Chelsea banned for TWO transfer windows

[Tomo 21,751]

3 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

The only worry I have is up front and who is going to replace (and the aim would be to improve on) the goals that Hazard brought to the team. I could cope for a season with every other position (even left back) but that one worries me. Not to forget also that one player who could have shouldered some of the goal scoring burden in RLC is out long term too. We are relying on Giroud who if he played regularly in the league would probably score 10-12 goals in all likelihood - will that be enough? Or we're relying on either Bats or Tammy to come back and blow up which from what I've seen would be unlikely and we'd be hugely fortunate if it did.

On the flip side I don't see an awful lot of options we could go for up front on the market currently. Add to this so many other teams looking to spend big potentially in the market this summer to rebuild and we may be in a better position just to stand our ground and look to rebuild next summer when hopefully less big teams are as active. That's not just up top but in other areas of our team that need addressing also.

 

I do believe all our front players will score more goals with Hazard not around, whether it will be enough over 38 games is an entirely different matter.

I know it's small sample size but if you look at the games we played without Eden these last couple of years in a lot of ways we looked a better unit (so much so I wouldn't have been THATworried about losing him had we been able to replace him). The start of last season under Conte was our best run of form all season and he didn't start in that period and you could argue a lot of our best games of Sarriball (from a collective perspective) came without Hazard playing, Arsenal at home, Burnley away and a chunk of the Europa run admitedly against shit opposition.

The ban and what I alluded to on paragraph one is why I think extending Higuain's loan is a must, despite his so so performances for us he still got us five league goals in as many months, so over a season we should be getting 10 league goals out of him minimum (you would hope more being more use to the PL) which could come very handy. Furthermore if we want to give Pulisic and Hudson significant game time, experience Infront of them is a must.

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

It's on SPEND SPEND SPEND

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

Although seemingly whilst appealing the ban we haven't asked for the ban to be frozen so as it stands out send we're still banned from transfers. Shite

[Superblue 6,372]

4 minutes ago, ulsterchelsea said:

Although seemingly whilst appealing the ban we haven't asked for the ban to be frozen so as it stands out send we're still banned from transfers. Shite

Matt Law reported earlier in the week that we don't want to request freezing the ban in case CAS reject the appeals and deem we have only done so to defer the ban. In this case I think there would be fair grounds for them to increase our ban further, hence why the appeal appears more cautious by us.

[Pizy 18,952]

29 minutes ago, ulsterchelsea said:

Although seemingly whilst appealing the ban we haven't asked for the ban to be frozen so as it stands out send we're still banned from transfers. Shite

So what's the fucking point, then!?

The cynic in me says that the club knows there will be outrage if we sell Hazard and then quickly afterwards announce that we are accepting the ban and not signing anyone this summer. They can now say "hey, we tried" and that its out of their hands.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,077]

And the slow drip, drip of information on this case continues.

We can't know definitively whether the Telegraph story about there being no request to delay the implementation of the bans is true. We do know however that none of the earlier reporting has been entirely correct. That suggests there's no reason to put a lot of faith in what the Telegraph said either. It seems Chelsea have played this one close to the chest all the way along.

The upshot is that, for now, we're still free to have fun speculating whatever incoming moves we like. That'll be good because the transfer forum has been deathly quiet for a while. Let the fun recommence. :-) 

UPDATE: it seems CAS has confirmed that we did not (yet )apply for the ban to be suspended. - Well played Telegraph.

 

[the wes 7,212]

 

[Superblue 6,372]

43 minutes ago, Pizy said:

So what's the fucking point, then!?

The cynic in me says that the club knows there will be outrage if we sell Hazard and then quickly afterwards announce that we are accepting the ban and not signing anyone this summer. They can now say "hey, we tried" and that its out of their hands.

It could be exactly for the reasons being speculated - that the club do not want the appeal to be deemed 'frivolous' and be seen simply as a delay procedure for our ban as in that way we may have the ban increased.

I cannot see CAS rejecting the appeal and increasing the ban if we haven't requested the ban to be frozen whilst the appeal is heard as that would be extremely harsh.

I would expect if we are banned from signing players this summer and then the appeal is accepted then we would have significant grounds to sue FIFA for quite a significant amount of money (prize money, potential champions league qualification this coming season, etc) which could well amount to tens of millions. 

At the moment though I agree with @OhForAGreavsie, there simply isn't enough information at the moment out there to know for sure what is going on. As much as we all like to moan, the club have officials within and external law specialists dealing with this case who are far more qualified then all of us and we just have to trust the club that they know what they are doing and are doing the best they can to (1) successfully overturn this, and (2) limit the damage the ban may cause.

[xPetrCechx 13,573]

So we asked for cancellation only?

All or Nothing?

[Fernando 6,585]

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/11736622/chelsea-appeal-fifa-transfer-ban-to-court-of-arbitration-for-sport

As it stands, Chelsea can sign players but are unable to register anyone until June 2020.

..............

I thought that was an interesting statement from skysports. 

[Laylabelle 9,536]

Either way we're serving a 2 window ban. So guess in their eyes better to get it out the way then drag it out. That and the possibility of a increase which be a bit harsh

[Pizy 18,952]

To just take it now to "get it over with" is dumb in my eyes because we'd just be giving up on the season. We would be woefully short of the quality needed to even sniff the top 4. Are the club fine with that? Their decision on whether to request the freeze will tell us.

We need to request freeze, load up on quality this summer, and then we'll be ready to serve the ban in my opinion. Sign 4-5 players and use a few who were on loan and we'd then have a squad robust enough to sustain ourselves during the ban.

[LAM09 7,062]

It seems like we won't be signing players, then.

[Vesper 30,224]

 

[Vesper 30,224]

https://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_upload/CAS_Media_Release_6301.pdf

 

Tribunal Arbitral du Sport Court of Arbitration for Sport MEDIA RELEASE

 

For further information related to the CAS activity and procedures in general, please contact either Matthieu Reeb, CAS Secretary General, or Katy Hogg, Communications Officer. Château de Béthusy, Avenue de Beaumont 2, 1012 Lausanne, Switzerland. [email protected]; Tel: (41 21) 613 50 00; fax: (41 21) 613 50 01, or consult the CAS website: www.tas-cas.org

 

FOOTBALL THE COURT OF ARBITRATION FOR SPORT (CAS) REGISTERS THE APPEAL FILED BY CHELSEA FOOTBALL CLUB

Lausanne, 7 June 2019 – The Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) has registered an appeal filed by Chelsea Football Club Ltd (CFC) against the Fédération Internationale de Football Association (FIFA). The appeal is directed against the FIFA Appeal Committee decision dated 11 April 2019 in which CFC was declared liable for violations of the FIFA Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players and banned from registering new players, nationally and internationally, for two entire and consecutive registration periods, fined CHF 600,000, issued with a reprimand and warned on its future conduct. Generally speaking, CAS appeal arbitration procedures involve an exchange of written submissions between the parties while a Panel of CAS arbitrators is being convened to hear the appeal. Once the Panel has been formally constituted it issues procedural directions, including, inter alia, with respect to the holding of a hearing. Following the hearing, if one is held (a CAS Panel may also issue a decision based only on the parties’ written submissions), the Panel deliberates and then issues its decision in the form of an Arbitral Award. It is not possible to say at this time when the Arbitral Award will be issued. CAS will not provide any further information in relation to this procedure, except to issue a Media Release announcing the Panel’s decision.

[Atomiswave 6,118]

 To me it looks like we're taking the ban on the chin basically, and the appeal is essentially to save face and a means of avoiding the admitting guilt? WTF?

[Vesper 30,224]

Just now, Atomiswave said:

 To me it looks like we're taking the ban on the chin basically, and the appeal is essentially to save face and a means of avoiding the admitting guilt? WTF?

I have been saying all along that I am sure we are worried about the bans being extended to 3 or even 4 windows. My father's barrister friend (and a massive Blues supporter) told me the this the last time I was back in London, months ago. He always laughs when I go on transfer tirades, but this time said I probably wont have to worry about this summer.

[Vesper 30,224]

5 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

 To me it looks like we're taking the ban on the chin basically, and the appeal is essentially to save face and a means of avoiding the admitting guilt? WTF?

Trust me I AM FUCKING PISSED!!!!!!

[Laylabelle 9,536]

30 minutes ago, Pizy said:

To just take it now to "get it over with" is dumb in my eyes because we'd just be giving up on the season. We would be woefully short of the quality needed to even sniff the top 4. Are the club fine with that? Their decision on whether to request the freeze will tell us.

We need to request freeze, load up on quality this summer, and then we'll be ready to serve the ban in my opinion. Sign 4-5 players and use a few who were on loan and we'd then have a squad robust enough to sustain ourselves during the ban.

That would make sense.. But so would not repeating what mistakes we've been done in the past and been warned for. This is what's pissed me off more. We had a situation with Kakuta? Got warned.. Pos ban.. Escaped and now in another situation! 

 

[Atomiswave 6,118]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

I have been saying all along that I am sure we are worried about the bans being extended to 3 or even 4 windows. My father's barrister friend (and a massive Blues supporter) told me the this the last time I was back in London, months ago. He always laughs when I go on transfer tirades, but this time said I probably wont have to worry about this summer.

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

Trust me I AM FUCKING PISSED!!!!!!

Why all this Bs then, just take the ban already and be done with it. All this CAS etc is just for show then ( if the Club knows its guilty ). You just never know with Chels do you......lets see what happens, I fully get why your pissed, the fuckers behind the scenes should get their P45's for dragging us down with this blunder, now was simply the worst moment to fuck ourselves over.....we are just not very well run, simple.