do about the striker issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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