The Conte Thread

[Pizy 18,402]

1 hour ago, milka said:

 

This graphic infuriates me. Two clubs that appointed a top manager just like we did, but they've each shown huge ambition and went out and signed every single target their managers wanted. We've spent less than half what those two have and are days away from missing out on almost all of our managers targets.

 

[Tomo 21,733]

6 hours ago, Muzchap said:

To be fair Watford and WH are hardly yardsticks - WH are dire with 3-4 of their decent players missing... 

Our defence against City is what worries me - they will tear us open  

ivanovic is either CB or on the bench - he's just not quick enough now for FB position and is always caught in the wrong place. Cahil is also shaky, so Iva and Terry until Zouma returns....

Well we shipped 6 in 4 against the same teams last season so 2 in 2 is already an improvement.

I think people underestimate the difference Kante makes, he will help us control games more and the amount of times he cuts balls out before they can get to our defense is unreal.

[killer1257 3,282]

23 minutes ago, Tautvix said:

Lol this made my day  

What makes you believe we could have bought him this summer??? The same thing that happened to Stones last summer, happened to Koulibaly,Romagnoli and Naingollan this summer. So wait a minute, Jose also had unrealistic targets last season like Stones???

New coach, same old problems because the problem is not the coach, it's the board.

Last year,Everton said that Stones in not for sale.After playing a shit year at Everton,Everton would of course sell Stones to the club that gives them the most money.City bought Stones for an big amount of money.Last year,Pogba did not want to leave.According to Pogba´s agent,Chelsea bid around 90 millions,but neither Juventus wanted to sell Pogba nor Pogba wanted to leave.That was a unrealistic target.

We could have gottenStones if we really wanted him,but Naingollan did not want to leave,Koulibaly and Romagnoli are not for sale,so that are targets that cannot be bought for any price.Don´t waste any time on unrealistic targets.

 

[Pizy 18,402]

4 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Well we shipped 6 in 4 against the same teams last season so 2 in 2 is already an improvement.

I think people underestimate the difference Kante makes, he will help us control games more and the amount of times he cuts balls out before they can get to our defense is unreal.

He'll make a huge difference especially against the smaller sides. Even with him in our team I think we'll struggle against the United/City/Arse/Spuds/Liverpool's of the league because he'll have to pick up so much slack due to Matic and Cesc being woeful.

Lets see what happens when world class players are pressing r midfield and breaking through to our defense. Might not be pretty.

[Tautvix 1,321]

8 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

Last year,Everton said that Stones in not for sale.After playing a shit year at Everton,Everton would of course sell Stones to the club that gives them the most money.City bought Stones for an big amount of money.Last year,Pogba did not want to leave.According to Pogba´s agent,Chelsea bid around 90 millions,but neither Juventus wanted to sell Pogba nor Pogba wanted to leave.That was a unrealistic target.

We could have gottenStones if we really wanted him,but Naingollan did not want to leave,Koulibaly and Romagnoli are not for sale,so that are targets that cannot be bought for any price.Don´t waste any time on unrealistic targets.

 

Well unrealistic targets became realistic for Man Utd and City... I just hope we don't become Arsenal because every class player is also unrealistic target for them.

[killer1257 3,282]

Just now, Tautvix said:

Well unrealistic targets became realistic for Man Utd and City... I just hope we don't become Arsenal because every class player is also unrealistic target for them.

Maybe because they waited one season and met the asking price of the selling club.

I am quite sure that Napoli will sell Koulibaly for 60 mio. next season

[Fernando 6,479]

Antonio Conte does not expect Chelsea to land first-choice transfer targets

• Italian frustrated in attempts to bolster squad 
• He could move for Fiorentina’s Marcos Alonso

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/aug/26/antonio-conte-does-not-expect-chelsea-to-land-first-choice-transfer-targets

[Tomo 21,733]

19 minutes ago, Pizy said:

He'll make a huge difference especially against the smaller sides. Even with him in our team I think we'll struggle against the United/City/Arse/Spuds/Liverpool's of the league because he'll have to pick up so much slack due to Matic and Cesc being woeful.

Lets see what happens when world class players are pressing r midfield and breaking through to our defense. Might not be pretty.

We wont struggle vs Arsenal, even last season they created nothing against us.

Also did Antonio say first choice transfer targets or targets full stop? If its the former I'm guessing Maskimovic will be the one we try and get now.

[Pizy 18,402]

3 minutes ago, Tomo said:

We wont struggle vs Arsenal, even last season they created nothing against us.

Also did Antonio say first choice transfer targets or targets full stop? If its the former I'm guessing Maskimovic will be the one we try and get now.

As usual, Chelsea TV was having issues so I couldn't actually watch the presser, but judging by the quotes I think he's saying his top choices may not be attainable. Let's hope Maksimovic happens.

[J.F. 1,484]

12 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Antonio Conte does not expect Chelsea to land first-choice transfer targets

• Italian frustrated in attempts to bolster squad 
• He could move for Fiorentina’s Marcos Alonso

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/aug/26/antonio-conte-does-not-expect-chelsea-to-land-first-choice-transfer-targets

Then finally give a youth players some decent chance and stop buying mediocre players

[Fernando 6,479]

2 minutes ago, J.F. said:

Then finally give a youth players some decent chance and stop buying mediocre players

When you get managers like Mourinho and Conte who are not good for youth, then you will get little done....well to be fair Conte might a bit better then Mourinho in that situation. 

But you need to get managers like Pochetinno for that. 

[Alan Partridge 1,124]

Well that's not good news! Like I said expect another window like before where we were linked to top players and end up with merieles. Stop gaping will not work! Our defense is terrible and we won't keep clean sheets. 

I doubt we can make it until Jan being in a decent league position. Clubs don't even want to sell in Jan, this window was the best time to do business 

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Didn't watch the PC but I read the quotes and I got a lot of 'Wenger' vibes from them. I hope that he and the club aren't getting their excuses in early for us failing to get top 4 this season. 

[Pizy 18,402]

4 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

Didn't watch the PC but I read the quotes and I got a lot of 'Wenger' vibes from them. I hope that he and the club aren't getting their excuses in early for us failing to get top 4 this season. 

Whereas Wenger is an old, stubborn fool who never seems to have plans in place in the transfer window, Conte has known for a while what's he's wanted to bring in and makes it sound like the club aren't able to. Wenger needs to be slapped in the face with a couple of poor results and a slow start each season before he realizes he needs to reinforce.

I feel like our club genuinely believe that Conte is a miracle worker and can simply reinvigorate the players we have and get top 4. Just like they did last summer with Mourinho.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

Meh, if this is how it's going to be done I hope he leaves soon. For his own sake.
Waste of a wonderful coach at this club.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

1 hour ago, Fernando said:

Antonio Conte does not expect Chelsea to land first-choice transfer targets

• Italian frustrated in attempts to bolster squad 
• He could move for Fiorentina’s Marcos Alonso

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/aug/26/antonio-conte-does-not-expect-chelsea-to-land-first-choice-transfer-targets

We really must be brain damaged if we go for a Fiorentina player. As if they would even consider making business with us after the Salah fiasco.

[Fernando 6,479]

3 minutes ago, Blue_Fox_ said:

Meh, if this is how it's going to be done I hope he leaves soon. For his own sake.
Waste of a wonderful coach at this club.

He might resign after the end of season if the club continues with it's shenanigans. 

He left Juventus for this, why he should put up with something worse? 

[CHOULO19 24,332]

51 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Whereas Wenger is an old, stubborn fool who never seems to have plans in place in the transfer window, Conte has known for a while what's he's wanted to bring in and makes it sound like the club aren't able to. Wenger needs to be slapped in the face with a couple of poor results and a slow start each season before he realizes he needs to reinforce.

I feel like our club genuinely believe that Conte is a miracle worker and can simply reinvigorate the players we have and get top 4. Just like they did last summer with Mourinho.

Regardless of how much blame Antonio himself shares in this, he will be the one to bare most of the consequences.