Chelsea Transfers

[MoroccanBlue 5,306]

Going to be interesting how Kounde fairs here.

On the ball he is brilliant, and from the glimpses I've seen he can read the game decently well. His height obviously a question mark but his defensive statistics in aerial duels look promising. Will see if that translates in England. 

[Styl1994 188]

4 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Simeu to Southampton confirmed. Chelsea gets 1,5m.

 

Was he highly rated didn’t hear a lot of buzz about him?

[Pizy 18,368]

As I said a little while ago, being great in the air isn’t all about height. Thiago Silva is on the short side for a CB and he has been fantastic in the air his whole career due to his superb positioning, his athleticism, and his great vertical leap. 
 

Koundé is shorter than Silva but he’s got all the other tools to overcome that.

[Alabama 1,992]

10 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

maybe. same with kounde. there are probably higher rated cbs in la liga as well. personally for me eder militao, alaba, gimenez and possibly diego carlos are better

Except for Eder Militao...the guy is shit...

[NikkiCFC 7,953]

 

[MoroccanBlue 5,306]

3 minutes ago, Styl1994 said:

Was he highly rated didn’t hear a lot of buzz about him?

Standard English tall and strong CB. Not a real loss if Mbuyamba lives up to his potential. 

[Magic Lamps 11,655]

6 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Going to be interesting how Kounde fairs here.

On the ball he is brilliant, and from the glimpses I've seen he can read the game decently well. His height obviously a question mark but his defensive statistics in aerial duels look promising. Will see if that translates in England. 

 

2 minutes ago, Pizy said:

As I said a little while ago, being great in the air isn’t all about height. Thiago Silva is on the short side for a CB and he has been fantastic in the air his whole career due to his superb positioning, his athleticism, and his great vertical leap. 
 

Koundé is shorter than Silva but he’s got all the other tools to overcome that.

I don't doubt that he is a good footballer but I just don't see him excelling in PL. You just can not teach height. maybe his jumping or heading technique can compensate some of it but sometimes you just dont have the time to go for a leap and just need to stand there block a ball that wil evade you when you are too short. or you need the strnegth to push a player off it. In PL strength and height is so important, a fun sized, weak, short CB will not cut it no matter how good he looks in other leagues

Maybe he could become a world class right back or DM, he surely is good on the ball, decent movement and reading of the game but even Alex Ferguson did not want gary neville as a permanent cb cos he is just as short as kounde. this will simply not work.

[Jype 6,398]

14 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Which wouldn't have been in the last couple of hours. So once again we have a situation where we've heard next to no links with a player, nothing from the trusted, reliable news sources and then when things do break they are already seemingly in an advanced situation.

It's the exact reason why people shouldn't be getting so worked up about the lack of news and links in recent weeks. 

Yea, some journo tweeted that talks over Koundé transfer have been ongoing for two weeks now and today's the first we're hearing of it.

 

3 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

 

Who the hell is that guy?

[Styl1994 188]

3 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

 

Who is this random guy. 

[NikkiCFC 7,953]

7 minutes ago, Jype said:

 

Who the hell is that guy?

 

6 minutes ago, Styl1994 said:

Who is this random guy. 

Worked for Daily Mail, now working closely with Sky 🤣

Edited July 27, 2021 by NikkiCFC

[NikkiCFC 7,953]

7 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

 

I don't doubt that he is a good footballer but I just don't see him excelling in PL. You just can not teach height. maybe his jumping or heading technique can compensate some of it but sometimes you just dont have the time to go for a leap and just need to stand there block a ball that wil evade you when you are too short. or you need the strnegth to push a player off it. In PL strength and height is so important, a fun sized, weak, short CB will not cut it no matter how good he looks in other leagues

Maybe he could become a world class right back or DM, he surely is good on the ball, decent movement and reading of the game but even Alex Ferguson did not want gary neville as a permanent cb cos he is just as short as kounde. this will simply not work.

Azpi is same height and is playing this position for years. Do you agree that RCB is best role for Azpi over RB or LB or RWB or DM? 

Walker also. So you think Azpi height 178cm is not a problem but Kounde height 178cm is a problem?

And I wonder will he bench Azpi from day one?

Edited July 27, 2021 by NikkiCFC

[Blues Forever 1,232]

10 minutes ago, Alabama said:

Except for Eder Militao...the guy is shit...

How can someone who displaced Ramos is shit?

[Jase 43,479]

Monday: *Fans on TC giving up on the club signing players*

Tuesday:

3 hours ago, Jype said:

Yea, here's Romano tweet about it. 

 

[Vesper 28,842]

19 minutes ago, Artandur said:

That is simply not true

yes it is

 

other than an argument between Fabinho and Baka, But Fabinho played much higher then (at Monaco), was not at all a true DMF then

 

2016-17 Ligue 1 DMF's rated over £10m (almsot all Ligue 1 DMF's were under £4m, many under £1m

Grzegorz Krychowiak (massive bust at PSG and the rest of his career has been shit)

Bakayoko

Fabinho 

Maxime Gonalons Lyon (3rd best, but we were not going to buy a DMF who turned 29yothe season we bought him, roma did, the same window we boght Bkakyoko, and Gonalons career basically ended asa full time starter, he was a complete bust, worse than Bakayoko)

that is all of them

 

 

 

December 25, 2017

 

http://b90m.com/features/player-ratings/ranked-europes-top-25-defensive-midfielders-end-2016-17

Highest ranked Ligue 1 DMF was Bakayoko

[laura90 556]

This Kounde looks better than everyone we signed in 2017. Way better. He is ball playing CB, albeit short one. Question remains how good he will preform in PL. Means something if Pep wanted him.  What worries me is that pursuing this fella means we will continue with back five. Our attacking talents need to improve massively, like:

Havertz  from 4 to around 20

Timo from 6 to around 18

Mount  from 4 - around 15

Pulisic from 4 to around 12

Ziyech from 2 to around 10

and we will be fine. 

Striker. Even if we get one, I will believe when he starts scoring goals.

Edited July 27, 2021 by laura90

[Magic Lamps 11,655]

15 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Azpi is same height and is playing this position for years. Do you agree that RCB is best role for Azpi over RB or LB or RWB or DM? 

Walker also. So you think Azpi height 178cm is not a problem but Kounde height 178cm is a problem?

And I wonder will he bench Azpi from day one?

In a back 3 maybe. but even then we have to compensate and have  him play more advanced of the other cbs making us lopsided. But you don't sign a cb only for one formation. Surely at some point, we will switch to back 4 under tt oder another manager and you also don't play Azpi as cb in a back 4. Honestly I never liked Azpi as cb even in a back 3. I further don't think that Kounde is remotely as tough as Azpi.

Also, again, there are jsut so many quality, tall cbs available who cost half of what Kounde does. Maybe it is bc he scores a flashy goal every blue moon but he is so so overrated. Why do we pick the one tiny, overhyped cb? itdoes not  make sense.  Just sign Lacroix for 25-30m and be done with it. So many quality CBs like Konate, Varane already moved and we stood by so i thought maybe we just dont sign one this summer but no we go in for the one i explicitly never wanted. Just feels shit.

[Vesper 28,842]

37 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

He was good but not top rated, Fabinho at that time was rated higher than Bakayoko.

but Fabinho played much higher up the pitch for Monaco, he was not a true crunching DMF for them, that was Baka

Fabinho also played a tonne at RB for Monaco and Brasil

[Jase 43,479]

9 minutes ago, iceboy said:

 

Fjortoft and Romano also said if we're gonna do a deal, it'll likely have to be by the first week of August or so because Dortmund are very unlikely to sell once their season begins.