Chelsea Transfers

[Vesper 31,104]

4 hours ago, Duppy Conqueror said:

What are you,Goldilocks' alice band?

the 'after hours, I am alone in my room' one

[ulvhedin 526]

6 hours ago, Vesper said:

because Kudus is going to Brighton

I have no problem with Olise as the RWer to share minutes with Noni

but Kidis is a better athlete, a better scorer, a better presser and can play any position up front, AMF, RW, LW (the place he would play the least), SS, and CF

IF we had purchased Kudus

then my final buys

would have been (and this is also predicated on selling Sterling to KSA, CuCu to KSA, Gallagher to whoever will pay £45-50m,  Trevoh to whoever will pay £25 to 35m so, and also sell CHO, ad Malang Sarr, total intake for all of those combined at least £150 to maybe even £170m):

then I would have bought

Caicedo (£90m) can play DMF and CMF

Kudus (£34m) can play anywhere up front

Mohamed Simakan  (£30m) solid, athletic, CB and also a very good RB

swap deal with Juve (Rom plus £25m for Vlahovic)

total gross spend for those four (£184m)

net spend £14m to £34m, depending on how much we get for the sales I listed

add in £20m negative wobble  just to be conservative

and you have £34 to £54m net spend for a worst case scenario

lower wages and 4 vital, (with 3 of them versatile AF) players

You play too much FM/FIFA. Why would we need Simakan after Disasi transfer?

[Gundalf 806]

Moises on strike?

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Even Fabrizio is fed up with this 🤣

 

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[Pizy 19,280]

I don’t think I can bare another entire week of “Chelsea is preparing another bid” or “Caicedo really wants Chelsea” tweets and reports.

Gonna lose my mind if we don’t see some serious action tomorrow or Tuesday. Can’t leave this too late in the week for him to feature at the weekend.

Laying down a marker against an elite side on our home pitch would be massive for the confidence of the club. Most people are already overlooking Chelsea because of last season and are predicting us to struggle again. Going out on the opening weekend and smacking Liverpool would force people to take us seriously.

But I can’t see us doing it with Gallagher in there when we’re also likely without Nkunku. Liverpool’s front 4 will shred our midfield.

[Reddish-Blue 2,674]

50 minutes ago, Pizy said:

I don’t think I can bare another entire week of “Chelsea is preparing another bid” or “Caicedo really wants Chelsea” tweets and reports.

Gonna lose my mind if we don’t see some serious action tomorrow or Tuesday. Can’t leave this too late in the week for him to feature at the weekend.

Laying down a marker against an elite side on our home pitch would be massive for the confidence of the club. Most people are already overlooking Chelsea because of last season and are predicting us to struggle again. Going out on the opening weekend and smacking Liverpool would force people to take us seriously.

But I can’t see us doing it with Gallagher in there when we’re also likely without Nkunku. Liverpool’s front 4 will shred our midfield.

You would think it would be this week or the transfer is completely off...  I don't see why Brighton would sell him once the season starts. 

[Pizy 19,280]

10 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said:

You would think it would be this week or the transfer is completely off...  I don't see why Brighton would sell him once the season starts. 

They’d sell him after the season starts if we lose our first couple of matches, get desperate, and offer the same thing Arse paid for Rice.

[Vesper 31,104]

1 hour ago, ulvhedin said:

You play too much FM/FIFA. Why would we need Simakan after Disasi transfer?

number one

I have never played either FM or FIFA

ever

that weak slag off doesn't apply to me at all

number two

read my post

 we HAD both a 'healthy' Fofona AND he still HAVE Trevoh

now we HAVE a badly damaged Fofona, out a LONG time, and likely perma wrecked IMHO, thus the Axel Disasi  buy

and so IF we sell Trevoh, I would replace him with Simakan

all four mentioned are righted footed CBs so it is not chalk and cheese (buying a left footer would be, as we have Badi (injured atm) and Colwill)

Thiago is 39yo in 6 weeks and simply cannot play every game, and he also is almost certainly leaving in 9 and half months (so good to have an already acclimated replacement)

and Simakan is also a pretty decent FB option IF we get smacked with injuries there

and also he has played as a Left CB as well

if we do sell Trevoh, the only actually healthy right footed CBs we would have would be new boy Disasi and a very soon 39yo Thiago

 

[Vesper 31,104]

4 hours ago, Pizy said:

Will we pull an Arse or Liverpool and ever so slightly increase our bid to like £82m or will we actually push this over the line and offer something they’ll actually accept? Because if we fail with another bid this saga should end right there.

I think it will be £80m plus £10m in add-ons, maybe, maybe £15m in add-ons (or 85m fee + 10m), which I would not do, but it ain't my dosh

[Vesper 31,104]

4 hours ago, LegenTerry said:

Can’t see us shifting Sterling and Cucu to anyone this transfer window.

[Strike 7,790]

17 minutes ago, Vesper said:

number one

I have never played either FM or FIFA

ever

that weak slag off doesn't apply to me at all

number two

read my post

 we HAD both a 'healthy' Fofona AND he still HAVE Trevoh

now we HAVE a badly damaged Fofona, out a LONG time, and likely perma wrecked IMHO, thus the Axel Disasi  buy

and so IF we sell Trevoh, I would replace him with Simakan

all four mentioned are righted footed CBs so it is not chalk and cheese (buying a left footer would be, as we have Badi (injured atm) and Colwill)

Thiago is 39yo in 6 weeks and simply cannot play every game, and he also is almost certainly leaving in 9 and half months (so good to have an already acclimated replacement)

and Simakan is also a pretty decent FB option IF we get smacked with injuries there

and also he has played as a Left CB as well

if we do sell Trevoh, the only actually healthy right footed CBs we would have would be new boy Disasi and a very soon 39yo Thiago

 

Overkill at this point. 4 CBs is plenty for a season without Europe 

[Pizy 19,280]

In addition to the Caicedo saga rumbling on, we haven’t heard anything about Ziyech or CHO in a while. Ziyech feels like he fell off the face of the earth after his Saudi move collapsed weeks ago. CHO situation should be pretty easy to resolve this week.

Also, wonder when the Chalobah stuff heats up again. Surely he’s gotta go now but there’s been zero indication that any club is prepared to meet our asking price.

[Vesper 31,104]

22 minutes ago, Strike said:

Overkill at this point. 4 CBs is plenty for a season without Europe 

then there is zero barrier to selling Trevoh following that logic

as we would have 4 then (Colwill, Badi, Axel, Thiago) plus the wrecked atm Fofana

[Vesper 31,104]

6 hours ago, whats happening said:

 

we should try and sign this guy.

He had an INSANE 2010/11 season with Porto (who had prime Radamel Falcao too, as well as prime João Moutinho, Rolando (solid CB who almost won the Europa League again 7 years later with Marseilles, they lost the final), Nicolás Otamendi, Fernando (went to Citeh later, he won 20 trophies over his entire career), Raúl Meireles (who we bought from Pool, because Essien was injured and we failed on Luka Modric, grrrrr), and a young James Rodriguez)

He won a Quad (won the Portuguese Super Cup, plus won the League title by 21 points in a 30 game season, plus won the Taça de Portugal - the main domestic cup, and then he won the Europa League, and almost had a Quintuple as they reached the quarters of the Taça de Liga, the Portuguese league cup, but got upset by C.D. Nacional)

his stats were madness (and only had a 30 game (and only played in 26 bit still produced 39 total goals) league season to play in, or might have had 75 total goals produced)

he ended on

62 total goals produced

35 goals and 27 assists

Edited August 7, 2023 by Vesper

[Vesper 31,104]

lololol

Willian agrees terms with Al-Shabab two weeks after signing Fulham extension

• Winger has told manager Marco Silva of intention to leave
• Brazilian’s departure comes after a single season at Fulham

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/aug/03/willian-agrees-terms-with-al-shabab-two-weeks-after-signing-fulham-extension

 

 

crazy, he is only 34 and is already closing in on 800 topflight games played for club and country

closing in on 1,000 if you count youth footie and friendlies

Edited August 7, 2023 by Vesper

[ulvhedin 526]

7 hours ago, Vesper said:

number one

I have never played either FM or FIFA

ever

that weak slag off doesn't apply to me at all

number two

read my post

 we HAD both a 'healthy' Fofona AND he still HAVE Trevoh

now we HAVE a badly damaged Fofona, out a LONG time, and likely perma wrecked IMHO, thus the Axel Disasi  buy

and so IF we sell Trevoh, I would replace him with Simakan

all four mentioned are righted footed CBs so it is not chalk and cheese (buying a left footer would be, as we have Badi (injured atm) and Colwill)

Thiago is 39yo in 6 weeks and simply cannot play every game, and he also is almost certainly leaving in 9 and half months (so good to have an already acclimated replacement)

and Simakan is also a pretty decent FB option IF we get smacked with injuries there

and also he has played as a Left CB as well

if we do sell Trevoh, the only actually healthy right footed CBs we would have would be new boy Disasi and a very soon 39yo Thiago

 

we don't have european football, 5 cbs (even without Chalobah, Cucu and considering Fofana is out for season) is overkill. Even Poch said he doesn't want squad to be too bloated.

[Jype 6,398]

Why are we talking about potential new CBs?

Colwill, Badiashile, Silva, Disasi (+ Fofana) is more than fine for the season. Anything less would leave us seriously understaffed at CB considering Fofana's long term injury, but anything more will make it bloated. So yeah, Chalobah out and nobody else in. Fofana can basically be considered out for the season, if he ends up playing some games towards the end of the season then great but we shouldn't be counting on that.

Next year Silva will surely be gone (which is what I've been saying since 2020 but it has to happen eventually) so we'll have to see what happens with Fofana's knees before deciding if something needs to happen or if Wes can just take Silva's place and we continue with Colwill, BB, Fofana, Disasi as our CBs. Maybe if there's some worries over Fofana we could see where Humphreys is at with his development and maybe keep him around for the 24/25 season.

Edited August 7, 2023 by Jype

[ulvhedin 526]

12 minutes ago, Jype said:

Why are we talking about potential new CBs?

Colwill, Badiashile, Silva, Disasi (+ Fofana) is more than fine for the season. Anything less would leave us seriously understaffed at CB considering Fofana's long term injury, but anything more will make it bloated. So yeah, Chalobah out and nobody else in. Fofana can basically be considered out for the season, if he ends up playing some games towards the end of the season then great but we shouldn't be counting on that.

Next year Silva will surely be gone (which is what I've been saying since 2020 but it has to happen eventually) so we'll have to see what happens with Fofana's knees before deciding if something needs to happen or if Wes can just take Silva's place and we continue with Colwill, BB, Fofana, Disasi as our CBs. Maybe if there's some worries over Fofana we could see where Humphreys is at with his development and maybe keep him around for the 24/25 season.

Yeah, completely agree. Also Alfie Gilchrist is staying so if a disaster happens he will be able to cover.

[Reddish-Blue 2,674]

31 minutes ago, Jype said:

Why are we talking about potential new CBs?

Colwill, Badiashile, Silva, Disasi (+ Fofana) is more than fine for the season. Anything less would leave us seriously understaffed at CB considering Fofana's long term injury, but anything more will make it bloated. So yeah, Chalobah out and nobody else in. Fofana can basically be considered out for the season, if he ends up playing some games towards the end of the season then great but we shouldn't be counting on that.

Next year Silva will surely be gone (which is what I've been saying since 2020 but it has to happen eventually) so we'll have to see what happens with Fofana's knees before deciding if something needs to happen or if Wes can just take Silva's place and we continue with Colwill, BB, Fofana, Disasi as our CBs. Maybe if there's some worries over Fofana we could see where Humphreys is at with his development and maybe keep him around for the 24/25 season.

Doesn't Humphreys contract expire before then?   Hopefully he signs the contract extension and then we get him a solid loan this season.  Looked like a decent young CB during pre-season.