OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Chance for getting to a final for silverware, don't rotate too heavily, put a good enough side out to do the job with 3 or 4 changes then depending how it is going make some changes to freshen guys up for the next games. I would imagine United will probably only change a few as well. The chance to get to a final and win a trophy is key for this group and Frank as a manager. The first trophy is always the hardest. Plus it will make the season look better. But we all know still plenty to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 4 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: Jose just said he has no idea what we or UTD need and that he is not interested in our CL place fight. Good on him for saying that united been lucky..by lucky he means the VAR calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 17, 2020 Author Share Posted July 17, 2020 Laylabelle and King Kante 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero 1,874 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 10 hours ago, Jason said: Lmao but true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Winning the FA Cup will not make a difference if we don't get CL. I don't want fans to use this trophy as an excuse for a complete shambles.If we win a trophy beating Liverpool United and City its hardly a shambles. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 39 minutes ago, Mana said: Winning the FA Cup will not make a difference if we don't get CL. I don't want fans to use this trophy as an excuse for a complete shambles. No it wont but getting a taste for trophies is also a much needed step for some of this group.... it will give some of these guys a taste of what its like to win trophies here which is essential for the likes of Mount, James, Tomori, Pulisic, Tammy, Billy etc to progress here and shape how they are as senior players/leaders in the future, as I think they will still be around 5, 6 or 7 years down the line if they keep making improvements. Its all well and good developing, becoming good players but you need to be hungry to be successful and trophies, be it FA cups or carabao cups or league titles or CLs or Super cups etc give them the experience and hopefully make them want more and the want the bigger ones. I mean Drogba, Lampard, Terry, Cole, Cech etc were all in all top players but they were winners too. Plus its always nice to get a trophy regardless. Even Sarri getting the Europa last season, we knew it wasn't the best of marriages so to speak but that trophy win brought him his first managerial trophy and this cup can be the same for Frank. It shouldnt be written off. And nobody is saying it would make up for no CL Football but it is also a step in the right direction. I am sure OGS will be telling the United boys how serious it is as well this game and that an opportunity to play in a final is big. At big clubs you want to be competitive across the board, league, CL, the cup competitions. Its no surprise the likes of Ferguson, Mourinho, Pep... some of the world’s most successful managers, have all take/taken these cups in the past seriously be it in England or Spain or Germany or Italy. All serial winners. Mana and Simon1991 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 you guys make it sound that we can choose between wining the FA Cup and gettign 4th. Even if we beat Utd in the semis which is improbable we still need to beat City in the final. And you guys know that Pep teams get in beast mode in finals. There is no chance of this happening. City have all their best players fit and wont make the mistake of playing false 9 in the final again. We should still try when we get there but tomorrow is just a semifinal. Rather exit there than in the final, so don't overcommit. If we by some stroke of luck beat Utd + the ref + VAR with a B-team we can still turn up for the final when everyone is fresh an rested. Atomiswave, BXL70 and El P. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Or Arsenal...probably wont be them but never know..odd things happen. Annoying thing.. be lose tommrow..finish 5th... Supermonkey92 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Let them have the ball, nullify their strenght. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 You just proved my point. It’s a shambles. No one really cares about the FA Cup. I still considered Conte’s 2nd season a failure even though we won it that season.That fans will use winning a trophy to argue the season wasn't a shambles? No shit! Winning trophies is literally the best sign of success lol. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 18, 2020 Author Share Posted July 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Mana said: Has Lampard put priority of winning the tinpot cup over CL? FA Cup...the tinpot cup!? Jesus fucking christ! Supermonkey92, Laylabelle, OneMoSalah and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Mana said: So tl;dr, only winning the FA Cup is still a failure, but a step in the right direction (for this squad, not the club). I can live with that. Well almost. I mean I can picture myself already us winning the FA Cup but no CL. I'll smile like for 10 minutes, then be pissed off to no man's land. Why you ask? Because if THIS squad is able to reach the FA Cup final and beat no-beach mode City...with a solid performance, then it just brings more questions than answers. Where was this performance at Anfield? Where was this performance against Wolves? Where was this performance when we got battered by Sheffield United? Liverpool and Wolves games are much bigger finals than these FA Cup games. Has Lampard put priority of winning the tinpot cup over CL? Because we're an inconsistent team, which is hardly an outrage given we have not a single world class player at the peak of his powers and training a new style of football. When you're a talented but inconsistent team then you're capable of competing with even the best sides and losing to some shit in the process. We're at a similar stage of development now as we were in 12/13 and remember how erratic that team was? Beaten at home to QPR and Swansea but also comprehensively outplayed the Champions in their own back yard twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Magic Lamps said: you guys make it sound that we can choose between wining the FA Cup and gettign 4th. Even if we beat Utd in the semis which is improbable we still need to beat City in the final. And you guys know that Pep teams get in beast mode in finals. There is no chance of this happening. City have all their best players fit and wont make the mistake of playing false 9 in the final again. We should still try when we get there but tomorrow is just a semifinal. Rather exit there than in the final, so don't overcommit. If we by some stroke of luck beat Utd + the ref + VAR with a B-team we can still turn up for the final when everyone is fresh an rested. Records are their to be broken. The same argument was made 2 years ago regarding Jose's record in finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Tomo said: Records are their to be broken. The same argument was made 2 years ago regarding Jose's record in finals. i wish. but we all know how this one will end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Arsenal has the David Luiz plan looking good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,535 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 7 hours ago, Magic Lamps said: you guys make it sound that we can choose between wining the FA Cup and gettign 4th. Even if we beat Utd in the semis which is improbable we still need to beat City in the final. And you guys know that Pep teams get in beast mode in finals. There is no chance of this happening. City have all their best players fit and wont make the mistake of playing false 9 in the final again. We should still try when we get there but tomorrow is just a semifinal. Rather exit there than in the final, so don't overcommit. If we by some stroke of luck beat Utd + the ref + VAR with a B-team we can still turn up for the final when everyone is fresh an rested. Not sure its gana be a City final...doing some funky things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 18, 2020 Author Share Posted July 18, 2020 33 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: As if that's going to make any difference... Supermonkey92 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 18, 2020 Author Share Posted July 18, 2020 @Magic Lamps You have jinxed Man City... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 Just now, Jason said: @Magic Lamps You have jinxed Man City... haha loving it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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