Tomo 21,751 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 32 minutes ago, Pizy said: Ourselves and Liverpool both entered the window needing complete midfield rebuilds. They’re on the verge of signing their THIRD one whilst we haven’t signed any. Brilliant… There's nothing to suggest Liverpool are any closer to a breakthrough with Lavia than we are Caicedo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,483 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 you think we should buy how many midfielders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, Tomo said: City want Gvardiol, are no where near getting him. United want Hojlund, are nowhere near getting him. Liverpool want Lavia, likewise. And I won't even get into Spurs. I meant specifically in midfield. -Liverpool moved for Mac Allister super quickly having already laid the groundwork for him before the window opened just like what we did with Caicedo. They also went from linked with Szoboslai to having him holding up a Liverpool shirt within days. -City identified Kova as the Gündogan replacement and signed him super early. -Arse had Rice identified months ago as their top target (like we did with Caicedo) and have got him in on time to play a full preseason to gel with his new teammates. Signed Havertz early as well. -United got their top midfield target Mount in early to play a full preseason. Perhaps with the exception of Liverpool, we needed a midfield overhaul more than any of those clubs and we haven’t done anything. Stats 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,146 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, Pizy said: There’s a reason the likes of Caicedo, Rice, and Lavia have had every big club super keen to sign them whilst nobody is seriously after Onana. He’s not a top player. I’d be extremely let down if we had to settle for him. He’s physically impressive and a nice player but he doesn’t take our team up a level, imo. Caicedo would make our midfield world class. As would Barella. We need someone awesome not someone merely okay. Onana would absolutely lift our team levels, because he is a serious premier league quality DM who fills a hole for us. I do not think we should subsequently NOT sign Caicedo, if it can be done for sensible money. But Onana would bring something totally different to our midfield that we need, is affordable and versatile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,483 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Mhsc said: Onana would absolutely lift our team levels, because he is a serious premier league quality DM who fills a hole for us. I do not think we should subsequently NOT sign Caicedo, if it can be done for sensible money. But Onana would bring something totally different to our midfield that we need, is affordable and versatile. with a season without ucl its really necessary buy another midfielder besides caicedo or something else? we already have a lot of talent in midfielder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,146 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mário César said: with a season without ucl its really necessary buy another midfielder besides caicedo or something else? we already have a lot of talent in midfielder We have sold a lot of it though, and Gallagher out next. Personally I think several of the kids need good loans (Chuk, Hall, Casadei) and Santos is the one who looks ready to perhaps stay with the squad. That gives us Enzo and Santos currently, and some youth that might break in if they do well on loan at a top flight club - but next year. And some possibilities for people like Reese to play there too. Personally I’d like to add some height, power and pace in DM to 1. Balance Enzo and 2. Cover Thiago. The main advantage of Caicedo is that if Enzo gets injured or rested, Caicedo can fill his role. Without Caicedo we have big dependency on Enzo and our quality will drop noticeably without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mário César 1,483 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Mhsc said: We have sold a lot of it though, and Gallagher out next. Personally I think several of the kids need good loans (Chuk, Hall, Casadei) and Santos is the one who looks ready to perhaps stay with the squad. That gives us Enzo and Santos currently, and some youth that might break in if they do well on loan at a top flight club - but next year. And some possibilities for people like Reese to play there too. Personally I’d like to add some height, power and pace in DM to 1. Balance Enzo and 2. Cover Thiago. The main advantage of Caicedo is that if Enzo gets injured or rested, Caicedo can fill his role. Without Caicedo we have big dependency on Enzo and our quality will drop noticeably without him. the problem is that if we buy 2 midfielders, next season we will be overload in this area again caicedo (?), enzo, another buy (?), chuk, casadei and santos its too much Reddish-Blue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,146 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mário César said: the problem is that if we buy 2 midfielders, next season we will be overload in this area again caicedo (?), enzo, another buy (?), chuk, casadei and santos its too much Would imagine we would loan or sell several of the kids, very unlikely they make it at Chelsea, as we know from many years of experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,483 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mhsc said: Would imagine we would loan or sell several of the kids, very unlikely they make it at Chelsea, as we know from many years of experience another problem is that they are all young so there is no perspective of sell they need to play to development besids chuk, that I still don't rate highly, I think casadei and santos have good futures but they need to play, ofc Reddish-Blue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,146 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mário César said: another problem is that they are all young so there is no perspective of sell they need to play to development besids chuk, that I still don't rate highly, I think casadei and santos have good futures but they need to play, ofc I meant in a years time we may loan or sell them, this year they should all go on loan except for Santos imo. A good loan in PL or any top flight league, hell even the Championship, is what they need for next year. We should just think to try to put these players in clubs where the style of football is the style we want them to develop with. Clubs managed by ex-Pep players, like Burnley, or ofc our satellite clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,791 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Another keeper may go off the market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,791 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 A Kylian Mbappe loan offer to help him stay fit for Euro 2024 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,819 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 If we get Caceido and get rid of Gallagher - I think keeping Santos and Casadei in the team to grow is perfect. Both look good enough to fill minutes IMO. You have Reece who can slot into DMF as well. Kudus comes in - and you have the CAM position locked up with him and Nkunku, and also Mudryk who can rotate into there. ST - Jackson, Broja, Nkunku LW - Mudryk, Sterling, Maatsen RW - Madueke, Kudus, Ziyech CAM - Nkunku, Kudus, Mudryk CM - Enzo, Caceido, Casadei, Santos There is enough there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Mhsc said: Yeah, I assume Lavia and Liverpool have actually had an agreement for a while which is why no one else ended up going for him. Exactly. He just waited for Pool to get some money in. Mhsc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,674 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 44 minutes ago, Mhsc said: Would imagine we would loan or sell several of the kids, very unlikely they make it at Chelsea, as we know from many years of experience If we're going to end up selling all these kids, then why bother buying them? Especially when the club have just appointed a manager who has a pretty good track record with youngsters... not saying that they all make it but Casadei/Santos already look a level above some of the other young midfielders that we've had on the books in recent years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 2 hours ago, chelsea_4_eva said: I actually want to see a "senior" midfielder come in before we sell Gallagher, or at least have agreed terms with. Enzo will be our only senior midfielder left and just worry that other clubs will raise their price because we are looking. Goeretzka (sorry for spelling) is available. I would be all over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, Thor said: If we get Caceido and get rid of Gallagher - I think keeping Santos and Casadei in the team to grow is perfect. Both look good enough to fill minutes IMO. You have Reece who can slot into DMF as well. Kudus comes in - and you have the CAM position locked up with him and Nkunku, and also Mudryk who can rotate into there. ST - Jackson, Broja, Nkunku LW - Mudryk, Sterling, Maatsen RW - Madueke, Kudus, Ziyech CAM - Nkunku, Kudus, Mudryk CM - Enzo, Caceido, Casadei, Santos There is enough there. We need more experience imo. Silva is the only one in the squad who has been there and done it and he is 39. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 16 hours ago, Pizy said: Lavia is a fantastic talent but is still just 19 and probably isn’t ready to be an every match starter at a huge club yet. Klopp in dreamland as midfielder Roméo Lavia chooses Liverpool over Arsenal, Chelsea; agreement reached https://www.teamtalk.com/liverpool/klopp-in-dreamland-midfielder-chooses-liverpool-over-arsenal-Chelsea-agreement-reached Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,483 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 1 minute ago, King Kante said: We need more experience imo. Silva is the only one in the squad who has been there and done it and he is 39. where? midfielder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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