DDA 9,983 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Just now, Blues11 said: Wouldn't be surprised if agents are swaying certain attacking players not to come here. I'm sure players like Lukaku, Ziyech, and Werner don't think very highly of TT's tactics and word can travel. All three players have their flaws but it also doesn't look great when each one was class before coming here. Don't think there's much of a belief Tuchel can elevate an attacking player. Raphina was worried he might have to play wingback and that's probably one of the reasons why he doesn't want to be here. If he did he would already be ours so I think that's somewhat telling. Seems like we'll have to overpay and give up some hefty wages to secure some signings but we need them. De Jong, Sterling, and MDL would be a great summer of business. But Ziyech was good in a very well drilled Ajax team but even then their fans said he looses the ball way to often and can go missing in large parts of the season. Similar to what we saw from him. Werner was flourishing in what can only be called a Sunday pub league with enough space in defences to host Glastonbury each week. Lukaku.. Well does anything need to be said.. the donkey flopped at United way before leaving to bang goals in an Italian league which even makes Tammy Abraham look class. All has to be viewed thought the factual lense and if we're honest they were terrible buys looking back on it . We brought these players in to elevate us to the next level when in truth none of then were fit enough to do so. I agree with you on the later though, FDJ, Sterling and MDL would be a great summer. FDJ would fit in lovely but the rumours of us going in for him aren't strong enough unfortunately. Boycie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,887 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: Really is not a good look for Boehly if this transfer window ends with Ake over De Ligt, Skriniar, or Koulibaly. Not a good look at all. Considering the Ake move, like the majority of the others this window with substance, are being driven more by Tuchel (talk he is a fan and wanted him at Dortmund), I would say any criticism should be pointed more to the manager himself than Boehly, seeing as he is getting the definitive final say. Maybe it is not a good look for Boehly but if its Ake TT wants then what can he do? I mean people moaned that we don’t/didn’t back managers, now we are linked with a player TT reportedly wants (I don’t think he’s good enough either as a starter) its a bad look? Edited July 6, 2022 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues11 213 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, DDA said: But Ziyech was good in a very well drilled Ajax team but even then their fans said he looses the ball way to often and can go missing in large parts of the season. Similar to what we saw from him. Werner was flourishing in what can only be called a Sunday pub league with enough space in defences to host Glastonbury each week. Lukaku.. Well does anything need to be said.. the donkey flopped at United way before leaving to bang goals in an Italian league which even makes Tammy Abraham look class. All has to be viewed thought the factual lense and if we're honest they were terrible buys looking back on it . We brought these players in to elevate us to the next level when in truth none of then were fit enough to do so. I agree with you on the later though, FDJ, Sterling and MDL would be a great summer. FDJ would fit in lovely but the rumours of us going in for him aren't strong enough unfortunately. I agree with a lot of your reasonings on why those players have failed at Chelsea. I didn't like the Lukaku signing one bit like most of us. He failed in big moments playing in the Prem in the past so why would you sign him for an outrageous fee? For me last season it was Haaland or be patient but they wanted to make a big signing off the Champions league win and it really backfired... When Lukaku did his interview that got him in the doghouse, I kind of believed him when he was told by Tuchel we would play a certain way and ended up playing the same formation week in and week out. I still think certain attacking players and agents are wary of Tuchel. He doesn't take enough accountability when we fail and we struggled against bottom table teams too often. No adjustments or tinkering was done, basically just swapping out the front three every week was his "solution". Boehly will be looked to if we fail to secure impact signings but he's stated he's given Tuchel money to spend and it's also TT's job to give perspective players belief in Chelsea. FDJ would flourish in this system...maybe we can sell him the champions league or something. Lol bigbluewillie and Stats 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,983 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 16 minutes ago, Blues11 said: I agree with a lot of your reasonings on why those players have failed at Chelsea. I didn't like the Lukaku signing one bit like most of us. He failed in big moments playing in the Prem in the past so why would you sign him for an outrageous fee? For me last season it was Haaland or be patient but they wanted to make a big signing off the Champions league win and it really backfired... When Lukaku did his interview that got him in the doghouse, I kind of believed him when he was told by Tuchel we would play a certain way and ended up playing the same formation week in and week out. I still think certain attacking players and agents are wary of Tuchel. He doesn't take enough accountability when we fail and we struggled against bottom table teams too often. No adjustments or tinkering was done, basically just swapping out the front three every week was his "solution". Boehly will be looked to if we fail to secure impact signings but he's stated he's given Tuchel money to spend and it's also TT's job to give perspective players belief in Chelsea. FDJ would flourish in this system...maybe we can sell him the champions league or something. Lol Have to admit you are right, TT was doing some strange things with his attacking options.. the constant changing of the front 3 was extremely detrimental to our attacking overall. I think it was because he just didn't trust any of them to do their job properly and their inconsistencies ultimately led TT down a path of indecisiveness. I think eventually we should switch back to a 433 to see better results in attack but it's not going to be easy when we have two wingback who when playing together and in form can devastate in their roles. Blues11 and Stats 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,527 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 43 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Considering the Ake move, like the majority of the others this window with substance, are being driven more by Tuchel (talk he is a fan and wanted him at Dortmund), I would say any criticism should be pointed more to the manager himself than Boehly, seeing as he is getting the definitive final say. Maybe it is not a good look for Boehly but if its Ake TT wants then what can he do? I mean people moaned that we don’t/didn’t back managers, now we are linked with a player TT reportedly wants (I don’t think he’s good enough either as a starter) its a bad look? Regarding Ake - the left-footedness is a big factor. Who else is left-footed, quality and available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,527 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Reg: Raphinha, Romano insisting there's no update. Chelsea £60m bid accepted. Barca bid was £42.9m +8m addons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 15 minutes ago, Strike said: Regarding Ake - the left-footedness is a big factor. Who else is left-footed, quality and available? Badiashile, Ndicka, Martinez, Torres, Kimpembe, and maybe Gvardiol (have to pay premium to make Leipzig sell this window). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: Badiashile, Ndicka, Martinez, Torres, Kimpembe, and maybe Gvardiol (have to pay premium to make Leipzig sell this window). Then why ain't we after Badiashile? He is gonna be a cracking defender... Edited July 6, 2022 by Alabama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, Alabama said: Then why ain't we after Badiashile? He is gonna be a cracking defender... Apparently because we want a PL proven CB........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: Apparently because we want a PL proven CB........ That's bullshit....Nathan Ake is gonna be the most underwhelming transfer have ever seen Chelsea do...I hope De Ligt/Kounde get signed before this Ake bullshit... bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Alabama said: That's bullshit....Nathan Ake is gonna be the most underwhelming transfer have ever seen Chelsea do...I hope De Ligt/Kounde get signed before this Ake bullshit... It's either De Ligt or Kounde, not both because they are right-footed. Edited July 6, 2022 by Blues Forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,295 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 48 minutes ago, Alabama said: That's bullshit....Nathan Ake is gonna be the most underwhelming transfer have ever seen Chelsea do...I hope De Ligt/Kounde get signed before this Ake bullshit... Take ake over kounde all day long. Think there is more a stigma with ake because he's already been and gone from here. My concern is more silva and de ligt in the same back 3 not a very pacey back line. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, Kong said: Take ake over kounde all day long. Think there is more a stigma with ake because he's already been and gone from here. My concern is more silva and de ligt in the same back 3 not a very pacey back line. . Ake over Kounde? Are you for real? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,578 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 🚨🚨| FC Barcelona have reached an agreement with Jules Koundé & the talks with Sevilla are getting advanced as well. @gerardromero [🎖️] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,295 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, Alabama said: Ake over Kounde? Are you for real? Yes I am real. I've seen nothing off kounde that warrants him coming here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,187 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 De ligt is off to Bayern. Raphinha would rather go back to Leeds than come here. Still no signings Absolute mess Boycie and nachikethas 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,527 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Blues Forever said: Badiashile, Ndicka, Martinez, Torres, Kimpembe, and maybe Gvardiol (have to pay premium to make Leipzig sell this window). Everyone except Kimpembe and Gvardiol are in the same bracket as Ake who has experience in this league. Tuchel loves Kimpembe but no guarantee PSG would sell. Few rumours that Gvardiol signed new contract with release clause from 2023. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Atleast no Marina to blame anymore... didi007 and Clockwork 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,351 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 39 minutes ago, Special Juan said: De ligt is off to Bayern. Raphinha would rather go back to Leeds than come here. Still no signings Absolute mess Be surprised if there are any to be honest - its all about getting a large dividend return for the consortium first. Dont want to be wasting it on pesky things like players Boycie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,327 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Juventus want £75M (€87M) for De Ligt. Chelsea aim to beat Bayern Munich to the signing. (@thetimes) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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