closed Chelsea 4-4 Ajax

[Vesper 27,310]

25 minutes ago, Henrique said:

Your biggest mistake: not respecting a Talk Chelsea living legend.

roflmaoooooo

'legend' claims when made about an internet chatboard

are the same as those made about being a 'legend' at a Brixton curry takeaway, just without the dodgy goat

[LAM09 6,547]

Avoiding defeat at Valencia is absolutely vital! If we lose there, then we must beat Lille and hope Ajax lose to Valencia (assuming Ajax beat Lille next).

Our away form has been pretty decent...

Lille could still have a glimmer of hope for EL qualification (miracles do happen after tonight) & Ajax will be without their main CB pairing. Let's hope Lille can do what they did against Valencia.

[cosmicway 1,252]

Nahh.
Europa is n't worth it.
It's obsolete.
Last year we won it after playing one and a half real matches.
In the CL we have a shot (Poketinio last year ?) and it's not all Real and Barcelona.
I watched Real on Sat -tearful- and Barcelona today did n't impress (held 0-0 by the Czechs).
But frankly I don't see how we can lose to Valencia - unless some weird things happen.

 

[Jase 43,479]

11 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Our away form has been pretty decent...

Lille could still have a glimmer of hope for EL qualification (miracles do happen after tonight) & Ajax will be without their main CB pairing. Let's hope Lille can do what they did against Valencia.

Lille are gonna need a miracle that's arguably bigger than our CL win in 2012. They need to beat Ajax and us (4 goals or more against the former + 3-2, 4-3 etc or more than one goal against us) and hope Valencia beat Ajax or us. 

[LAM09 6,547]

Lille are gonna need a miracle that's arguably bigger than our CL win in 2012. They need to beat Ajax and us (4-0 goals or more against the former + 3-2, 4-3 etc or more than one goal against us) and hope Valencia beat Ajax or us. 

As long as they believe in it, there's a chance. [emoji16]

[ZAPHOD2319 3,873]

Crazy entertaining match. Fuck Alonso, sell him now.

[Jase 43,479]

Talking about that Valencia game, it comes 4 days after we go to Man City in the league...

[Fernando 6,376]

Ajax continue to attack even after 9 men down is immense. 

I still think we got lucky, no way we come back with 11 men. 

Other then that I'm glad that we have a team that fights till the end. 

[Kicker Conspiracy 28]

 

 

I am  gutted , In one play  2 red cards and a penalty against us. 

We dominated the game and completely silenced Stamford Bridge. (Chelsea never conceded 3 goals at home in one half in a european match)

But I'm fecking proud of my team. with 9 left on the pitch, we still managed to keep a draw.

 

I read a lot of comments that Chelsea have to splash the cash after the transferban. Some never learn, Tonight you have been blown away by a team which costed less than your goalkeeper.

Chelsea has some extreme talented young players, and a coach who has tons of credit from the supporters.  Have patience and let this group mature and learn.

With a specific philosophy and a steady course, you can create a force to reckon  with.  Probably you won't win trophies immediately, but after some time you"ll  end up with great team.(its the Ajax approach).

 

 

 

 

 

[Jase 43,479]

 

[Fernando 6,376]

7 minutes ago, Kicker Conspiracy said:

 

 

I am  gutted , In one play  2 red cards and a penalty against us. 

We dominated the game and completely silenced Stamford Bridge. (Chelsea never conceded 3 goals at home in one half in a european match)

But I'm fecking proud of my team. with 9 left on the pitch, we still managed to keep a draw.

 

I read a lot of comments that Chelsea have to splash the cash after the transferban. Some never learn, Tonight you have been blown away by a team which costed less than your goalkeeper.

Chelsea has some extreme talented young players, and a coach who has tons of credit from the supporters.  Have patience and let this group mature and learn.

With a specific philosophy and a steady course, you can create a force to reckon  with.  Probably you won't win trophies immediately, but after some time you"ll  end up with great team.(its the Ajax approach).

 

 

 

 

 

In the past we spend money on duds. 

If we can spend money on top young players like Chilwell it's worth it. 

English player, young and top player. 

I think that is the type of money we should spend. 

 

[Superblue 6,331]

12 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Ajax continue to attack even after 9 men down is immense. 

I still think we got lucky, no way we come back with 11 men. 

Other then that I'm glad that we have a team that fights till the end. 

You say that but we won the penalty to make it 4-3 when Ajax still had 11 men on the pitch. The momentum was definitely swinging in our direction at that point.

I personally think Azpi's VAR goal being disallowed killed us. The whole place was rocking at that point, fans and players as one. I feel the outpouring of emotion when that goal went in, only to have it disallowed took the wind from our sails and whilst we had a few half chances we didn't really create anything more clear cut and struggled to regain the momentum fully. Full credit to Ajax for being bold and prepared to play in that situation to take the sting out of the game though.

[OneMoSalah 8,614]

3 minutes ago, Kicker Conspiracy said:

I am  gutted , In one play  2 red cards and a penalty against us. 

We dominated the game and completely silenced Stamford Bridge. (Chelsea never conceded 3 goals at home in one half in a european match)

But I'm fecking proud of my team. with 9 left on the pitch, we still managed to keep a draw.

 

I read a lot of comments that Chelsea have to splash the cash after the transferban. Some never learn, Tonight you have been blown away by a team which costed less than your goalkeeper.

Chelsea has some extreme talented young players, and a coach who has tons of credit from the supporters.  Have patience and let this group mature and learn.

With a specific philosophy and a steady course, you can create a force to reckon  with.  Probably you won't win trophies immediately, but after some time you"ll  end up with great team.(its the Ajax approach).

 

 

 

 

 

Dominated the game? Lets be honest. It was a game of 2 halfs anybody could see that. Even with 11 men in the second half we started much better despite conceding that 4th goal (poor goal to concede). Again blown away, hugely inaccurate, I said in other posts how a draw was probably a fair result but again Onana made 3 or 4 saves, where other than that superb one from Batshuayi, we would of wanted the players to have done a lot better with those opportunities. Michy and Tammy particularly had a few decent chances. Where as I can remember only one chance where Kepa had to make a difficult save in the second half.

I do agree on the point regarding giving this team time but there will be pressure on Frank and the squad to be up there and at least be competitive, we dont have the same luxuries as other clubs, weve sacked more successful, much bigger and better managers than Frank so I dont expect him to get any other sort of free passes bar this season if the transfer ban isnt removed . There is plenty talent here and we've known this for years but the expectation here will alway competing/winning trophies based on the clubs last 15 years. That wont change. Still a lot of work to be done with the team and 2 or 3 key additions in specific areas on the pitch wont hurt.

[Jase 43,479]

 

 

 

[Kicker Conspiracy 28]

Just now, OneMoSalah said:

Dominated the game? Lets be honest. It was a game of 2 halfs anybody could see that. Even with 11 men in the second half we started much better despite conceding that 4th goal (poor goal to concede). Again blown away, hugely inaccurate, I said in other posts how a draw was probably a fair result but again Onana made 3 or 4 saves, where other than that superb one from Batshuayi, we would of wanted the players to have done a lot better with those opportunities. Michy and Tammy particularly had a few decent chances. Where as I can remember only one chance where Kepa had to make a difficult save in the second half.

I do agree on the point regarding giving this team time but there will be pressure on Frank and the squad to be up there and at least be competitive, we dont have the same luxuries as other clubs, weve sacked more successful, much bigger and better managers than Frank so I dont expect him to get any other sort of free passes bar this season if the transfer ban isnt removed . There is plenty talent here and we've known this for years but the expectation here will alway competing/winning trophies based on the clubs last 15 years. That wont change. Still a lot of work to be done with the team and 2 or 3 key additions in specific areas on the pitch wont hurt.

 

objectively speaking,, i agree with you,  "dominated and blown away" isn't a correct description of the match. But the fun part of being a supporter is,  being a bit biased and subjective.

Probably a draw would be the fair result in both matches.

 

 

 

[Jase 43,479]

 

[Tomo 21,681]

46 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Ajax continue to attack even after 9 men down is immense. 

I still think we got lucky, no way we come back with 11 men. 

Other then that I'm glad that we have a team that fights till the end. 

It was 2-4 with a penalty to come Vs 11 men.

There's every chance we'd have come back.

[Kicker Conspiracy 28]

4 minutes ago, Tomo said:

It was 2-4 with a penalty to come Vs 11 men.

There's every chance we'd have come back.

Blind was fouled first, ref should have known he had no advantage from that duel and whistled there and then. But he didn’t.

Subsequently should never have been a penalty. Veltman even tries to pull his arm away. Never worth a second yellow.

The 2-4 seemed off-side, at least as if not worse off-side than Promes in the homematch.