Chelsea Transfers

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1 hour ago, Pizy said:

The Leeds keeper was outstanding in the ‘21/‘22 season but apparently was pretty poor this past one. Not sure how I’d feel about targeting him. Still very young so maybe can’t judge him accurately yet.

Mendy is better. Meslier is better on the ball, but I would take Mendy tall day over him. Probably Kepa too. I would like to think and do believe this is nothing more than mere speculation anyway and nothing concrete.

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33 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Seems to be huge emphasis on sending Casadei to a PL club as if its the only option but the jump from Championship to PL is absolutely huge. Wouldn’t necessarily rush it if he’s not ready for it or won’t feature a lot. U21 football’s quality is also concerning and difficult to judge in terms of gauging in comparison to first team football.

James didn't have much trouble adjusting. I'd like to see him given a chance during preseason before making a final decision.

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The Leeds keeper is dogshit.

[OneMoSalah 9,093]

1 hour ago, LAM09 said:

James didn't have much trouble adjusting. I'd like to see him given a chance during preseason before making a final decision.

True but is he as good as Reece? Or Mase?

I think he needs a bit more time - could be argued Reece and Mase were thrust in due to the transfer ban but would of made the cut eventually IMO (particularly if Sarri stayed) as their talent was evidently clear but there was also frustrating moments with both.

Casadei is definitely a different level to what they were, as in a step below and he played in a side that got relegated, not promoted/in the running for it. He is probably someone who may need to take a bit longer, like Conor Gallagher maybe, who for me was always going to need another season on loan after Palace but we kept him and look how his season panned out/the perception of him. Wasn’t ready. May never be ready.

I think Poch will maybe use him preseason like he will use a lot of players but if a good championship loan comes up where he is 90% likely to play every game in comparison to a Villa/Brighton where he would more than likely be a squad/rotation player, then its clear which is better. The boys only 20. 

People need to think about taking this using him to acquire Caicedo idea out of the equation and look at if Brighton is realistically a team he can break into? I don’t see it. From what I’ve seen he is physically good but maybe the technical and tactical side of things, could be improved upon. Maybe playing there he would learn it but wouldn’t think he would be a regular there. Plus they are usually 3 or 4 steps ahead recruiting wise and I’d imagine they will know who to get/have similar players lined up for Caicedo’s departure and Mac Allister already.

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1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said:

True but is he as good as Reece? Or Mase?

I think he needs a bit more time - could be argued Reece and Mase were thrust in due to the transfer ban but would of made the cut eventually IMO (particularly if Sarri stayed) as their talent was evidently clear but there was also frustrating moments with both.

Casadei is definitely a different level to what they were, as in a step below and he played in a side that got relegated, not promoted/in the running for it. He is probably someone who may need to take a bit longer, like Conor Gallagher maybe, who for me was always going to need another season on loan after Palace but we kept him and look how his season panned out/the perception of him. Wasn’t ready. May never be ready.

I think Poch will maybe use him preseason like he will use a lot of players but if a good championship loan comes up where he is 90% likely to play every game in comparison to a Villa/Brighton where he would more than likely be a squad/rotation player, then its clear which is better. The boys only 20. 

People need to think about taking this using him to acquire Caicedo idea out of the equation and look at if Brighton is realistically a team he can break into? I don’t see it. From what I’ve seen he is physically good but maybe the technical and tactical side of things, could be improved upon. Maybe playing there he would learn it but wouldn’t think he would be a regular there. Plus they are usually 3 or 4 steps ahead recruiting wise and I’d imagine they will know who to get/have similar players lined up for Caicedo’s departure and Mac Allister already.

Reece only needed 1 loan, Mase was on loan for 2 seasons before being given a shot in the first team (and that may not have happened if it wasn't for the transfer ban and Lamps being the interim coach). 

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1 hour ago, Reddish-Blue said:

Reece only needed 1 loan, Mase was on loan for 2 seasons before being given a shot in the first team (and that may not have happened if it wasn't for the transfer ban and Lamps being the interim coach). 

Exactly but again the question is, is Casadei on that level? Is he ready to play regularly for a team in the top half in PL? Like Reece and Mase were much more geared up for? Not so sure. 

Aye granted I could be wrong but the lads only played 15 games in the championship for a side that got relegated. He looked decent in certain games, scored some goals as well as having done well for Italys u21s but I think these things can be very deceiving. Particularly u21s football.

Pre-season is also not exactly going to be a good barometer to judge him on, particularly looking at other past years and years of young players being involved then being shipped out on loan/never used. 

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15 hours ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

 

Well pay up for him then

[Special Juan 28,732]

Sending messages to Mason Mount eh? Don't send message United send us 70M and he can fuck off

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On 11/06/2023 at 08:18, ZAPHOD2319 said:

 

Like all that I've heard from him so far. Glad we got this done long ago before any competition.

[Special Juan 28,732]

Wonder what this week will throw up? 

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7 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

Reece only needed 1 loan, Mase was on loan for 2 seasons before being given a shot in the first team (and that may not have happened if it wasn't for the transfer ban and Lamps being the interim coach). 

Ability wise Reece is pretty much a generational talent. Possibly our best academy graduate since JT. He could have gone on loan to Iceland and still made it through. Shame injuries have caught up with him. For casadei a loan in England would not hurt acclimatising him but obv minutes should be priority. Villa and Brighton both would probably not play him enough 

3 minutes ago, Strike said:

Like all that I've heard from him so far. Glad we got this done long ago before any competition.

yup. 
Second striker is a BS position for players with waning powers. For strikers who don’t score  enough goals, 10s who are not creative and wingers who have become slow. Best example is Griezmann.  Nkunku on the other hand is at the pinnacle of his powers, he can play everywhere in attack but his best position indeed is behind a striker but he can more than deliver as a winger as well. 

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15 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Wonder what this week will throw up? 

We will give away Lukaku, KK and maybe throw in Pulisic to Inter for an opportunity to pay twice the worth of keeper we could get free year ago but purposely given up on and then proceed to buy 12 mediocre 17yo's from second Bundesliga for 500 million total, preferably all AMF. You know, just the usual stuff.

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Tier 2

[bigbluewillie 1,974]

What's the point he's already stated he wants to stay at Inter.

Move on and go for Maignan, not for 100m E's though...Aint got a Euro key.

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2 minutes ago, bigbluewillie said:

What's the point he's already stated he wants to stay at Inter.

Move on and go for Maignan, not for 100m E's though...Aint got a Euro key.

he's open to move 

[Reddish-Blue 2,666]

16 minutes ago, bigbluewillie said:

What's the point he's already stated he wants to stay at Inter.

Move on and go for Maignan, not for 100m E's though...Aint got a Euro key.

Lukaku also said similar things but then when his agent told him he'd get a nice payday from Chelsea, he immediately changed his tune and agreed to the move. 

I like Onana as a GK but not sold on him for 50 million.  

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8 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Exactly but again the question is, is Casadei on that level? Is he ready to play regularly for a team in the top half in PL? Like Reece and Mase were much more geared up for? Not so sure. 

Aye granted I could be wrong but the lads only played 15 games in the championship for a side that got relegated. He looked decent in certain games, scored some goals as well as having done well for Italys u21s but I think these things can be very deceiving. Particularly u21s football.

Pre-season is also not exactly going to be a good barometer to judge him on, particularly looking at other past years and years of young players being involved then being shipped out on loan/never used. 

I agree with you on this but I just wonder whether he would be keen on another Championship level loan after starring for his national side (U20/U21).   Maybe he'd be better off with a loan to La Liga/Bundesliga for a year, would give him a chance to test his abilities and the level of competition would be a good indicator to see how he is developing.   I feel like he won't get any minutes at Villa with so many experienced options and I doubt Brighton go into next season without a proper Caicedo replacement. 

[Special Juan 28,732]

Looks like it's all in on Onana

[Pizy 19,259]

We were right on the verge of signing Ugarte (probably only hours away) and then after missing out on him we haven’t heard a peep about us moving on to the next target. Why haven’t we instantly advanced things with Caicedo, Lavia, or whoever else? We sitting back and waiting until Liverpool, Arse, and United snatch everyone up?

Fabrizio tweeted last night that Liverpool are quickly moving on to sign 2 more quality midfielders having already sealed Mac Allister. They’ll be after some of the same targets we are. So what are we doing?

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3 minutes ago, Pizy said:

We were right on the verge of signing Ugarte (probably only hours away) and then after missing out on him we haven’t heard a peep about us moving on to the next target. Why haven’t we instantly advanced things with Caicedo, Lavia, or whoever else? We sitting back and waiting until Liverpool, Arse, and United snatch everyone up?

Fabrizio tweeted last night that Liverpool are quickly moving on to sign 2 more quality midfielders having already sealed Mac Allister. They’ll be after some of the same targets we are. So what are we doing?

Be careful you get accused of being spoilt asking questions like that