Chelsea Transfers

[milka 3,393]

 

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[King Kante 1,643]

2 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

This potential deal gives me Joao Felix vibes.   He moved on after 1 season with Benfica, 120 million transfer fee, had all the talent in the world to be the next big thing. 

 

As @Pizysays, it is a different with AM/CF's. In those positions you have to essentially be Mbappe or Häland levels to be appreciated; especially if you go for a high fee. Enzo is different, he'll get a lot more time and be able to settle without so much spotlight. 

The issue I see with Enzo is how he deals with the press and intensity in the PL. I do have concerns about that with him as whilst technically gifted, he'll have to process a lot quicker here and deal with the rough stuff. That is always difficult to judge a player on as to whether they can adapt to the PL; that said, I am not so worried about the rough stuff as typically Argies are massive sh*t housers, so I expect he is already used to that. 

Going back to Felix for a second however. I also feel AM were pretty much the worst move for him. DS's system really doesn't play to his strengths. I still feel when watching him that if he gets the right environment, he'll be a top player, if not quite a world class one. 

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

Probably agree the Enzo deal by Friday.  Dont think much will happen tomorrow on New Years Day

[TheHulk 2,457]

3 hours ago, Vesper said:

Chelsea: £26m target Youssoufa Moukoko 'likes Boehly's project' at Stamford Bridge

https://www.givemesport.com/88099092-Chelsea-youssoufa-moukoko-graham-potter-premier-league-borussia-dortmund-stamford-bridge-2

Chelsea “consider themselves in the lead” to sign Borussia Dortmund and Germany striker Youssoufa Moukoko for Graham Potter’s squad at Stamford Bridge, CBS reporter Ben Jacobs has told GiveMeSport.

The 18-year-old will enter the final six months of his current contract with the Bundesliga giants in January.

According to Bild in Germany, Dortmund have made their final contract offer to Moukoko, with the deal reportedly being worth £5.3m.

The teenager is reported to want around £6.2m, which will no doubt come as a boost to the Blues, who are looking to add another centre-forward to their squad alongside the recent £8m signing of Molde’s David Datro Fofana.

The Blues’ out-and-out striker options currently consist of Fofana and Pierre Emerick-Aubameyang, after Albanian forward Armando Broja suffered a season-ending injury in a friendly with Aston Villa earlier this month.

Jacobs has already told GiveMeSport that the west London outfit are looking to move quickly in signing the Dortmund wonderkid, with Barcelona, Liverpool and Manchester United being name-checked in the pursuit of the £26m valued forward.

And the journalist also states that Chelsea believe they are leading the race to sign Moukoko ahead of the January transfer window, with the player liking the club’s project which involves the Blues buying some of the globe’s best young talent.

What has Jacobs said about Chelsea and Moukoko?

When talking about a potential Chelsea move for Moukoko, Jacobs told GiveMeSport: “What we do know is that Moukoko likes the Chelsea project and pitch. So, Chelsea consider themselves in the lead at the moment, but there are a lot of twists and turns that can happen because of the contractual situation.

“Dortmund will continue to talk to the player after the festive period to see whether or not he will or won’t sign. Chelsea need to wait and understand that.”

Would Moukoko be a good signing for Chelsea?

Despite his young age, Moukoko has already proven that he is a solid striker option in a top European league, having scored six goals and provided four assists in 14 Bundesliga appearances this season, according to Transfermarkt.

These showings have led to the two-time Germany international being handed an average WhoScored rating of 6.88 for the current Bundesliga campaign, ranking him as the club’s joint-fifth-best performer at Signal Iduna Park.

And he is certainly capable of competing with the continent’s best number nine’s, ranking in the top 7% of forwards across Europe’s big five leagues as well as the Champions League and Europa League for non-penalty goals per 90 minutes (0.60) over the last 365 days, according to FBref.

Therefore, it looks as though Moukoko would be the ideal signing for Todd Boehly and Potter, with the club looking to transition into a younger and fresher squad ahead of both the winter and summer transfer markets of 2023.

As someone else mentioned, getting Enzo would inflict more positivity into the project and our potential targets knowing we are serious about this. I kinda hope Moukoko happens as well, rate him.

[Clockwork 1,794]

3 hours ago, King Kante said:

As @Pizysays, it is a different with AM/CF's. In those positions you have to essentially be Mbappe or Häland levels to be appreciated; especially if you go for a high fee. Enzo is different, he'll get a lot more time and be able to settle without so much spotlight. 

The issue I see with Enzo is how he deals with the press and intensity in the PL. I do have concerns about that with him as whilst technically gifted, he'll have to process a lot quicker here and deal with the rough stuff. That is always difficult to judge a player on as to whether they can adapt to the PL; that said, I am not so worried about the rough stuff as typically Argies are massive sh*t housers, so I expect he is already used to that. 

Going back to Felix for a second however. I also feel AM were pretty much the worst move for him. DS's system really doesn't play to his strengths. I still feel when watching him that if he gets the right environment, he'll be a top player, if not quite a world class one. 

I still believe in Felix talent, it’s hard to deny his pure talent when watching him. 

[Strike 7,489]

City snapped up the Argentine mid Benfica were looking to replace Enzo with. Does look like they're doing what they can to scuttle this Enzo deal

[Blue Armour 4,439]

11 minutes ago, Strike said:

City snapped up the Argentine mid Benfica were looking to replace Enzo with. Does look like they're doing what they can to scuttle this Enzo deal

Miserable fuckers, if true. 

Probably also to do with how Argentine transfers work out well due to their current economic condition, like someone said. But I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case 

[Vegetable 830]

4 hours ago, Clockwork said:

I still believe in Felix talent, it’s hard to deny his pure talent when watching him. 

Let aside numbers, that are not quite there, like with most of those wonderkids, report were he had very tough relation with manager, who expected him to defend. He was upset when not played, upset when not played right, upset when something was demanded from him and generally didn't present himself very level-headed reportedly. To different extent, but it smells Dembele vibes for me and I doubt we need this kind of character in the club ever, especially now. Plus, as someone mentioned, it all comes down to typical issue of what you can do in Spain, you can't really repeat in EPL.

[Reddish-Blue 2,506]

8 hours ago, King Kante said:

As @Pizysays, it is a different with AM/CF's. In those positions you have to essentially be Mbappe or Häland levels to be appreciated; especially if you go for a high fee. Enzo is different, he'll get a lot more time and be able to settle without so much spotlight. 

The issue I see with Enzo is how he deals with the press and intensity in the PL. I do have concerns about that with him as whilst technically gifted, he'll have to process a lot quicker here and deal with the rough stuff. That is always difficult to judge a player on as to whether they can adapt to the PL; that said, I am not so worried about the rough stuff as typically Argies are massive sh*t housers, so I expect he is already used to that. 

Going back to Felix for a second however. I also feel AM were pretty much the worst move for him. DS's system really doesn't play to his strengths. I still feel when watching him that if he gets the right environment, he'll be a top player, if not quite a world class one. 

It will be interesting to see how it unfolds as I don't recall many 'midfielders' going for 100+ million in recent times.  The French talent that moved to Real Madrid would probably be the closest at 80 million...

In terms of PL transfers, the two big transfers that come to mind are: Casemiro approx 70 million and Rodri was about 60+ million for City. 

[DDA 9,939]

Imagine if City's player turns out to be the better player of the 2 haha. 

 

If this is a ploy to scupper our deal, then fuck them rats 

 

 

 

[Vegetable 830]

Yeah, 7D chess from City, but it's not like Benfica can let themselves not sell the guy, because they don't have a replacement they wanted. Not with this kind of money. 

[Pizy 18,909]

Benfica have some of the best scouts in Europe. I highly doubt they’d scupper a deal that would net them 100m or more because one of the potential replacements is off the table. They probably have half a dozen talents lined up in the event that Enzo goes.

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

 

[Mhsc 1,097]

Would be nice to have him by the time we play City, if this deal is actually happening.

If we got Caicedo as well then our midfield would surely be 'sorted' for a long time to come.

[DDA 9,939]

9 minutes ago, Mhsc said:

Would be nice to have him by the time we play City, if this deal is actually happening.

If we got Caicedo as well then our midfield would surely be 'sorted' for a long time to come.

No chance we get Caicedo aswell ad Enzo.... absolutely no chance.

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

Santos-Enzo future pivot?

[Vesper 30,181]

3 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

It will be interesting to see how it unfolds as I don't recall many 'midfielders' going for 100+ million in recent times.  The French talent that moved to Real Madrid would probably be the closest at 80 million...

In terms of PL transfers, the two big transfers that come to mind are: Casemiro approx 70 million and Rodri was about 60+ million for City. 

The  most expensive CMF/DMF transfers in history, adjusted for inflation

Pogba in 2016 for €125.7m

de Jong in 2019 for €97.9m

no other one €90m or more

 

AMF

ZZ  €119.6m in 2001

Figo €94.8m in 2000 (he played a lot at winger too, expecially early in his career)

De Bruyne  €91.2m in 2015

Kai €90.4m in 2020

James €90.1m in 2014

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

So these long contracts for players is only to help us with FFP. 

[Jype 6,398]

23 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

So these long contracts for players is only to help us with FFP. 

Not really.Having the transfer fee amortization spread over a longer period definitely plays a part but it's not necessarily the only reason.

For the younger players (Slonina, Chukwuemeka, Casadei) a contract longer than the usual 5 years allows for the club to see out their development over the next few years without having to worry about their contracts running down and having any negotiation leverage shift to the player's camp instead.

As for W. Fofana and Cucurella the lower amortization and thus FFP was certainly a factor but it also means both of them are tied to the club for pretty much the entirety of their prime years (Fofana till 29yo and Cucurella till 30yo). Same for Enzo if he ends up signing.

As long as the players are succsesful it's very good to have them tied on long-term deals. However if they end up being terrible buys it will mean they're very difficult to get rid of.

Edited January 1, 2023 by Jype

[MoroccanBlue 5,382]

Looks like the Enzo dream is over. 
 

Ornstein just reported we aren’t in the final stages with Benfica at all and won’t be hold ransom. We will walk away if necessary.