Sarri But Not Sarri Thread

[Fulham Broadway 17,305]

9 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

We do have to get another goal scorer apart from striker mate. A ACM would be perfect cause we dont have 1 to give us goals.

Two striking options is ideal, but would settle for one atm. A target man which would take defenders away from Hazard, Willian etc.

Have the feeling they will sort it this month, but it depends who it is. We don't want a Morata mk 2.

[Jase 43,479]

8 hours ago, Vesper said:

 

Jody is not wrong, is he?

Don't play them in league games? Fine. Don't play them in cup games, against lowly teams? That's just nonsense.

[killer1257 3,282]

22 minutes ago, Jason said:

Jody is not wrong, is he?

Don't play them in league games? Fine. Don't play them in cup games, against lowly teams? That's just nonsense.

Our coaches are at fault. CHO played a world class pre season.He destroyed Inter and Arsenal and he was our best player against Manchester City. What did Sarri then do? He put a fucking Moses in front of CHO, so CHO could not get any play time anymore. Fucking Moses. This says a lot about the mentatlity of our coaches.

[manpe 10,861]

9 hours ago, Vesper said:

 

Well damn, shots fired  It says a lot when our former youth coach says this.

[!Hazard! 3,394]

Jody is just saying how it is. Chelsea and Chelsea managers in particular have been exceptionally bad at integrating youth into the first team and everyone on the planet knows this. No need to sugar coat it

[Fulham Broadway 17,305]

It's nothing new though. all our managers have done the same -this winds up a lot of fans  ''play da fucken yoof !''. 

it must be the boards agenda to play 'ready made' articles. With CHO and others they look at invoices profit/loss, loan potential revenue. This is always a priority consideration against success on the pitch.

[Laylabelle 9,534]

And it's something Jose once said first time round when everyone raved about the Arsenal lot.. He'd like the opportunity to play youth and all but pressure to win trophies and deliver results is there.. 

No point having a youth team if none of them get anywhere at any stage. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,305]

11 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

No point having a youth team if none of them get anywhere at any stage.

Well there is if they're loaned out and make a profit. It's business.

[Jase 43,479]

38 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

And it's something Jose once said first time round when everyone raved about the Arsenal lot.. He'd like the opportunity to play youth and all but pressure to win trophies and deliver results is there.. 

No point having a youth team if none of them get anywhere at any stage. 

Managers forever using the 'it's hard to play the kids because there is pressure to win' excuse is BS. We are a big club, aiming to win big things and that pressure is always gonna be there every season. At what point are the managers gonna play them? Are they really gonna only play them in the dead rubber games, which there will only be like 1-2 games per season? What would be the point of that? It's like Jody said above, it's basically about trust. They will not be perfect from the get-go and will make mistakes but it's about having faith in them, believing that they will make a difference etc. 

[Laylabelle 9,534]

26 minutes ago, Jason said:

Managers forever using the 'it's hard to play the kids because there is pressure to win' excuse is BS. We are a big club, aiming to win big things and that pressure is always gonna be there every season. At what point are the managers gonna play them? Are they really gonna only play them in the dead rubber games, which there will only be like 1-2 games per season? What would be the point of that? It's like Jody said above, it's basically about trust. They will not be perfect from the get-go and will make mistakes but it's about having faith in them, believe that they will make a difference etc. 

Agree with what he's said yet there doesn't seem to be that trust. Make mistakes and that seems to be limited play after that or sent on loan. Which obviously helps but if loan after loan after loan... Off elsewhere back in years.. 

And that's why I don't get the whole need experience in games argument either. Not going to get experince if not played. Especially at the moment with our play being a bit meh and results not being that amazing. Might as well try someone new and see how play under different sort of pressure. 

Hopefully the chance today will be good.. And not lose lol cause that won go down well.. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,305]

9 minutes ago, Jason said:

Managers forever using the 'it's hard to play the kids because there is pressure to win' excuse is BS

I can see why there is this fans romantic youth notion, but it's sentimental in business.

If the board have sanctioned £30m and £40m signings managers are not going to jeopardise their position by going against the grain.They want to play safe, they  have their CV and reputation to consider and also do not want to upset the Russian and the board, biting the hand that feeds them.

 

[manpe 10,861]

14 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

And that's why I don't get the whole need experience in games argument either. Not going to get experince if not played. Especially at the moment with our play being a bit meh and results not being that amazing. Might as well try someone new and see how play under different sort of pressure. 

We were saying the same thing when we were getting relegated in 2015, nothing changed. We weren't fighting for anything other than pride, this time we are fighting for top 4 so I can understand not wanting to jeopardize EPL. I personally don't consider dropping Willian as risking, rather it would help our bid for top 4 if he got benched, but I can understand Sarri's thinking and that whole experience argument and stuff.

9 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

I can see why there is this fans romantic youth notion, but it's sentimental in business.

If the board have sanctioned £30m and £40m signings managers are not going to jeopardise their position by going against the grain.They want to play safe, they  have their CV and reputation to consider and also do not want to upset the Russian and the board, biting the hand that feeds them.

 

Then why was Moses ahead of CHO when he cost peanuts and is shit? He got injured afaik and lost his place, but before he was getting game time ahead of Odoi.

[Fulham Broadway 17,305]

5 minutes ago, manpe said:

Then why was Moses ahead of CHO when he cost peanuts and is shit?

CHO was 17 at the time and Moses has years of experience. There will be exceptions

I rate Moses actually. To say he is shit is a bit disingenuous. 

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=victor+moses+best+moments+at+chelsea&view=detail&mid=BA1A41FF5A2926C6FE93BA1A41FF5A2926C6FE93&FORM=VIRE

[lucio 5,418]

38 minutes ago, Jason said:

Managers forever using the 'it's hard to play the kids because there is pressure to win' excuse is BS. We are a big club, aiming to win big things and that pressure is always gonna be there every season. At what point are the managers gonna play them? Are they really gonna only play them in the dead rubber games, which there will only be like 1-2 games per season? What would be the point of that? It's like Jody said above, it's basically about trust. They will not be perfect from the get-go and will make mistakes but it's about having faith in them, believing that they will make a difference etc. 

yeah, and if a certain manager actually made great progress in bringing through quality youth players, it would actually strengthen his position , it looks much better than getting shit results with average senior players

[DDA 9,927]

You better start Odoi today mate otherwise you best go in to hiding because I will find you and I will...