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Bringing a striker and playing Eden in his actual position will at least bring back the best of Eden. 

I mean the guy plays two best players Eden and Kante out of their position and questions whats wrong.

Simple math mate.

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Today has clearly showed the bar which Chelsea must work towards reaching. At this moment we are pretty far away but the overreaction today on this forum is incredible. Sarri has been at the club

The decline in performances is a lot down to one thing, The lack of training pitch time. He is coming in, trying to teach the squad a totally different brand of football to what the players are a

I'm telling you now, to all the SarriOut supporters.... you don't know how lucky we are to have a humble manager like Sarri... a man with principle, passion, an expansive free flowing footballing phil

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Anyone noticed that Sarri has been low-key diverting the blame all season? Every time we lose a game, he always talks about the players' poor mentality, attitude and nothing about what he did etc. If it had been Mourinho or Conte...

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2 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

you consider 2 players in the world world class that's okay. Messi doesn't even look half as dominant for Argentina when he isnt surrounded with the best players at Barcelona. Hazard's performance for Belgium either equals or  supersedes anything Messi has done with Argentina.

Messi and Ronaldo don't play with the dross Hazard has had to endure with for most of his Chelsea career.  Wait till Hazard leaves us and joins a better team and you'll quickly see what he means to this side.

Don't let your frustrations with the current state of affairs at the club make you say silly things. Hazard is demonstrably the PL's best player. 

So far, Sarri is pretty much following the Conte script of playing Hazard out of position which has coincided with drop in goals : games ratio. It's literally the same as 17/18. If Higuian is the striker we think he is, Hazard will be back ripping shit up in his natural position.

He's not better than Salah, in fact he's actually not any better than David Silva who's approaching the end of his life at City. Right now people are putting Hazard on this big fuck off pedestal once again, he's good, but he ain't that good.

There is a fucking good link up striker on the bench in Giroud that linked up pretty well with him earlier in the season, but isn't that up to Sarri again? Higuain will not mask the issues in this team, he will merely become a focal point, but a focal point is nothing without service. Our LB is shite, out number 10 is in and out, our 22 is garbage and we have midfield players without a fucking clue.

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1 minute ago, Jason said:

Anyone noticed that Sarri has been low-key diverting the blame all season? Every time we lose a game, he always talks about the players' poor mentality, attitude and nothing about what he did etc. If it had been Mourinho or Conte...

Because we all know that is true. Same players that drop in performance for two of those managers. Did it for Mourinho, for Conte and now Sarri. They will do the same for any new manager that comes in. 

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If he thinks its tough to motivate the players then maybe he should advise the club to sell some them and change the dynamic.

Some of the guys have been here for a long time with mixed levels of success. Sir Alex Ferguson was always unbelievable at breaking up a successful squad or team when the point was right. Maybe its time to consider letting a few guys go, guys whos heads are perhaps not fully in it, because we cant keep having this swapping managers but players still not being motivated. Coaches have to motivate yes but if players can only be motivated for a short spell what's the point? Their obviously not hungry or have the desire to compete year in year out. Or to push to a higher level.

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Just now, Fernando said:

We still got EL. 

Don't worry he will change some things. That talk he just gave its pretty convincing to me. 

After the Spurs game, I would have done the same. Mad at the player, but maybe you thought it was a one game. So be patience with them and give them time. I think this time is for real. 

I'll say this again. Sarri has never won a trophy in his managerial career. "We still got EL" doesn't give me any kind of confidence.

"But there's always a first time!" Fair enough, like there's always a first time for Spuds and Poch right? Nah, when we get to the EL final, THEN you can throw that at me.

Just one game? Just one game? I feel like screaming inside seriously. It's not just one game or even two.

And for the patience thing. Patience doesn't always mean "the rewards are coming". Just look at Alvaro Morata, Bakayoko, AVB and all other failed 'patience' members.

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Just now, Special Juan said:

He's not better than Salah, in fact he's actually not any better than David Silva who's approaching the end of his life at City. Right now people are putting Hazard on this big fuck off pedestal once again, he's good, but he ain't that good.

There is a fucking good link up striker on the bench in Giroud that linked up pretty well with him earlier in the season, but isn't that up to Sarri again? Higuain will not mask the issues in this team, he will merely become a focal point, but a focal point is nothing without service. Our LB is shite, out number 10 is in and out, our 22 is garbage and we have midfield players without a fucking clue.

Salah has yet to win zilch for Liverpool as their marquee player. Nothing. And you're crowning him? Are you seriously going to compare what Hazard has done for us and in the PL to what Salah has achieved? He has 4 team of the year appearances in 6 years and has multiple player of the year accolades including 2 top 2 finishes in the last 4 years.

No other PL player comes close to his records in England besides De Gea and Kane and both have 1  PL title between them. Hazard has won 2 titles, winning both as the best player in England.

David Silva? Boy, you seriously are reaching with that one. That's an embarrassing take, Juan. You're better than this.

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1 minute ago, Mana said:

I'll say this again. Sarri has never won a trophy in his managerial career. "We still got EL" doesn't give me any kind of confidence.

"But there's always a first time!" Fair enough, like there's always a first time for Spuds and Poch right? Nah, when we get to the EL final, THEN you can throw that at me.

Just one game? Just one game? I feel like screaming inside seriously. It's not just one game or even two.

And for the patience thing. Patience doesn't always mean "the rewards are coming". Just look at Alvaro Morata, Bakayoko, AVB and all other failed 'patience' members.

Well you have less patience then me. 

Because for the record I wanted to keep Conte, despite how woeful we was. I knew the problem was the same thing that Sarris is saying. 

But Conte was a fool for always having a go at the board. You can't win in this club by doing that. 

I genuinely feel that the club also want to have patience, but could not do it with the past 2 managers because of how they went about. Sarri is much easier to handle and because of that I would not be surprise that he is still here come next season. 

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6 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Because we all know that is true. Same players that drop in performance for two of those managers. Did it for Mourinho, for Conte and now Sarri. They will do the same for any new manager that comes in. 

Yeah but all too convenient of an excuse to use after a bad defeat, especially when he has pretended like his tactics, team selections haven't been the issue. It's basically him indirectly saying "It's not my fault, it's theirs". Straight out of Mourinho's playbook.

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Thing is even if finish top 4 unless something happens in the summer window or things change it'll be pointless. We can't compete and probably be back in Europa after the group stages. 

The way we've fallen. Quickly as well. Maybe a wake up call.. Probably not. 

1 shot in the last 10 ish minutes .. 60% what is the point?! 

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2 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

Salah has yet to win zilch for Liverpool as their marquee player. Nothing. And you're crowning him? Are you seriously going to compare what Hazard has done for us and in the PL to what Salah has achieved? He has 4 team of the year appearances in 6 years and has multiple player of the year accolades including 2 top 2 finishes in the last 4 years.

No other PL player comes close to his records in England besides De Gea and Kane and both have 1  PL title between them. Hazard has won 2 titles, winning both as the best player in England.

David Silva? Boy, you seriously are reaching with that one. That's an embarrassing take, Juan. You're better than this.

I'm giving big credit to Salah like he deserves, like I did with Hazard in seasons gone by. Salah was given away by this club, went away, came back has been nothing short of top class since coming from Roma, so much so Jose Mourinho has nearly cried about him in his latest interview. You mention Kane, even he's been top class the last few seasons, I mean has Hazard been outshone by both? Yes he has. I mean if we are talking consistency should he not be up there with them both? He hasn't has he?

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15 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

Salah has yet to win zilch for Liverpool as their marquee player. Nothing. And you're crowning him? Are you seriously going to compare what Hazard has done for us and in the PL to what Salah has achieved? He has 4 team of the year appearances in 6 years and has multiple player of the year accolades including 2 top 2 finishes in the last 4 years.

No other PL player comes close to his records in England besides De Gea and Kane and both have 1  PL title between them. Hazard has won 2 titles, winning both as the best player in England.

David Silva? Boy, you seriously are reaching with that one. That's an embarrassing take, Juan. You're better than this.

Tbf I dont think for Chelsea, Eden has really improved a huge deal in the last 2 seasons. He seems to have hit a wall here, a level which he's clearly content to be at, although when hes onform hes one of the best in Europe but that consistency to deliver at that level has never been there, even in title winning seasons, he still yoyos his performances a lot. Good for 2 or 3 games then average for 2 or 3. In those poor seasons under Mourinho and Conte, he was very much below average 75% of the time, which for a world class player is not acceptable. You cant always blame who he to play with, he openly admitted last season he hadn't been playing well for 3 months in the winter time. How many world class players go on a 3 month bad spell?

I really really dont think hed be any better at a Real or Barca if he was playing at his highest level like when he does here. Weird though He always seems to go up a gear for Belgium and their team is hardly that much better than ours.

No doubts about David Silva for me, he is one of the best PL players at the moment, still gutted we never got him back when City leapfrogged us to get him all those years ago. I think he'll always be quite an underrated player for non City fans but I would argue hes been one of the best PL players for a lot of years now. Hes everything Mata would of been if he could retain the ball very well under pressure. Football intelligence, great final pass, scores goals, good dribbler... under Pep hes gotten even better playing in that team as an 8 really.

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1 minute ago, Special Juan said:

I'm giving big credit to Salah like he deserves, like I did with Hazard in seasons gone by. Salah was given away by this club, went away, came back has been nothing short of top class since coming from Roma, so much so Jose Mourinho has nearly cried about him in his latest interview. You mention Kane, even he's been top class the last few seasons, I mean has Hazard been outshone by both? Yes he has. I mean if we are talking consistency should he not be up there with them both? He hasn't has he?

Hazard has been hampered by both Conte and Sarri in the last 2 seasons. Just play him in his right position and he'll be alright. He was the best player at the World Cup and arguably the best player on the planet or at worst top 2 just about a month/6 weeks ago. Then Sarri started tampering with his position like Conte did in 17/18.

Hazard has already shown many times that he doesn't have the qualities to play as a striker. He likes to drop deep to recieve the ball and run at players. Sarri has taken that away from him like Conte did last year. He was by far the best player in the PL in his correct position just a few months ago despite playing with inferior players and a new tactical system (to Salah).

If you can't see that then its your problem. But when Higuain comes back and Hazard is back in his normal position and starts balling again. Don't jump back on the Hazard train.

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Mentality my giddy aunt, take Hazard’s false 9 situation for example, who wants to be a prostitute when one’s able to win a beauty pageant? You force someone to do things he doesn’t like then don’t expect motivation.

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