Vesper 30,186 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: They can go FUCK THEMSELVES £72M or so will grab Havertz Only in crackland is Chilwell worth almsot £10m more quid than Havertz For £80m Alphonso Davies, yes. TAA , yes Kimmich, yes (although he isnt playing there much atm) ZERO other fullbacks on the planet are worth remotely close to or over £80m Unless you also count Lucas Hernandez as a LB If Alaba was not soon 28 (in 19 days), and was 23, 24, 25, then hell yes Hakimi and Robertson are the next closest, and I would pay £60m max atm for them Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: Have those transfer fees been inflated as they do not look like the fees that were quoted at the time when we brought these players. I'm sure Duff has even been quoted saying his transfer fee was £17m. And from what I can remember at the time Drogba's move was assumed around £24m, and I always thought Cech was around £7m. Drogs deffo 24 mill as I remember it Johnnyeye and Fulham Broadway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,918 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 The English tax was always going to be in play with Chilwell and tbf Leicester would have zero reason to lower that valuation in normal times. But I suspect he'll be much cheaper than £80m if he goes due to financial issues stemming from the virus. I think they'd be lucky to get £40m if he really pushes to go. Johnnyeye and Vesper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Special Juan said: Chilwell won't go for 80M, not a chance. There has to be a balance between the player wanting to go and Leicester as the selling club keeping a player that wants away. Keeping a player that wants away is tough for a club, plus the pandemic has clubs needing money and money is good money. Correct! I reckon it'll be in the 50 mark somewhere Johnnyeye and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 TBH, I do not really understand why everyone thinks the Chilwell rumours are true. Seriously, how many Chelsea transfers in the past two-three years have actually been called by the press before it is pretty much done? For me I just do not see Chilwell happening as, even at £40m, is he way overpriced and there are two players who are much cheaper than him (Telles and Tag) who aren't even that much older than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,186 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, King Kante said: The inflation seems pretty low. I mean £17m in 2003 was serious money and definitely more than £23m or whatever T-Markt are saying (unless they are going by real inflation rather than football inflation). Real world inflation m8, football inflation is nebulous and subjective Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,186 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Pizy said: The English tax was always going to be in play with Chilwell and tbf Leicester would have zero reason to lower that valuation in normal times. But I suspect he'll be much cheaper than £80m if he goes. I think they'd be lucky to get £40m if he really pushes to go. £40m and its welcome to Chels Ben. 11Drogba, Johnnyeye and Atomiswave 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted June 5, 2020 Popular Post! Share Posted June 5, 2020 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/06/05/exclusive-petr-cechs-major-role-chelsea-transfers/ Frank Lampard and Petr Cech made an undercover pre-lockdown trip to Germany that helped Chelsea leapfrog Liverpool and Manchester United to convince Timo Werner to move to Stamford Bridge. Telegraph Sport can reveal that the pair gave Chelsea’s bid to sign the forward the personal touch, as they laid out their plans for how Werner will fit into Lampard’s vision for the team. It is understood that the visit from Lampard and Cech, who won three Premier League titles and the Champions League as Chelsea team-mates, hugely impressed Werner, his family and his representatives. The feeling was mutual, as Lampard and Cech were encouraged by Werner’s driven but humble character, and the trio have since remained in contact. Cech played a key role, as both Werner’s father and his agent Karlheinz Forster are not fluent in English but the former goalkeeper speaks perfect German and he was able to translate, as well as offering his own expertise. Werner was told about how Lampard wants his team to look next season and the duo talked to the 24-year-old about the winning mentality they want to breed at Stamford Bridge. Lampard had made Werner his priority some time ago and enquiries had been made before Christmas with Cech holding a first round of talks ahead of the January transfer window, but Werner did not want to leave Leipzig mid-season. Liverpool were thought to be leading the race to sign the Germany international, thanks to their charismatic manager Jurgen Klopp, while Manchester United had also shown an interest. Both clubs made personal contact before Chelsea, but Lampard and Cech proved their pulling power. The journey to Germany, which is believed to have taken place back in Chelsea’s February mid-season break before the coronavirus pandemic struck, gives an indication of the approach to transfers that Lampard, Cech and director Marina Granovskaia are taking. Granovskaia gave her full backing to Lampard and Cech making the trip, which made it clear Chelsea were prepared to meet the £53 million release clause if the player could be tempted. It also left Chelsea in an excellent position to complete the deal at a time when Werner and his agent could not travel to England because of the coronavirus restrictions and the resumption of the Bundesliga. Granovskaia had often been the lone negotiator following the departure of former technical director Michael Emenalo. By the time he left, ex-head coach Antonio Conte’s relationship with the club had broken down and his successor Maurizio Sarri often proved difficult to contact as he did not use WhatsApp. But Cech’s appointment as technical performance advisor last summer, together with Lampard’s return to the club, has helped to bring the on and off-pitch departments back together. Lampard and Cech make a formidable pair to lead talks with targets over Chelsea’s on-the-pitch aims, with Granovskaia able to concentrate more on the business side of deals, for which she is rated the best in her field. The meeting in Germany earlier this year left Granovskaia in the perfect position to strike, when Liverpool stalled over paying Werner’s release clause together with wages worth around £200,000-a-week. Werner will become Chelsea’s second signing of the summer transfer window, following Hakim Ziyech, who also fell for the Lampard-Cech charm offensive. Lampard spoke with Ziyech and kept in touch with the attacking midfielder over telephone messages during Chelsea’s negotiations over his move from Ajax in a deal worth £37m. Cech was also present in every meeting with the Morocco international and his agent. Describing his talks with Lampard, Ziyech said: “We had a few long conversations about his approach, the playing style, the club, about me personally. And later on we texted quite a lot.” The arrivals of Ziyech and Werner could coincide with the summer departures of Willian and Pedro, with Roma hoping to sign Pedro on a free transfer. Johnnyeye, Fernando, Tomo and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jason said: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/06/05/exclusive-petr-cechs-major-role-chelsea-transfers/ Frank Lampard and Petr Cech made an undercover pre-lockdown trip to Germany that helped Chelsea leapfrog Liverpool and Manchester United to convince Timo Werner to move to Stamford Bridge. Telegraph Sport can reveal that the pair gave Chelsea’s bid to sign the forward the personal touch, as they laid out their plans for how Werner will fit into Lampard’s vision for the team. It is understood that the visit from Lampard and Cech, who won three Premier League titles and the Champions League as Chelsea team-mates, hugely impressed Werner, his family and his representatives. The feeling was mutual, as Lampard and Cech were encouraged by Werner’s driven but humble character, and the trio have since remained in contact. Cech played a key role, as both Werner’s father and his agent Karlheinz Forster are not fluent in English but the former goalkeeper speaks perfect German and he was able to translate, as well as offering his own expertise. Werner was told about how Lampard wants his team to look next season and the duo talked to the 24-year-old about the winning mentality they want to breed at Stamford Bridge. Lampard had made Werner his priority some time ago and enquiries had been made before Christmas with Cech holding a first round of talks ahead of the January transfer window, but Werner did not want to leave Leipzig mid-season. Liverpool were thought to be leading the race to sign the Germany international, thanks to their charismatic manager Jurgen Klopp, while Manchester United had also shown an interest. Both clubs made personal contact before Chelsea, but Lampard and Cech proved their pulling power. The journey to Germany, which is believed to have taken place back in Chelsea’s February mid-season break before the coronavirus pandemic struck, gives an indication of the approach to transfers that Lampard, Cech and director Marina Granovskaia are taking. Granovskaia gave her full backing to Lampard and Cech making the trip, which made it clear Chelsea were prepared to meet the £53 million release clause if the player could be tempted. It also left Chelsea in an excellent position to complete the deal at a time when Werner and his agent could not travel to England because of the coronavirus restrictions and the resumption of the Bundesliga. Granovskaia had often been the lone negotiator following the departure of former technical director Michael Emenalo. By the time he left, ex-head coach Antonio Conte’s relationship with the club had broken down and his successor Maurizio Sarri often proved difficult to contact as he did not use WhatsApp. But Cech’s appointment as technical performance advisor last summer, together with Lampard’s return to the club, has helped to bring the on and off-pitch departments back together. Lampard and Cech make a formidable pair to lead talks with targets over Chelsea’s on-the-pitch aims, with Granovskaia able to concentrate more on the business side of deals, for which she is rated the best in her field. The meeting in Germany earlier this year left Granovskaia in the perfect position to strike, when Liverpool stalled over paying Werner’s release clause together with wages worth around £200,000-a-week. Werner will become Chelsea’s second signing of the summer transfer window, following Hakim Ziyech, who also fell for the Lampard-Cech charm offensive. Lampard spoke with Ziyech and kept in touch with the attacking midfielder over telephone messages during Chelsea’s negotiations over his move from Ajax in a deal worth £37m. Cech was also present in every meeting with the Morocco international and his agent. Describing his talks with Lampard, Ziyech said: “We had a few long conversations about his approach, the playing style, the club, about me personally. And later on we texted quite a lot.” The arrivals of Ziyech and Werner could coincide with the summer departures of Willian and Pedro, with Roma hoping to sign Pedro on a free transfer. Chelsea are back... Strike, Fernando, Vesper and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! DDA 9,941 Posted June 5, 2020 Popular Post! Share Posted June 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jason said: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/06/05/exclusive-petr-cechs-major-role-chelsea-transfers/ Frank Lampard and Petr Cech made an undercover pre-lockdown trip to Germany that helped Chelsea leapfrog Liverpool and Manchester United to convince Timo Werner to move to Stamford Bridge. Telegraph Sport can reveal that the pair gave Chelsea’s bid to sign the forward the personal touch, as they laid out their plans for how Werner will fit into Lampard’s vision for the team. It is understood that the visit from Lampard and Cech, who won three Premier League titles and the Champions League as Chelsea team-mates, hugely impressed Werner, his family and his representatives. The feeling was mutual, as Lampard and Cech were encouraged by Werner’s driven but humble character, and the trio have since remained in contact. Cech played a key role, as both Werner’s father and his agent Karlheinz Forster are not fluent in English but the former goalkeeper speaks perfect German and he was able to translate, as well as offering his own expertise. Werner was told about how Lampard wants his team to look next season and the duo talked to the 24-year-old about the winning mentality they want to breed at Stamford Bridge. Lampard had made Werner his priority some time ago and enquiries had been made before Christmas with Cech holding a first round of talks ahead of the January transfer window, but Werner did not want to leave Leipzig mid-season. Liverpool were thought to be leading the race to sign the Germany international, thanks to their charismatic manager Jurgen Klopp, while Manchester United had also shown an interest. Both clubs made personal contact before Chelsea, but Lampard and Cech proved their pulling power. The journey to Germany, which is believed to have taken place back in Chelsea’s February mid-season break before the coronavirus pandemic struck, gives an indication of the approach to transfers that Lampard, Cech and director Marina Granovskaia are taking. Granovskaia gave her full backing to Lampard and Cech making the trip, which made it clear Chelsea were prepared to meet the £53 million release clause if the player could be tempted. It also left Chelsea in an excellent position to complete the deal at a time when Werner and his agent could not travel to England because of the coronavirus restrictions and the resumption of the Bundesliga. Granovskaia had often been the lone negotiator following the departure of former technical director Michael Emenalo. By the time he left, ex-head coach Antonio Conte’s relationship with the club had broken down and his successor Maurizio Sarri often proved difficult to contact as he did not use WhatsApp. But Cech’s appointment as technical performance advisor last summer, together with Lampard’s return to the club, has helped to bring the on and off-pitch departments back together. Lampard and Cech make a formidable pair to lead talks with targets over Chelsea’s on-the-pitch aims, with Granovskaia able to concentrate more on the business side of deals, for which she is rated the best in her field. The meeting in Germany earlier this year left Granovskaia in the perfect position to strike, when Liverpool stalled over paying Werner’s release clause together with wages worth around £200,000-a-week. Werner will become Chelsea’s second signing of the summer transfer window, following Hakim Ziyech, who also fell for the Lampard-Cech charm offensive. Lampard spoke with Ziyech and kept in touch with the attacking midfielder over telephone messages during Chelsea’s negotiations over his move from Ajax in a deal worth £37m. Cech was also present in every meeting with the Morocco international and his agent. Describing his talks with Lampard, Ziyech said: “We had a few long conversations about his approach, the playing style, the club, about me personally. And later on we texted quite a lot.” The arrivals of Ziyech and Werner could coincide with the summer departures of Willian and Pedro, with Roma hoping to sign Pedro on a free transfer. Lamps and Cech doing bits 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 killer1257, Milan, Johnnyeye and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,186 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, Johnnyeye said: boy did we spend shit loads in those years, most of those deals were worth it it ultimately caused the big 4 (Bayern, Manure, Barca, and Real) to drive through FFP to protect their arse from completion, Shitty and PSG have been swatted for it (along with us, those are the only 3 huge spenders to try and challenge the big 4, as AC Milan have collapsed and Ajax cannot compete due to a shitty little league, look at how even Liverpool have done it (other than VVD, only reasonable buys), and are hamstrung now... Werner!) Atomiswave, Fernando and Johnnyeye 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 41 minutes ago, Vesper said: I will call it summer of 2003 or 2004 when I see other big boys brought in one £49m buy (and it is a fucking SUPERB buy, and Zyech was sorted pre- COVID) does not equal the insane sprees back in the first 2 seasons we spent £300m or so NET in just two seasons that is pretty cray So many flops there as well... Veron, Mutu, Parker, Smertin, Kezman, Jarosik... Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 36 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: How do you keep your players in FM happy? Make some as undisputed starters. Have some as clear second choices and players who can play multiple positions. Easy-peasy... Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,918 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Very curious what happens with Willian. Can 100% see José wooing him and convincing him to go there which would be annoying. Still wouldn't rule out us extending him for another 2 years or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Williand Pedro will be moved on, we have a lot of wingers now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! milka 3,393 Posted June 5, 2020 Popular Post! Share Posted June 5, 2020 Epic Johnnyeye, Tomo, Strike and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted June 5, 2020 Popular Post! Share Posted June 5, 2020 For people complaining about Werner how he is not good enough... I think he is by far the best possible option. Osimhen and Dembele would be even more expensive and Timo have much better numbers in better league. Auba would be just a short term solution. Also they are all more like Tammy unlike Timo who is unique in some ways. Icardi brings a lot of problems and Lautaro is 100m player who wants Barca. killer1257, Stats, King Kante and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: For people complaining about Werner how he is not good enough... I think he is by far the best possible option. Osimhen and Dembele would be even more expensive and Timo have much better numbers in better league. Auba would be just a short term solution. Also they are all more like Tammy unlike Timo who is unique in some ways. Icardi brings a lot of problems and Lautaro is 100m player who wants Barca. People should just listen to this podcast on our pursuit of Werner and more... https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/werner-to-chelsea-the-inside-story/id1488521447?i=1000476889309 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styl1994 188 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 I understand that some fans had dreams of Sancho but Ziyech and Werner for around the price of what Zaha would have cost I don’t see how many fans can be disappointed in that. Atomiswave and DDA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Superblue 6,372 Posted June 5, 2020 Popular Post! Share Posted June 5, 2020 40 minutes ago, Jason said: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/06/05/exclusive-petr-cechs-major-role-chelsea-transfers/ Frank Lampard and Petr Cech made an undercover pre-lockdown trip to Germany that helped Chelsea leapfrog Liverpool and Manchester United to convince Timo Werner to move to Stamford Bridge. Telegraph Sport can reveal that the pair gave Chelsea’s bid to sign the forward the personal touch, as they laid out their plans for how Werner will fit into Lampard’s vision for the team. It is understood that the visit from Lampard and Cech, who won three Premier League titles and the Champions League as Chelsea team-mates, hugely impressed Werner, his family and his representatives. The feeling was mutual, as Lampard and Cech were encouraged by Werner’s driven but humble character, and the trio have since remained in contact. Cech played a key role, as both Werner’s father and his agent Karlheinz Forster are not fluent in English but the former goalkeeper speaks perfect German and he was able to translate, as well as offering his own expertise. Werner was told about how Lampard wants his team to look next season and the duo talked to the 24-year-old about the winning mentality they want to breed at Stamford Bridge. Lampard had made Werner his priority some time ago and enquiries had been made before Christmas with Cech holding a first round of talks ahead of the January transfer window, but Werner did not want to leave Leipzig mid-season. Liverpool were thought to be leading the race to sign the Germany international, thanks to their charismatic manager Jurgen Klopp, while Manchester United had also shown an interest. Both clubs made personal contact before Chelsea, but Lampard and Cech proved their pulling power. The journey to Germany, which is believed to have taken place back in Chelsea’s February mid-season break before the coronavirus pandemic struck, gives an indication of the approach to transfers that Lampard, Cech and director Marina Granovskaia are taking. Granovskaia gave her full backing to Lampard and Cech making the trip, which made it clear Chelsea were prepared to meet the £53 million release clause if the player could be tempted. It also left Chelsea in an excellent position to complete the deal at a time when Werner and his agent could not travel to England because of the coronavirus restrictions and the resumption of the Bundesliga. Granovskaia had often been the lone negotiator following the departure of former technical director Michael Emenalo. By the time he left, ex-head coach Antonio Conte’s relationship with the club had broken down and his successor Maurizio Sarri often proved difficult to contact as he did not use WhatsApp. But Cech’s appointment as technical performance advisor last summer, together with Lampard’s return to the club, has helped to bring the on and off-pitch departments back together. Lampard and Cech make a formidable pair to lead talks with targets over Chelsea’s on-the-pitch aims, with Granovskaia able to concentrate more on the business side of deals, for which she is rated the best in her field. The meeting in Germany earlier this year left Granovskaia in the perfect position to strike, when Liverpool stalled over paying Werner’s release clause together with wages worth around £200,000-a-week. Werner will become Chelsea’s second signing of the summer transfer window, following Hakim Ziyech, who also fell for the Lampard-Cech charm offensive. Lampard spoke with Ziyech and kept in touch with the attacking midfielder over telephone messages during Chelsea’s negotiations over his move from Ajax in a deal worth £37m. Cech was also present in every meeting with the Morocco international and his agent. Describing his talks with Lampard, Ziyech said: “We had a few long conversations about his approach, the playing style, the club, about me personally. And later on we texted quite a lot.” The arrivals of Ziyech and Werner could coincide with the summer departures of Willian and Pedro, with Roma hoping to sign Pedro on a free transfer. You read this and listen to Ziyech's interview that he spoke a number of times with Lampard and compare this to recent times when Sarri said he didn't even know the club were buying Pulisic and when Barkley reportedly walked away initially because Conte wasn't prepared to speak with him first to outline his plans for him. Fernando, killer1257, Johnnyeye and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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