Chelsea Transfers

[Pizy 18,368]

Koundé isn’t 5’5”, ffs. He’s not Kante sized like @Vesper is making him out to be. Yes he shorter than you’d want a top class CB to be but I don’t think it’s a dealbreaker. Again, not saying I want to sign him but if we did I wouldn’t be complaining because of his height.

Also, despite his lack of height he’s built like an absolute tank. I think he’d be just fine in the PL.

[Styl1994 188]

Tuchel is really high on Lacroix

[Magic Lamps 11,655]

9 minutes ago, Styl1994 said:

Tuchel is really high on Lacroix

I hope that is true.

lacroix has the physical and technical tools to succeed anywhere. If someone can teach him even better defence it’s TT. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,306]

27 minutes ago, Styl1994 said:

Tuchel is really high on Lacroix

This rumor died a month ago

[Vesper 28,846]

8 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Koundé isn’t 5’5”, ffs. He’s not Kante sized like @Vesper is making him out to be. Yes he shorter than you’d want a top class CB to be but I don’t think it’s a dealbreaker. Again, not saying I want to sign him but if we did I wouldn’t be complaining because of his height.

Also, despite his lack of height he’s built like an absolute tank. I think he’d be just fine in the PL.

the height difference between Kante and Kounde is less between Rudiger and Zouma (they are the same height) less than the difference between Alonso and Kounde, and the same as between AC and Kounde

Chilwell and Mount are the same height as Kounde, and Kovacic is only 1cm shorter than Kounde

Reece James is 4 cm taller than Kounde

[Vesper 28,846]

we are not buying Kounde so I am done here

I only was pushing back against the notion that he is not short, and too short for a top class CB in the EPL IMHO

He is only 1cm taller than Kovacic ffs. Would people pushing back on me feel comfortable with Kova as a CB in the air?

we are not going to drop £69m on him

that would be the 3rd most ever spent on a CB or any defender in football history

£9m less than Slabhead, £7m less than VVD

and in a market decimated by COVID, where quality players are going for pennies on the pound

ain't happening

sorry

Edited July 16, 2021 by Vesper

[Magic Lamps 11,655]

I can totally see us not making any marquee signing at all. Just backup goalie probably hennessy, maybe pedraza if we manage to shed Emerson and Alonso and maybe a cb or dm and call it a day. We preponed our spending last summer. I can also imagine TT transforming one from the deadwood into a usable squad option. 

[Magic Lamps 11,655]

Btw SSN Germany transfer update was focused on us today. Apparently we evaluated  all kinds of swap deals for haaland all for naught 

Ziyech and Timo are in our plans but we would listen to soziables offers .

lukaku and Chiesa rumours rubbished 

 

[MoroccanBlue 5,306]

3 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Btw SSN Germany transfer update was focused on us today. Apparently we evaluated  all kinds of swap deals for haaland all for naught 

Ziyech and Timo are in our plans but we would listen to soziables offers .

lukaku and Chiesa rumours rubbished 

 

Would love to see @Jas reaction if we offered Werner + cash for Haaland and Dortmund accepted. 

[NikkiCFC 7,953]

I barely watched Kounde so I am not going to say anything about his abilities. But speaking about height, in 3 atb, one CB being shorter is less of a issue.

Walker just played it for England and he is 178cm. Azpi the same. Reece just a bit taller. D Ambrosio played regularly for Conte and he is 180cm. In 3atb, one CB being shorter and with pace is almost advisable.

It would be a issue with regular formation but even there you have example of Barca dominating Euro footy with Mascherano 174cm and Puyol 178cm.

Kounde as RCB with Chris in the middle and Rudi LCB would not be a issue at all.

 

 

[Jase 43,479]

10 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Ziyech and Timo are in our plans but we would listen to soziables offers .

Where's the sense in wanting to sell 2 strikers and buying only 1?

6 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Would love to see @Jas reaction if we offered Werner + cash for Haaland and Dortmund accepted. 

There's probably an alternate timeline for that scenario...

[Mário César 975]

who the fuck want timo werner? lulz

[Vesper 28,846]

6 minutes ago, Mário César said:

who the fuck want timo werner? lulz

I still think he comes good

[Mário César 975]

9 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I still think he comes good

And I think the same but after he underperforming his value is weak

[Vesper 28,846]

19 minutes ago, Mário César said:

And I think the same but after he underperforming his value is weak

yes, which is why it makes no sense to me to contemplate dumping him now

plus this market is shite for selling all but a handful of players

literally every CF on the planet is potentially for sale (or has already moved)

I think this is the first time I can say this in my football-following life

Kane wants out badly or he would be the exception

Benzema turns 35 next year (2022), RM would so toss him under the bus if you waved enough money (far too much IMHO) in their face to help them grab a huge player now

[King Kante 1,483]

Where I stand on transfers is this. If we can get a Håland or any other high celing/elite player then we should do. If our only options are players like Lukaku/Troare/Ings then don't buy anyone and use the youth or some of the loan players. 

[NikkiCFC 7,953]

We want 4th midfielder but from the perspective of that player is not that simply.

Jorginho and Kante had strong finish of the season. According to bookies they are in top7 most likely winners of Ballon d Or! So they are certain starters.

Kova is also someone TT likes a lot and will play his regular 2500-3000 mins. So where would that leave our 4th MF? Look how much was space there for Billy.

And I think we are back to 7 subs which means you have 2 players on the pitch, 1 one the bench which leaves that 4th guy in the stands.

So we either give that role to Gallagher or buy Tchouameni but making sure he knows that he will not play a lot in a first season or two.

[LAM09 6,751]

15 hours ago, Jas said:

Greed? Dortmund haven't come out and explicitly said the amount that it would take for them to sell Haaland this summer, have they? The €175 million/£150 million price that has been thrown around has been mentioned only by the media and for all we know, it could be BS and the asking price could be higher.

And as I was saying to King Kante, I was speaking hypothetically. What if Dortmund really stick with their stance but just want to see how far we're willing to go for Haaland? Because at the end of the day, they're still the seller and if they aren't desperate to sell Haaland as we are desperate to buy him, then they can just milk us for good. Dortmund aren't just blindly a selling club because they also want to be competitive and with a new, bright young coach at the helm, they would want to try and achieve something big.

Have they ever done that aside from when clauses are well publicised?

The fact it's probably this summer or bust, as a few others have said, plays it part. No one here knows if we've actively registered our interest in him, but if we have, we either need to offer a figure that is in their ball park (£150m IMO) or move on and prevent another transfer saga dragging on till the end of the window.