ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 50 seems to be the hot number in 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 https://www.givemesport.com/liverpool-transfer-news-cheikh-doucoure-anfield/ they are also looking at him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 so now it appears we see Olise as more of a RWer than an AMF a straight Ziyech replacement I am still very wary of that bad hamstring tear and also Kudus can play RW too Kudus just seems more of an explosive athlete, plus scores more goals most games (including the WC) I watched him he looked a true threat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Send Ziyech back and fetch Kudus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,539 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Kudus just makes too much sense when Poch wants a small squad.he'd either start at RW/RAM or be a great Sub option that covers 4 positions. 20m +Ziyech seems a good offer to atleast start with. Olise for me is potentially great but only really out wide and the gammy hammy is a concern (though Giggs had those issues early on and ended up playing for 20 years) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Vesper said: doubt what part? About Tchou coming for less than 100m, because Real needs money for Mbappe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,097 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Liverpool put in £37m for Lavia apparently. Probably a sensible valuation, but the world isn't sensible anymore. Hard to imagine what will become of transfer fees and wages with the growing influence of Qatar + Saudi. Perhaps splurging on players and putting them on long contracts now at today's rates will look like a bargain in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mhsc said: Liverpool put in £37m for Lavia apparently. Probably a sensible valuation, but the world isn't sensible anymore. Hard to imagine what will become of transfer fees and wages with the growing influence of Qatar + Saudi. Perhaps splurging on players and putting them on long contracts now at today's rates will look like a bargain in the future. Good that we are rather save with that. We have a lot of young players on long contracts. We done our business to fight hyperinflation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,097 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Vesper said: so now it appears we see Olise as more of a RWer than an AMF a straight Ziyech replacement I am still very wary of that bad hamstring tear and also Kudus can play RW too Kudus just seems more of an explosive athlete, plus scores more goals most games (including the WC) I watched him he looked a true threat Fmpov Kudus > Olise > Cherki. I am beginning to think Kudus is a more important target than Caicedo because we need goals more than we need Caicedo IMO, an athletic, boundless-energy, ball winning DM partnering Enzo is what we need and Caicedo would be the perfect option but there are others that would be more than enough to get us top 4 IMO, but we are still potentially light on goals which Kudus can fix (Jackson, Mudryk, Nkunku and Kudus if you imagine they fulfil their potential then it is not just top 4 but title contention for years). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ulvhedin said: About Tchou coming for less than 100m, because Real needs money for Mbappe of course they need the money they are subject to FFP just like everyone else, and Mbappe's total cost for Real will likely be (for 5 years) well over €300m (easily could be much more, if he is paid anything near Messi money it's over €400m) if they have to pay a monster transfer fee now those numbers are conservative compared to the Saudi offer (€300m transfer fee and €200m per year salary, IF it was for 2 years, they said they will pay him a €100m signing bonus, so total 2 years cost of €800m, €1 billion if 3 years, which is drop in the bucket for them as they have what is likely closing in on to 2 TRILLION usd backstopping them) Real have other needs as well and are also going to (I have always said Håland ends up at Real) go for Håland in summer 2024 (perhaps) or summer 2025 (very likely) Edited July 25, 2023 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 30 minutes ago, Mhsc said: Fmpov Kudus > Olise > Cherki. I am beginning to think Kudus is a more important target than Caicedo because we need goals more than we need Caicedo IMO, an athletic, boundless-energy, ball winning DM partnering Enzo is what we need and Caicedo would be the perfect option but there are others that would be more than enough to get us top 4 IMO, but we are still potentially light on goals which Kudus can fix (Jackson, Mudryk, Nkunku and Kudus if you imagine they fulfil their potential then it is not just top 4 but title contention for years). No way. Caicedo completes are midfield. Santos and Casadei as cover brings that injection of quality as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Even if you get Caicedo that is not enough . For 6 months you sell 6 midfielders and eventually Gallagher too . In addition to Caicedo, you will need at least 1 more elite DM if you want to competitive anyone . If you don't want to, you will play with Santos and Casadei, who are talented players, but you can't oppose KDB , Fernandes , Guimaraes , Odeegard with them . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, milka said: Even if you get Caicedo that is not enough . For 6 months you sell 6 midfielders and eventually Gallagher too . In addition to Caicedo, you will need at least 1 more elite DM if you want to competitive anyone . If you don't want to, you will play with Santos and Casadei, who are talented players, but you can't oppose KDB , Fernandes , Guimaraes , Odeegard with them . Are you not a Chelsea fan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,327 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Funny and ironic this talk from our fans how we need experienced players yet they couldn't wait to get rid of Mendy, KK, Auba, Azpi, Jorginho etc... And now first one they would sell are Sterling, Kepa, Lukaku, Ziyech... Strike 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: they would sell are Sterling, Kepa, Lukaku, Ziyech... not seeing calls to sell Kepa, just calls for a better keeper to make Kepa the backup as for the other 3 they are all mega busts £260m in transfer fees for the 4 plus crazy salaries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 30 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Funny and ironic this talk from our fans how we need experienced players yet they couldn't wait to get rid of Mendy, KK, Auba, Azpi, Jorginho etc... And now first one they would sell are Sterling, Kepa, Lukaku, Ziyech... being old isn’t a benefit in of itself. What valuable experience does lukaku bring ? Track record of failure Vesper, Strike, Reddish-Blue and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,327 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 19 minutes ago, Vesper said: not seeing calls to sell Kepa, just calls for a better keeper to make Kepa the backup as for the other 3 they are all mega busts £260m in transfer fees for the 4 plus crazy salaries 5 minutes ago, lucio said: being old isn’t a benefit in of itself. What valuable experience does lukaku bring ? Track record of failure I agree they all should go, but I'm not the one saying we need experienced players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,466 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 We don't need any experience, we need quality players that's it. bigbluewillie and mkh 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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