AOIRO 64 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Kepa is worst GK in PL . We should get Onana or Donnarumma or Dean Henderson . Werner is similar playstyle CR7 . He should use LW position . Sir Mikel OBE and Fernando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 10 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: Jorginho and Kovacic are both signings that have virtually transformed a conservative team into a progressive one. We know can compete in midfield against some of elite in Europe playing progressive football. Until we sign a proper DM, our defence will be leaky. People scream for new CBs when we play with fricking Jorginho or Kovacic in holding mid. Only Bayern of the big teams fields a non typical DM and he is still extremely hard worker in defence. Other top teams have Fabinho, Marquinhos, Casemiro, Rodri, Partey. Busquets is obvious exception and never in a million years can Jorginho perform at such level, nor can we display such tiki taka possesion based football which is dead anyway these days with new tactics. Until we sign proper DM, this team wont have the balance. LB, DM and a winger (unless Werner would play on wing) are the priorities now. Even if we play double pivot, Jorginho should be sold because he is too good for bench and we would still need to bring a DM. And who knows what is going on with Kepa. He was completely done last season, but I guess one more season to give him a chance. communicate and Strike 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,125 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said: Out of curiosity, can Werner speak English? If he can't that would be highly unusual for a German. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said: My biggest worry is we do not become Liverpool with Klopp pre VVD and Alisson era. They were great offensively but conceded so much goals. If you look at this team it is clear we lack quality at CB position. We need new CB badly. I think front 4 with Werner, Puli, Hakim and RLC can work great together by switching positions all the time... I hope Kante can go back to his best form in 4-2-3-1 if not we have a lot of options there... I put Chilwell because it will most likely happen. CB aside I think we will go for 4th choice winger like reports are saying and I hope we upgrade backup keeper. Alonso will stay as backup which is good option to have because Frank likes to change formation from time to time. I think next year is a year too soon for a title challenge, even with Ziyech and Werner here we will still be that little bit too raw to take on City and Liverpool over 38 games, so for that reason i have no issue with us getting the match winners in then after that focusing on getting the gamechangers at the back. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 I like Werner but there's no way He is better than Sancho and Havertz. Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: I like Werner but there's no way He is better than Sancho and Havertz. He's good of course but it's funny how people are suddenly mentioning Havertz when he wasn't even mentioned at all before the Bundesliga resumed last month. As for the comparison between Werner, Sancho and Havertz, I guess it comes down to who is best suited for the team (that's what the article above touched on in the brief context). They may play in similar positions but they each bring different qualities. It's a case of determining who has the best attributes to complement the rest of the team and not just have some fancy for the sake of it. Fernando and Ryan Fong 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILeoniBlu 37 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 8 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: My biggest worry is we do not become Liverpool with Klopp pre VVD and Alisson era. They were great offensively but conceded so much goals. If you look at this team it is clear we lack quality at CB position. We need new CB badly. I think front 4 with Werner, Puli, Hakim and RLC can work great together by switching positions all the time... I hope Kante can go back to his best form in 4-2-3-1 if not we have a lot of options there... I put Chilwell because it will most likely happen. CB aside I think we will go for 4th choice winger like reports are saying and I hope we upgrade backup keeper. Alonso will stay as backup which is good option to have because Frank likes to change formation from time to time. Would try with Juventus for Demiral... Sarri wants Jorginho and Emerson, we ask in return Demiral and money. If they insist with Bernardeschi and De Sciglio, many greetings and goodbye NikkiCFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jason said: He's good of course but it's funny how people are suddenly mentioning Havertz when he wasn't even mentioned at all before the Bundesliga resumed last month. As for the comparison between Werner, Sancho and Havertz, I guess it comes down to who is best suited for the team (that's what the article above touched on in the brief context). They may play in similar positions but they each bring different qualities. It's a case of determining who has the best attributes to complement the rest of the team and not just have some fancy for the sake of it. Nope, i always rate Havertz as the best German talents in recent years since Gotze and he caught my attention last season when he made 20 goals & 6 assists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 9 hours ago, Costa19 said: Okey. Mostly tap-ins, penalties and runs behind the defence. Won’t get that kind of space in the PL. Would anyone actually care if Werner only scores tap-ins for us? Creating chances has not been a problem for us this season, converting those chances has been the problem. IIRC, only Liverpool and Man City have had more shots than us this season but in terms of Shot Conversion, there are like 5-6 clubs ahead of us on the list. If Werner can score at least 20 goals from tap-ins or score 20 ugly goals, we would be on the right track to achieve something. Sure, Werner will likely get less space to operate in the Premier League than the Bundesliga but people make him sound like some one trick pony. If he's a one trick pony, arguably the best club in the world right now in Liverpool wouldn't have been so keen on him. People seem to forget or not realize that, for example, he actually has good movement in the box as well and is capable of making dangerous runs in the box. When you consider Pulisic and Abraham are pretty much the only two players right now who offer that kind of quality, it is a good thing that we will have another person in the area who will look to get at the end of crosses, passes etc because the others do not make runs and prefer the ball onto their feet. And below are some stats on Werner from Sky Sports... 9 hours ago, Costa19 said: Im about to call him our new Morata. Happy to eat that up if he proves me wrong I guess I can't stop people if they want to compare Werner with Morata before he's even kicked the ball for us (he hasn't even signed yet!) but the comparison is just so lazy. For starters, I believe Werner is a lot mentally stronger than Morata will ever be. That is arguably the key attribute for any footballer and Werner has said himself that he still has a lot to improve and get better. He may struggle a little bit initially in the Premier League but I am confident that with the right mentality, patience and guidance from Lampard and co, Werner will do well for us. I 100000% doubt he will moan and complain about everything else etc like Morata did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: Nope, i always rate Havertz as the best German talents in recent years since Gotze and he caught my attention last season when he made 20 goals & 6 assists. Easy to say when he's doing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Just now, Jason said: Easy to say when he's doing well. You can found my post about him back in the jan. Supermonkey92 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,752 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 I don't think there will ever be a footballer with a weaker mentality than Alvaro Morata, ever. Supermonkey92 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: You can found my post about him back in the jan. FAKE NEWS! Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Just now, Jason said: FAKE NEWS! Jase 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,997 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jason said: And below are some stats on Werner from Sky Sports… Plus this - Werner has scored 75 goals for RB Leipzig in the league. In this period (August 2016-) only Bayern's Robert Lewandowski (110) has scored more in the Bundesliga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 He's good of course but it's funny how people are suddenly mentioning Havertz when he wasn't even mentioned at all before the Bundesliga resumed last month. As for the comparison between Werner, Sancho and Havertz, I guess it comes down to who is best suited for the team (that's what the article above touched on in the brief context). They may play in similar positions but they each bring different qualities. It's a case of determining who has the best attributes to complement the rest of the team and not just have some fancy for the sake of it.What qualities does Werner bring in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 ?I guess our squad is suited the best for those Systems Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Supermonkey92 and Costa19 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Tomo 21,751 Posted June 5, 2020 Popular Post! Share Posted June 5, 2020 10 hours ago, Costa19 said: Okey. Mostly tap-ins, penalties and runs behind the defence. Won’t get that kind of space in the PL. I've never understood this obsession with degrading tap in goals. It takes excellent tactical intelligence to find yourself in the position to score tap in's time after time, not only do you have to escape the attention of the defenders but also accurately judge when and where the ball will be played in. ulsterchelsea, mkh, Fernando and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 32 minutes ago, Special Juan said: I don't think there will ever be a footballer with a weaker mentality than Alvaro Morata, ever. Was an absolute fanny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 27 minutes ago, killer1257 said: What qualities does Werner bring in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 ? I guess our squad is suited the best for those Systems Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Inside Forward on the LW? Playing as the 2nd striker behind Abraham?? Heck, I'm even sure Lampard would try him in the No.9 role to see how it goes with players supporting him from wide areas and midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 22 minutes ago, Tomo said: I've never understood this obsession with degrading tap in goals. It takes excellent tactical intelligence to find yourself in the position to score tap in's time after time, not only do you have to escape the attention of the defenders but also accurately judge when and where the ball will be played in. Agreed,plus this thing about him doing tap ins is strange. I don't claim to have watched a great deal of him but that video of his 25 goals this season was posted and I watched that. At least 18 (including a couple of pens) were not tap ins and even the ones that were still needed a bit of work. He scored some real good goals and his pace will cause serious problems Tomo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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