ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, Vesper said: With all the media manipulation, they still want to sell him. Always take the butt hurt tweets with a grain of salt. Vegetable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,327 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 If Zakaria level of last night continues that would be amazing. Kovacic is always good and CC impressed me! Kante will extend and hopefully be back at his best. Nkunku is already here. So we just need Enzo. Kovacic (Kante) Enzo (Zakaria) Nkunku (CC) Keep Gallagher for squad depth because he can play multiple positions. Get rid of Jorginho, RLC and Mount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 hour ago, chelsea_4_eva said: Quite curious to see the terms of Kante's contract offer, given his history with injuries. I was surprised it wasn't ten years Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,194 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: With all the media manipulation, they still want to sell him. Always take the butt hurt tweets with a grain of salt. There was no (or very little) media manipulation. The reporting on the instalments (for paying the full release clause) came because that is what we lead Benfica to believe we were going to do. They have confirmed thsi at multiple levels. We also agreed to terms with the player. Benfica would never have held multiple meetings if we walked in and said from the beginning, well we think he is worth €85m, not €120m, so that is our offer. Enzo would have never bothered talking terms with us if he knew we were going to make an official bid that was 100% guaranteed to be rejected. It is not rocket science to see what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,928 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, Vesper said: It's just LUDICROUS that some here are still saying nothing out of the normal happened between us and Benfica. That we did nothing except make one official offer of €85m, and that was it. We agreed to terms with the lad, ffs. He was already halfway (or more) in his head in London. We discussed instalment payments based off the release clause (where the hell do you think that overpay came from??? We floated that to see if Benfica would let us really break up the payments). Why the hell would Benfica discuss instalment terms on a TOTAL offer that was €35m UNDER the release clause? Come on! This is why I pray we haven’t totally burned the bridge with Benfica and are still trying. Smooth things over and go back to the table with them. We have a top class player whose head has been so completely turned and has been so convinced to come to Chelsea that he has skipped training and will now miss a match. How often do we see a player that eager to come here? We HAVE to pay the money and get him, ffs. Vesper, Strike and dimmas 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,194 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Just now, Pizy said: This is why I pray we haven’t totally burned the bridge with Benfica and are still trying. Smooth things over and go back to the table with them. We have a top class player whose head has been so completely turned and has been so convinced to come to Chelsea that he has skipped training and will now miss a match. How often do we see a player that eager to come here? We HAVE to pay the money and get him, ffs. yep, and meanwhile there is now revisionism going on that tries to gaslight and paint Boehly as an innocent party, that the bid all along was always portrayed to Benfica from the start as €85m, as if they would have given that the time of day, as if Enzo would have agreed to terms for an offer that was guaranteed to be rejected instantly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Vesper said: yep, and meanwhile there is now revisionism going on that tries to gaslight and paint Boehly as an innocent party, that the bid all along was always portrayed to Benfica from the start as €85m, as if they would have given that the time of day, as if Enzo would have agreed to terms for an offer that was guaranteed to be rejected instantly We really do not know how they were disusing numbers. It really does not make sense that they sat down for a week and never talked about an actual total overall price. I don't think our negotiators were upfront about 85M but I also do not think that the 127M was a number that came from our people. Somewhere in the middle is the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,194 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: We really do not know how they were disusing numbers. It really does not make sense that they sat down for a week and never talked about an actual total overall price. I don't think our negotiators were upfront about 85M but I also do not think that the 127M was a number that came from our people. Somewhere in the middle is the truth. the release clause was €120m, I am sure the extra €7m or whatever was floated to see that if we overpaid a wee bit, would that get them to accept a better (for us with FFP) instalment payment scheme zero chance Benfica and Enzo would have went and continued if we had laid out €85m officially to start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,194 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 finally! https://vasco.com.br/boasorteandreysantos/ Vasco da Gama agreed this Friday (01/06) the definitive transfer of the athlete Andrey Santos to European football. Born in the youth ranks of Gigante da Colina, the midfielder will defend the colors of Chelsea, from England, in the coming seasons. The youngster will end his first spell at the club from São Januário at the age of 18 with 38 appearances and eight goals. ANDREY SANTOS In São Januário since 2011, Andrey Santos started his career in futsal and it didn't take long to become the main reference of the 2004 Generation. by the Hill Giant. In 2021, after debuting in a Carioca Championship match, Andrey Santos became the youngest player to ever play for Vasco da Gama in the 21st Century, leaving behind names like Talles Magno, Paulinho and Philippe Coutinho. The definitive promotion of Andrey Santos to the professional, however, only happened last season, during the dispute of the Brazilian Championship. Hamilton and Blue Armour 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Vesper said: the release clause was €120m, I am sure the extra €7m or whatever was floated to see that if we overpaid a wee bit, would that get them to accept a better (for us with FFP) instalment payment scheme zero chance Benfica and Enzo would have went and continued if we had laid out €85m officially to start This is purely my speculation. It could be wildly wrong. I think we want the deal done for 100M. There is nobody else even remotely showing signs of bidding. Our team makes an 85M offer knowing it will be rejected out of hand and think they can come back and get it done for 100M. Vegetable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,194 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: This is purely my speculation. It could be wildly wrong. I think we want the deal done for 100M. There is nobody else even remotely showing signs of bidding. Our team makes an 85M offer knowing it will be rejected out of hand and think they can come back and get it done for 100M. 100m euros or pounds? I assume you mean euros, in which case Benfica will tell us to fuck off likely even at £100m, even thsough that is only £5m short of the release clause of €120m (£105m) the 85m offer we short armed was euros (£74m) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,194 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) Callum Hudson-Odoi: Chelsea winger on life in Germany, Bayer Leverkusen and Chelsea (video) https://www.bbc.com/sport/av/football/63350452 Chelsea winger Callum Hudson-Odoi, on loan at Bayer Leverkusen, talks to BBC Sport's Alistair Magowan about playing in the Bundesliga and his club and international future. Edited January 6, 2023 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,327 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Spurs find Reece replacement for us. Watch us getting interested in a couple of days 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, Vesper said: 100m euros or pounds? I assume you mean euros, in which case Benfica will tell us to fuck off likely even at £100m, even thsough that is only £5m short of the release clause of €120m (£105m) the 85m offer we short armed was euros (£74m) Yes Euros. They could tell us that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,194 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Spurs find Reece replacement for us. Watch us getting interested in a couple of days 😄 lol, how many fullbacks/wingbacks are spuds going to buy????????? Porro would make EIGHT Ryan Sessegnon Ben Davies Ivan Perisic Destiny Udogie (beast potential LB, out on loan still) Emerson Royal Djed Spence Matt Doherty Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,194 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) told you now Chelsea now consider move to sign £18m right-back who just shut down Vinicius Junior last week https://www.thechelseachronicle.com/transfer-news/report-Chelsea-now-consider-move-to-sign-18m-right-back-who-just-shut-down-vinicius-junior-last-week/ Chelsea are reportedly interested in a potential move for Real Valladolid youngster Ivan Fresneda. Fresneda, who’s just 18, is a talented right-back that’s starting to attract a lot of interest. The full-back has made just 11 senior appearances to date, but an eye-catching performance against Real Madrid last week has helped enhance his growing reputation. He was excellent last Friday when defending in direct competition against Madrid’s superstar left-winger Vinicius Junior. Fresneda was given a 7:06 match rating after making eight tackles, three clearances and two interceptions (WhoScored). Chelsea interested in Ivan Fresneda According to 90min, Fresneda is now wanted by a host of top sides across Europe. It is understood that Premier League teams Chelsea, Newcastle United, Arsenal, Tottenham and Manchester United are all considering approaches for the young defender. Also, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, Bayern Munich, Borussia Dortmund and Juventus have set sights on the Spaniard. The report claims that Valladolid may be prepared to cash in on their prized asset and sell him for around €20million (£18million). A lot of Chelsea fans are campaigning for the club to sign a new right-back this January. With Reece James currently out injured, combined with repeated knee problems, the Blues need better full-back cover. The Daily Mail recently claimed Chelsea are keen to accelerate their interest in Celtic right-back Josip Juranovic. However, Fresneda is a really exciting youngster to now emerge on the radar, who does fit the kind of profile the club have been investing in. Edited January 6, 2023 by Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, Vesper said: told you now Chelsea now consider move to sign £18m right-back who just shut down Vinicius Junior last week https://www.thechelseachronicle.com/transfer-news/report-Chelsea-now-consider-move-to-sign-18m-right-back-who-just-shut-down-vinicius-junior-last-week/ Chelsea are reportedly interested in a potential move for Real Valladolid youngster Ivan Fresneda. Fresneda, who’s just 18, is a talented right-back that’s starting to attract a lot of interest. The full-back has made just 11 senior appearances to date, but an eye-catching performance against Real Madrid last week has helped enhance his growing reputation. He was excellent last Friday when defending in direct competition against Madrid’s superstar left-winger Vinicius Junior. Fresneda was given a 7:06 match rating after making eight tackles, three clearances and two interceptions (WhoScored). Chelsea interested in Ivan Fresneda According to 90min, Fresneda is now wanted by a host of top sides across Europe. It is understood that Premier League teams Chelsea, Newcastle United, Arsenal, Tottenham and Manchester United are all considering approaches for the young defender. Also, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, Bayern Munich, Borussia Dortmund and Juventus have set sights on the Spaniard. The report claims that Valladolid may be prepared to cash in on their prized asset and sell him for around €20million (£18million). A lot of Chelsea fans are campaigning for the club to sign a new right-back this January. With Reece James currently out injured, combined with repeated knee problems, the Blues need better full-back cover. The Daily Mail recently claimed Chelsea are keen to accelerate their interest in Celtic right-back Josip Juranovic. However, Fresneda is a really exciting youngster to now emerge on the radar, who does fit the kind of profile the club have been investing in. He is good defensively and looked great vs Vini but Fresneda has never scored it assisted a goal on any senior level ever in his life. He would help us 0 atm. mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: He is good defensively and looked great vs Vini but Fresneda has never scored it assisted a goal on any senior level ever in his life. He would help us 0 atm. He's 18 and has an upward trajectory. We need a player at RB that is good defensively, technical, and can play some progressive passes. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 For 18 million is not much to lose. He might have better return then Lukaku yearly wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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