killer1257 3,282 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 I just realized you left out Jorginho there. Was that intentional? [emoji38] Plus him and Gallagher, we would have 8 (EIGHT!) players for 2 or 3 midfield positions. That 8 needs to be cut down to 5. Actually, I just forgot him lol. As far as I know, Gallagher will be loaned out again, but next time in Pl. This are the latest reports. I prefer having 6 players for 3 positions, especially considering RLC and Kante are injured all the time. 5 would be a little bit too low. Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Surely Barkley sold/loaned and Gallagher loaned to a PL side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Jason said: I'm inclined to agree with you because I believe consistent selection is vital to helping players form understanding and cohesion but on the other hand, Guardiola rotates a lot at Man City with the players and/or players' position and seems able to make it work. In our case, just think Lampard needs to be careful and not overdo it. Yes its all about balance. For me Pep rotates absolutely too much and then City doesnt have a standard 11 that would be ready for big games. Thats why they always crash in CL or big games in PL. But its perfect to demolish small teams because players are always fresh and Mahrez/Bernardo/Sane (or any other positoon) posses enough quality to beat those. When they face big team however, that individuality isnt enough and given they rotate too much, they dont have top chemistry like Pool does who keeps standard 11 for basicaly every match when fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, killer1257 said: Actually, I just forgot him lol. As far as I know, Gallagher will be loaned out again, but next time in Pl. This are the latest reports. I prefer having 6 players for 3 positions, especially considering RLC and Kante are injured all the time. 5 would be a little bit too low. I think Gallagher will be loaned out simply because of the number of players we currently have in midfield. 6 would still be okay, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 35 minutes ago, !Hazard! said: How about playing with Pulisic, Werner and Ziyech as the front trio and Loftus-Cheek just behind them. RLC can offer plenty of aerial threat and linkup the play I can't see Ruben being a regular starter under Lamps, as much as he's greatly improved he just doesn't have the stamina, off ball tactical astuteness (for pressing and cutting passing lanes) and intensity Frank demands. Supermonkey92 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 So I just read why he chose us. He wanted the Pool move and it was more or less agreed. Klopp said to him that he will sit on the bench and when Africa cup comes, he will be the main man.Now with Covid, Africa Cup will not happen and that is why Pool decided against him. They did not want to pay 60 mio. for a player that will sit on the bench. Klopp told him that and Chelsea came in and bought him.Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, BlueLyon said: Yes its all about balance. For me Pep rotates absolutely too much and then City doesnt have a standard 11 that would be ready for big games. Thats why they always crash in CL or big games in PL. But its perfect to demolish small teams because players are always fresh and Mahrez/Bernardo/Sane (or any other positoon) posses enough quality to beat those. When they face big team however, that individuality isnt enough and given they rotate too much, they dont have top chemistry like Pool does who keeps standard 11 for basicaly every match when fit. In regards to the Champions League, yeah, Guardiola likes to overthink things for whatever reason and throws out weird systems/formations. But domestically, he made it work when Man City steamrolled their way past everyone for the last 2 seasons. I do think Lampard needs to make sure he has our style of play (e.g. tiki taka) nailed down first and foremost (which we already kinda do but he needs to be 10000% certain about it) and from there, can work around 2-3 different systems to make that style of play effective and successful. If he starts changing our style of play from one game to another, then we are gonna have PROBLEMS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 I can't see Ruben being a regular starter under Lamps, as much as he's greatly improved he just doesn't have the stamina, off ball tactical astuteness (for pressing and cutting passing lanes) and intensity Frank demands.I see him as a starter and after playing 70 minutes, Mount will come on. RLC scores and assists too much and his dribblings and his amazing runs can destroy every team. There is a reason why he was our second best player last seasonGesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 minute ago, killer1257 said: I see him as a starter and after playing 70 minutes, Mount will come on. RLC scores and assists too much and his dribblings and his amazing runs can destroy every team. There is a reason why he was our second best player last season Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Not saying Loftus-Cheek wasn't good last season but part of the reason he was good because we were playing some shit football under Sarri. That is why it was refreshing when we saw Hazard, CHO or Loftus-Cheek be direct and take players on, rather than engage in all the senseless passing nonsense. Given we play much differently now, it will be interesting to see how he fares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jandomi10 82 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Simon Phillips @SiPhillipsSport · 6 min Chelsea STILL hold an interest in signing Kai Havertz, despite the Werner agreement. @cfbayern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 As much as the prospect of signing Havertz or Sancho is exciting, getting one of them at this point will be overkilled. We already have so many attacking players. How are we gonna fit them all in and keep them happy, even with the competition for places?! bigbluewillie and killer1257 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,957 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Maybe the club knows something more about the CHO rape situation……. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Not saying Loftus-Cheek wasn't good last season but part of the reason he was good because we were playing some shit football under Sarri. That is why it was refreshing when we saw Hazard, CHO or Loftus-Cheek be direct and take players on, rather than engage in all the senseless passing nonsense. Given we play much differently now, it will be interesting to see how he fares. I have been watching him since he was 16 years old. I know his potential and what he can play and what he can't play. Under Frank, I see him as a perfect player for his system. Tall, very physical with amazing technique and he can win tackles due to his size. We also lack goals and assists and RLC is the solution for that. And don't forget is passing. In my opinion, his passing is underrated. He may not run as much as Oscar and Mount, but he offers so much more than the other two guys. RLC is a bulldozer type of playerGesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk NikkiCFC and ulsterchelsea 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 The transfer ban has actually been a blessing for Chelsea, and came at the PERFECT time if the club was to receive one. Manager who understands it all. Squad now being shaped properly. Academy being utilised. A proper transfer strategy. Chelsea aren’t messing around anymore. ILeoniBlu, Fernando and bigbluewillie 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Milan said: Maybe the club knows something more about the CHO rape situation……. What's the latest on that anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 What's the latest on that anyway?No Updates Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Just now, MoroccanBlue said: What's the latest on that anyway? Still no news until mid June apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,913 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Sancho makes zero sense now. Spending £120m on a wide player with Pulisic, Werner, Ziyech, and CHO just doesn't seem to fit what we're doing at all. Havertz would make sense only if we sold 1, maybe even 2 midfielders. Which I can't see. bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, Jason said: In regards to the Champions League, yeah, Guardiola likes to overthink things for whatever reason and throws out weird systems/formations. But domestically, he made it work when Man City steamrolled their way past everyone for the last 2 seasons. I do think Lampard needs to make sure he has our style of play (e.g. tiki taka) nailed down first and foremost (which we already kinda do but he needs to be 10000% certain about it) and from there, can work around 2-3 different systems to make that style of play effective and successful. If he starts changing our style of play from one game to another, then we are gonna have PROBLEMS. Thats more down to PL being shit. It still is but the league at least has 2 top tier teams now. Pool was already giving them trouble in past years, but they werent consistent, however this season they have completely destroyed them. IMO a much better team compared to City from year or two ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 58 minutes ago, killer1257 said: If Lamps wants to have a three man midfield, 1 should leave and that is Barkley. If Lamps wants to play with 2 CM, three need to get sold or those players start moaning again Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk midfield controls the game, I'm sure Lampard ain't that dumb to leave us with 2 CM. 4-3-3 is the way or 4-2-3-1. But I'm gearing more towards the 4-3-3. killer1257, Johnnyeye, Supermonkey92 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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