communicate 2,703 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 8 hours ago, Fernando said: Him and kovacic where amazing at the beginning. The only problem is his stamina. Once it went we decline. Nonetheless he is still a good player to have. Those rumors with juventus are laughable. There's no good offer to sell him so he will continue to be with us in the new season. I don't think Jorginho stamina has ever been a problem Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Superblue 6,372 Posted June 1, 2020 Popular Post! Share Posted June 1, 2020 I would prefer us to keep Jorginho next season, unless he agitates for a move or we receive an incredible offer from Juventus (which I doubt in the current climate). Gilmour looks a fantastic prospect and if he continues his current development curve will have that position nailed down long term at this club. However he's still very young and inexperienced. He will suffer from slumps in form, and will also have to learn steeply when opposition managers start identifying weaknesses to his game and looking to exploit them. Having him play a more prominent role the rest of this season and next, but still being rotated with Jorginho would be the best scenario. If after that, Gilmour looks to be ready to assume that role week in, week out Jorginho can always leave then. He'd still be 29 and in the way he plays could easily play well into his 30's. Especially if he went back to play in Italy. It's also important to consider the makeup and experience within the squad. If Pedro and Willian both leave this summer, that's two of our most experienced players leaving the club. There are still a lot of young, inexperienced players in the team that will still benefit from some guidance Stats, Fernando, Vesper and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Â Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 57 minutes ago, Jason said: Â He has it more than good here Jorgo, he is loving it here. A mistake to sell him, especially to Juve cunts. Vesper, Fernando and Supermonkey92 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,219 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Atomiswave said: He has it more than good here Jorgo, he is loving it here. A mistake to sell him, especially to Juve cunts. depends what we get in return toss in Emerson (and cash if we are talking de Ligt or Dybala as their main player) and there are lots of combos to be had Matthijs de Ligt    Merih Demiral       Alex Sandro Luca Pellegrini Rodrigo Bentancur Adrien Rabiot    Paulo Dybala (only if no Havertz) Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 47 minutes ago, Vesper said: depends what we get in return toss in Emerson (and cash if we are talking de Ligt or Dybala as their main player) and there are lots of combos to be had Matthijs de Ligt    Merih Demiral       Alex Sandro Luca Pellegrini Rodrigo Bentancur Adrien Rabiot    Paulo Dybala (only if no Havertz) Yeah but ONLY in such a scenario.....they can go spit with their current offer. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,334 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 6 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: Â Juve are really taking the piss lowballing us for one of our most expensive ever signings that has only improved as a play ridiculous. After what they did to us over Sandro we should not even be listening to anything below 80m which they can not even afford in their wildest dreams. Fernando and killer1257 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,334 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Not a second game time after the break... Did he pissed off Frank with yellow cards or something? Saying this I do not think Juve will go for him after they bought Arthur. And I cannot see any other team going for him. Thesara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Not a second game time after the break... Did he pissed off Frank with yellow cards or something? Saying this I do not think Juve will go for him after they bought Arthur. And I cannot see any other team going for him. Jorgi is a strange one. Not sure what is going on with him exactly. It may just be he is not match fit. Let's see what happens with him against West Ham and Watford before drawing any conclusions. Thesara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judy 52 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Lampard not playing him is beyond embarrassing. Thesara and NikkiCFC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,959 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Judy said: Lampard not playing him is beyond embarrassing. Same with Giroud up until February. Thesara and NikkiCFC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,334 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 He is a victim of Frank who is trying to utilize his favorite players. I dont even think it is a football related decision... 0007, Thesara and killer1257 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: He is a victim of Frank who is trying to utilize his favorite players. I dont even think it is a football related decision... Yeah, that or he is banging SFL's wife or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,139 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Still no sign of him again last night, I am certain he is going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 How is he not playing? When donkeys like kante and Barkley are given free rein killer1257 and Thesara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 I don't necessarily blame Lampard for not playing Jorginho up to now. But i think questions should definitely be asked if Kante is played as a holder again when we play Watford. There was an interview he did during lockdown where he suggested he had identified a couple of areas he might look to change and try to improve and I believe Kante has been deployed in the deep midfield position in the belief to offer more defensive solidity, and that may be the sacrifice for the rest of this season to try and get the results for top 4. The three wins before last night at least gave some credibility to that assessment. I think after yesterday however it showed that Kante in that position doesn't add enough solidity to trade off losing someone who can dictate and control the game in midfield. If Kante plays, he's to the side of the deep midfielder or played in a pivot. Defensively we're a shambles. I thought our open play defending had shown signs of improvement but the last 2 games have been poor and we look like conceding every set piece against any side. We desperately need a leader in that back 4, which I hope we address in the summer. Until then however and after last night's game, I feel if we don't make top 4 we should at least go out on our sword. Attack is our only real option at present, so Jorginho or Gilmour has to play at that base, and Kovacic should be in there too. DDA and Tomo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 14 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: He is a victim of Frank who is trying to utilize his favorite players. I dont even think it is a football related decision... If Jorgo is leaving why have him on the bench? And FL def has his favourites it seems, I give him Mount but Barkely, AC etc? When FRank doesnt know his best 11 then we are fucked. Vesper and Thesara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUNZ 155 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 I can't believe anybody with a functioning brain watched that game last night and thought: 'hmm, you know what? we could really use somebody who can't run, can't shoot, creates zero chances and can't defend in this game. he would really help!'. DDA, pHaRaOn, kellzfresh and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! 0007 511 Posted July 2, 2020 Popular Post! Share Posted July 2, 2020 4 hours ago, SUNZ said: I can't believe anybody with a functioning brain watched that game last night and thought: 'hmm, you know what? we could really use somebody who can't run, can't shoot, creates zero chances and can't defend in this game. he would really help!'. Yeah, because football is only running and shooting...You basically described Barkley and he is an average footballer. Jorginho's key qualities are his movement without the ball, the sense where to position himself and the awareness how to procceed the attack even before receiving the ball.And the most important one - transitioning the ball quickly which is a consequence of the qualities above. And defending is not one of Jorginho's strengths but his average interceptions per game are the highest of all the players and he is second in tackles made, only slightly behind Azpi. Atomiswave, Vesper, Thesara and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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