The Conte Thread

[AK-3001 286]

1 hour ago, Chelsea4 said:

What is this even? Because have a different opinion you tell me i haven't watched more than 5 games of Chelsea? I'm a Chelsea fan you clown.

Read that again.

[Tomo 21,754]

1 hour ago, LegenTerry said:

 

No doubt that we are bigger club than City but just look their transfer activities past 3,4 years and then compare it to ours. 

Yep, and look at how they have done in the league with this "incredible transfer policy" then compare it to us.

[manpe 10,861]

3 hours ago, LegenTerry said:

No doubt that we are bigger club than City but just look their transfer activities past 3,4 years and then compare it to ours. Manchester City and Manchester United have far more world class players than we have.

A lot of good this has done for them, hasn't it? With both Manc clubs failing so miserably for so long now we can make a case against those so-called world class players being world class.

[Chelsea4 1,521]

8 hours ago, AK-3001 said:

Read that again.

It literally says i haven't watched 5 games because i prefer Tuchel to Conte.

[AK-3001 286]

1 hour ago, Chelsea4 said:

It literally says i haven't watched 5 games because i prefer Tuchel to Conte.

No, try again,

[Thor 2,832]

13 hours ago, manpe said:

A lot of good this has done for them, hasn't it? With both Manc clubs failing so miserably for so long now we can make a case against those so-called world class players being world class.

Not directly speaking to you, but maybe a few of you who have mentioned City/United and their latest transfer policies I guess. 

I think the difference at the moment is, we have always tried to be quite dynamic and pragmatic ever since we got money coming into the club. City has been quite the opposite in my opinion. They tried to be the glamour club, and they brought in the glamour manager now, who is quite deadset in his ways. Though eventually, you keep stock piling talent, it catches up to the more sensible, business like approach. United were very much like that under SAF. Things changed a bit for them, and they really have gone the City route. But they too are stock piling all this talent... There is no way, you look at the teams and say we are more talented than either one of their teams. I personally think Tottenham has a better starting 11 just as far as talent goes. Our culture and approach on the field and tactically has been a good staple for us, and allowed us to stay on top even without the talent. 

If we just gave it a bit more of a push, I think we'd be back to that level where we are consistently reaching the semis or very far in the UCL. 2 world class signings would do wonders for us, and someone like an Oxlade Chamberlain. Stuff like missing out on Sanches, Rodriguez, Aurier, etc. All could have been had for decent money, and all would make a difference. 

 

I definitely think there has been a change of ambitions within the board/Roman. I don't think there is that ambition to be the best club in the world anymore. Maybe somewhat understandable as we might not have as much money, but I think if we really push, we could be right there. 

[KevinAshburner 1,270]

Man the mainstream sports news media press want Conte sacked so badly, so that they can make so many articles and posts on their shitty websites for clickbaits and clicks.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

Nothing worth a mention from his latest press conference, I think. Everyone is fit and ready to play, except Hazard.

[TheIceMan 596]

On 23.08.2017 г. at 0:47 PM, Chelsea4 said:

Obviously i prefer Tuchel. I want to see a Chelsea team play attractive football and not park the bus againts Tottenham.

 

On 21.08.2017 г. at 0:47 AM, Chelsea4 said:

ANTONIO ANTONIO ANTONIO

 

[manpe 10,861]

10 minutes ago, TheIceMan said:

 

 

Think he just misspelled THOMAS THOMAS THOMAS

[xPetrCechx 13,598]

Antonio Conte urges Chelsea to bring in reinforcements as he states: 'I can't win the league with only 11 players'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/~/article-4824518/index.html

[OhForAGreavsie 6,128]

On 24/08/2017 at 0:31 PM, Special Juan said:

Nobody knows exactly who's a target of the board/Conte, so it's difficult to say on that.

Going to back to challenging and elite players it's like this for me. Willian and Pedro are brilliant squad options but what we should be aspiring to is breaking the bank for players like Ousmane Dembele so that players like Willian become a great back up. What the club are supposedly doing with the Oxelaide Chamberlain situation is upgrading on Moses and Moses then becomes a very good bench option to the Ox, the squad then becomes fatter and we can compete on more levels.

I completely agree in principle, but would add a note of slight disagreement.

What you say here makes perfect sense to us. Not because we are football geniuses, although we are of course , but because it's a statement of the obvious. It's obvious to you, it's obvious to me, and it's obvious to every member of the board. I know some views expressed around here make it sound like Chelsea's executives can't tie their own shoe laces, but no one can really believe that. These people can't, on average, be any less bright than the average poster here. Yet, they have not been able to do what obviously needs to be done. There has to be a reason for it.

If there were an unlimited budget available, if the owner was willing to spend it, if we could attract all the players we wanted, and if the money could persuade their clubs to sell, then why wouldn't the board just hoover up all the quality and the trophies that go with it? Clearly there are limitations on the budget, on the willingness of other clubs to sell to us, and on the attractiveness of our club to players of the highest calibre. For example, according to a 2016 story, Ousmane Dembele's agent says his client turned us down in summer 2015. He said that Dembele's dream was to play for Barcelona and that he saw Dortmund as the perfect place to develop. I've been dreaming of our club signing this player since I first became aware of him a little before Christmas 2015 but the board has to deal in realities, not dreams.

These days, I'm dreaming of Chelsea signing another Dembele. This one plays for Celtic. He's only 14 but he looks to me to be a very special player in the making. If that assessment is right, Barca will want him too and I'll be left to dream on once more. The world in which Chelsea operate is real, not ideal.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,128]

On 23/08/2017 at 10:47 AM, Chelsea4 said:

Obviously i prefer Tuchel. I want to see a Chelsea team play attractive football and not park the bus againts Tottenham.

You seem to me to believe in fairy dust. Look what happened when Andre Villas Boas tried to play the right kind of football with a squad that lacked the talent to do it, and look what happened when Robbie Di Matteo adopted the pragmatic approach required to cover up that squad's deficiencies.

You are not alone, we all want to see our team play that football, but we live in a world where Joseph Heller's paradox bites. Any fool can set up to play the way you, me, and millions of others would like us to, but Chelsea can't hope to win playing like that. We don't have the players to do it, and we can't attract those players because, among other reasons, we don't have a reputation for playing that way.

If those other reasons prevent this being a true catch twenty-two situation, it's probably not much less than a catch twenty-one and a half.

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2 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

You seem to me to believe in fairy dust. Look what happened when Andre Villas Boas tried to play the right kind of football with a squad that lacked the talent to do it, and look what happened when Robbie Di Matteo adopted the pragmatic approach required to cover up that squad's deficiencies.

You are not alone, we all want to see our team play that football, but we live in a world where Joseph Heller's paradox bites. Any fool can set up to play the way you, me, and millions of others would like us to, but Chelsea can't hope to win playing like that. We don't have the players to do it, and we can't attract those players because, among other reasons, we don't have a reputation for playing that way.

If those other reasons prevent this being a true catch twenty-two situation, it's probably not much less than a catch twenty-one and a half.

Actually we play decent football last season, some of the goals from hazard and the combination play were brilliant. We are also a few teams in the league where we try to build from the back.

But we don't have to play that way every game, against spurs without any playmaker we have 0 chance keeping possession

 

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"I can't win the title with 11 players" - Antonio Conte sends strong message to Chelsea board over lack of signings

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/antonio-conte-chelsea-board-signings-11058236

[Antonio8 736]

abram wants conte to resign

but without conte and with a squad of 13-15 players 

the 10th place will be a sweet remember 

 

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

Can we sack him already ? Clearly not here long term judging what he's doing with our youth players. Would get here Candreva, Llorente, Marchisio if he has his say. Just get over it and find somebody who cares about long term future of this club.

Fucking knew that he's Mourinho with different spelling.

[pHaRaOn 2,131]

Lol. People still believe in "long term" at top-clubs.

[Barbara 15,149]

I believe that maybe Conte brought in Christensen so he could move Azpilicueta to the wing.
There's no way he can do worse than Moses... So as we have depth in defense, maybe when Cahill is available we'll play him, Luiz, and Rudiger in the back and Azpili and Alonso in the wings. That's much better than any formation that includes Moses. And Conte seems to like Andreas, so maybe if he shows something nice he can even replace Cahill. I still believe RWB and another AM should be our main targets in the remaining days of the window

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Just now, Barbara said:

I believe that maybe Conte brought in Christensen so he could move Azpilicueta to the wing.
There's no way he can do worse than Moses... So as we have depth in defense, maybe when Cahill is available we'll play him, Luiz, and Rudiger in the back and Azpili and Alonso in the wings. That's much better than any formation that includes Moses. And Conte seems to like Andreas, so maybe if he shows something nice he can even replace Cahill. I still believe RWB and another AM should be our main targets in the remaining days of the window

It is tempting to play azpi as rwb but i personally prefer moses there.

Moses final ball is horrendous but clearly he is more of a winger than azpi and he can attack defender one on one which is a major requirement playing as wb.