Chelsea Transfers

[Vesper 30,195]

5 hours ago, Milan said:

Not to mention that the likes of Barkley, Alonso, Emerson, Kenedy, Drinkwater are finally gone on permanent basis.

Bats too

 

[Vesper 30,195]

1 hour ago, nyikolajevics said:

https://twitter.com/ASSE_english/status/1565481675068432385?s=20&t=paccKCKYROapgvBafokTyQ

[Superblue 6,372]

5 hours ago, Special Juan said:

Not here to debate whether that was a good window or not but the spotlight now shines so heavy on TT and to start getting this team producing miles better results.

He's got 3 games IMO or he will be gone.

No chance he's got 3 games or he'll be gone.

The board have leaned so heavily on him to get them through this transfer window that they will give him time, I think so long as we don't completely fall off a cliff he'll be here until the end of the season. It's easy to say 'this isn't Roman' but ultimately we're in unchartered territory and have no idea what patience the new ownership will have. I understand from his interests in other sports teams that Boehly thinks highly of a settled structure and longevity in a project but on the flipside the pyramid and structure of English football is completely different and far more rewarding of success than American sports. I do think though for this season the only thing that would go against Tuchel is if the fans turn on him if things aren't going well and whilst there will always be murmurs of discontent with anyone, I think that stock for him is still high and he has the credit in the bank that someone like Sarri didn't have for example.

I probably wouldn't be currently as receptive as I might have been previously to handing him a long term deal for now though. That is something that can be revisited later in the season, hopefully just leaving him now to fully concentrate on the group he knows he now has for the very least to January will be a positive.

[Mac lean 10]

😍 boehly and Clearlake capital masterclass .Respect 🙏🏻

[King Kante 1,643]

11 minutes ago, Mac lean said:

😍 boehly and Clearlake capital masterclass .Respect 🙏🏻

Cannot say I would've gone about it the way they have, but they certainly put their money where their mouth is. 

[Vesper 30,195]

1 hour ago, Muzchap said:

I don't think Azpi should be booted out - but he definitely needs to be a backup option and not a regular in the team.

Whatever people think of him, he was a bargain and consistently puts in a 6/7 performance week in week out. He was never the fastest and now his legs have gone. 

Just hope TT gets a grip on the squad and doesn't lose the dressing room.

well, he cannot be booted now, but he should have been replaced

when it looked like we were for sure going to buy Gordon, I sorta comforted myself as the club was looking at him as not just a winger but a RWB too, a role I think he might be great in as a part timer. He does have mad pace, so imagine him coming on the pitch with 25, 30 minutes to go and running at all those tiring legs

plus there was my standard reply for a trad RB/RWB: Joakim Mæhle, who would have been FAR cheaper

[Vesper 30,195]

4 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Cannot say I would've gone about it the way they have, but they certainly put their money where their mouth is. 

I still have not fully digested the window

very complicated (of course, we are Chelsea, the most complicated big club on the planet, lol, with Manure trying their best to catch up)

I do demand that Tuchel show more IMAGINATION, lawd knows he has a tonne of options now to come up with something effective

look at what Graham Potter does, and he loses class players all the time, but finds workarounds

Edited September 2, 2022 by Vesper

[Superblue 6,372]

Ironically taking away add ons in some of the deals, I believe the club's net spend this summer was very, very close to that magical £200m number that was bandied around when the new ownership first come in. 

Given all the circumstances and playing catch up from the start, I think we've had a pretty good window overall.

[Vesper 30,195]

Martin Keown fears Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang’s return to the Premier League with Chelsea is a disaster for Arsenal.

https://metro.co.uk/2022/09/02/martin-keown-says-aubmeyang-transfer-is-a-disaster-for-arsenal-17289197/

 

Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink has backed Chelsea’s deadline-day move for Barcelona striker Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang and says the former Arsenal captain will be a ‘great signing’ for Thomas Tuchel.

https://metro.co.uk/2022/09/01/Chelsea-news-hasselbaink-rates-aubameyang-move-transfer-deadline-day-17283852/

[Jype 6,398]

1 hour ago, Reddish-Blue said:

Klopp also hasn't finished lower than 4th since the 15-16 season and he broke the Liverpool winning PL curse.  Most of their big signings like Alisson, Van Dijk have paid off. 

If Tuchel finishes outside top 4 this season with the amount of money spent, questions will definitely be raised.  The club has backed him with these signings, there's even rumors that the club wanted Ronaldo to spearhead the new ownership this season but Tuchel declined and was persistent in wanting Aubameyang...even though he was let go on a free by our local rivals. 

In his first season Klopp took over Liverpool after GW8 with the team in 10th place. They finished 8th, gaining 48 points in 30 matches. In the following season they barely made top4, finishing only one point ahead of Arsenal and also fourth again in 17/18 with the exact same points total. They also struggled badly in 20/21, even though they just about made top4 in the end.  Would they have sacked him if they finished a couple points worse off in some of those seasons? I don't think so.

Klopp's a wonderful manager but this idea it's always been smooth sailing for him is simply not true. Especially early on there were times where they struggled just as much if not more than Tuchel has at certain points but they stuck by him and let him build up his squad in peace.

Tuchel's league form leaves a lot to be desired but in cup competitions he's worked wonders and for my money has earned himself a lot of good will in the bank. The window's just over and he's got in good players that he personally wished for but now the hard work begins. If we start falling down the table like we did under Lampard he'll eventually find himself in a position where he's under pressure to start delivering but for many reasons the start of the season (and the second half of last season) hasn't been easy. Some key injuries in midfield and some important signings being left so late in the window has definitely affected our league start but of course he can't keep riding on that excuse forever and things have to improve.

Last season Tuchel didn't yet have many of his 'own' players in the team but I'm definitely willing to give him a chance to build something of his own at the club and then see how it goes. This transfer window was a very good start going in that direction: he got in a couple of quality CBs of his own choosing, a new wing-back option, an upgrade over Werner and a striker he'll very likely prefer to Lukaku who I don't think was ever his top pick. There are still some issues to be resolved, especially the long-term midfield replacements for Kante, Jorginho as well as getting rid of Pulisic and Ziyech so a lot of work to be done but as long as we start seeing some developments in the play I'm more than willing to give Tuchel as long as he needs to complete the squad and hopefully then start competing for the EPL title. This season we just need to aim for a top-4 finish, a couple of decent cup runs and then go all-in for next season.

[Vesper 30,195]

let's all hope none of the signings end up like (another cursed Number 9, eeek)

Edited September 2, 2022 by Vesper

[Pizy 18,928]

14 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Ironically taking away add ons in some of the deals, I believe the club's net spend this summer was very, very close to that magical £200m number that was bandied around when the new ownership first come in. 

Given all the circumstances and playing catch up from the start, I think we've had a pretty good window overall.

I actually think the number that was rumored/reported that Boehly was willing to go to was £300m. And I fully believe that we would’ve done so if we had more time. That period early in the window where there were weeks of no movement probably cost us another high profile wide attacker.

Regardless, we’ve done extremely well. And I wouldn’t even rule out a busy January depending on how things go.

[Vesper 30,195]

Romano email:

Memphis Depay announced he was staying with the club despite having the option to terminate his contract. He was heavily linked with Chelsea but a move was never close.

[Vesper 30,195]

lol, I so missed this one

he's baaaaaaaaaaaaack

‘Done deal completed’ – Fabrizio Romano confirms Fulham transfer as two-time Premier League winner signs contract

https://www.caughtoffside.com/2022/09/01/romano-confirms-willian-fulham-transfer/

[Blues Forever 1,232]

11 minutes ago, Pizy said:

I actually think the number that was rumored/reported that Boehly was willing to go to was £300m. And I fully believe that we would’ve done so if we had more time. That period early in the window where there were weeks of no movement probably cost us another high profile wide attacker.

Regardless, we’ve done extremely well. And I wouldn’t even rule out a busy January depending on how things go.

Already cost us Gabriel Jesus.

[Mário César 1,278]

to challeng for the title we need one more world class winger and a world class midfielder

lets see how this season goes but tbh I prefer go out in League Cup to focus in top4

[blahblahblah 73]

59 minutes ago, Jype said:

In his first season Klopp took over Liverpool after GW8 with the team in 10th place. They finished 8th, gaining 48 points in 30 matches. In the following season they barely made top4, finishing only one point ahead of Arsenal and also fourth again in 17/18 with the exact same points total. They also struggled badly in 20/21, even though they just about made top4 in the end.  Would they have sacked him if they finished a couple points worse off in some of those seasons? I don't think so.

Klopp's a wonderful manager but this idea it's always been smooth sailing for him is simply not true. Especially early on there were times where they struggled just as much if not more than Tuchel has at certain points but they stuck by him and let him build up his squad in peace.

Tuchel's league form leaves a lot to be desired but in cup competitions he's worked wonders and for my money has earned himself a lot of good will in the bank. The window's just over and he's got in good players that he personally wished for but now the hard work begins. If we start falling down the table like we did under Lampard he'll eventually find himself in a position where he's under pressure to start delivering but for many reasons the start of the season (and the second half of last season) hasn't been easy. Some key injuries in midfield and some important signings being left so late in the window has definitely affected our league start but of course he can't keep riding on that excuse forever and things have to improve.

Last season Tuchel didn't yet have many of his 'own' players in the team but I'm definitely willing to give him a chance to build something of his own at the club and then see how it goes. This transfer window was a very good start going in that direction: he got in a couple of quality CBs of his own choosing, a new wing-back option, an upgrade over Werner and a striker he'll very likely prefer to Lukaku who I don't think was ever his top pick. There are still some issues to be resolved, especially the long-term midfield replacements for Kante, Jorginho as well as getting rid of Pulisic and Ziyech so a lot of work to be done but as long as we start seeing some developments in the play I'm more than willing to give Tuchel as long as he needs to complete the squad and hopefully then start competing for the EPL title. This season we just need to aim for a top-4 finish, a couple of decent cup runs and then go all-in for next season.

All of the comparision with klopp's initial years at Liverpool with TT's 1.5 years here would be valid if they both inherited a similar squad and talent level. Also, if they both had the same investments in their initial years. 

Klopp did not inherit a squad that was a shoe in for top4. That was a shit squad full of morenos and borinis of the world. 

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23 minutes ago, Mário César said:

to challeng for the title we need one more world class winger and a world class midfielder

lets see how this season goes but tbh I prefer go out in League Cup to focus in top4

And a half decent manager

[milka 3,393]

[Superblue 6,372]

Not sure how true or accurate but just saw a tweet suggesting that Chelsea have reduced their wage bill this summer by around £36m per annum with the incomings and outgoings at the club.

If it is indeed anything close to a figure like that, I think that's another significant positive this summer. For too long we've allowed players to stay at the club and each summer had to expend far too much energy finding solutions for these players. A lot of them have now been moved on permanently and hands wiped clean of them. The loan system will still be hugely important for the club but it should be for creating pathways for young talent to either develop to play for Chelsea or develop to be sold elsewhere for a good fee.