The Mourinho Thread

[Fernando 6,451]

I don't mean Mata per se, in previous years the one thing most off us has wanted is the manager having the main say and building his squad.

Now that's happening and some now don't want that after all.

Okay yes I agree.

Was just saying that using Mata was a bad example.

I still think this is a good deal. Although i wish it was not United but we couldn't have gotten a better value somewhere else.

We can use that money to buy Salah and maybe a striker like Costa. Would be a good transfer business.

Mourinho is a very smart manager.

[The_Flash 1,144]

With Willian and Oscar playing so well people would be annoyed if he didn't pick them say if he 'liked mata', they are scoring and helping us, there is no argument to play Mata

[The Chels 2,502]

I don't mean Mata per se, in previous years the one thing most off us has wanted is the manager having the main say and building his squad.

Now that's happening and some now don't want that after all.

I think most have come to the realisation that Mata is (/was) not going to be part of Mourinho's plans, and that selling him would be inevitable. But selling him to United, our biggest domestic rival this past decade, may very well awake the 'sleeping giant' which could be to our detriment in the forthcoming seasons. Selling him abroad would have been much more tolerable for the majority of fans, I suspect.

[lionsden 4,689]

I predict tomorrow when Manchester United announce Mata, there will be a lot of turmoil in this thread.

Before that happens, I will say this: when Guardiola was first announced manager of Barcelona, he sent the entire club's fan base into a frenzy when he declared Deco, Etoo, and Ronaldinho's time was over at the club and they weren't part of his plans. Those were still the 3 best players of Barcelona and everyone thought the manager had gone mad. It turned out that such a bold and defiant move eventually opened room for other less known players of the squad by the names of Xavi, Iniesta and Messi to come into light.

Even though this is a completely different situation, my point is that some managers know exactly what they're doing.

Personally I will wait and see.

Except those players were all past their prime when he sold them especially deco and ronaldinho. mata is still in his prime. some would even argue that he's just approaching his prime and can only get better. apples and oranges.

[Kezza 1,965]

I can't believe Mata is not begging to stay

Why would he? He needs game time in order to play in the world cup. Del Bosque ain't gonna choose players who sit on the bench at their respective clubs. As we have seen with Torres

[The_Flash 1,144]

He wasn't getting picked even when he was playing

[lionsden 4,689]

I can't believe Mata is not begging to stay

Stay to do what? warm the bench and continue to withstand the humiliation.

[HD3D 1,038]

Except those players were all past their prime when he sold them

You're saying that in hindsight. At that time the average Barcelona fan didn't agree with that one bit.

Also, the "apples and oranges" part tells me you didn't even bother to read my post entirely.

[lionsden 4,689]

You're saying that in hindsight. At that time the average Barcelona fan didn't agree with that one bit.

Also, the "apples and oranges" part tells me you didn't even bother to read my post entirely.

Deco was already 30 when he left barca and Ronaldinho, even though, younger than deco, had become distracted by non footballing activities such as partying and drinking, battled with weight issues which saw a dramatic decline in his performance way before pep even took over and Eto'o was widely reported to be a poisonous influence in the dressing room who constantly undermined Guardiola (even if he wasn't totally past his prime, that's a very good grounds for dismissal).

Mata's case is completely different here.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Selling Mata isnt 'wrong'. I am sad because I like him and its terrible to see him leaving. But its obvious when such great player isnt given play time.

But selling Mata to United, fucking rival?!?!

That is fucked up. Wrong wrong wrong. We are not getting Rooney or £50mio in return. When you sell to rival, the price is heavily inflated.

But you say its good because we get 35mio? Well then do something with that money; maybe buy a striker? Or is it so hard to wait till summer? I dont care if we sell him for 5mio less to non-rival...

Amazing how Mourinho fucked him up and now about to sell him to United.

[communicate 2,703]

One think I will say about Mourinho regarding mata is that I wish he can find a way to make it work but because we are Chelsea and we can buy almost anybody, he can replace him with player that fit his system better.

If he is managing teams like Milan or Arsenal, I am not sure it is going to be the same.

[ZOS 580]

I predict tomorrow when Manchester United announce Mata, there will be a lot of turmoil in this thread.

Before that happens, I will say this: when Guardiola was first announced manager of Barcelona, he sent the entire club's fan base into a frenzy when he declared Deco, Etoo, and Ronaldinho's time was over at the club and they weren't part of his plans. Those were still the 3 best players of Barcelona and everyone thought the manager had gone mad. It turned out that such a bold and defiant move eventually opened room for other less known players of the squad by the names of Xavi, Iniesta and Messi to come into light.

Even though this is a completely different situation, my point is that some managers know exactly what they're doing.

Personally I will wait and see.

but he didn't sell them to RealMadrid, now did he?

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

but he didn't sell them to RealMadrid, now did he?

He might have if they offered £37 million...

[GZ25 45]

Haha so true!

And what does this say about Mourinho's power and popularity at Chelsea?

If, say, Rafael Benitez had a ) decided to sell Mata and b ) decided to sell him to Manchester United, there would have been mutiny and marches along the King's Road.

Mourinho's word is law and accepted on trust. He is the untouchable one.

Whether he has made the right move in sanctioning Mata's sale to Manchester United remains to be seen.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/25854919

[BleedsBlue 1,549]

Mata for 37m means that Rooney deserves to be priced for no more than 20m.

[Roquila 1,335]

Mou said that if Mata wants to leave he has to tell me that he wants to go to United. So who is making the decision now? Mata or Mou? Lets make it simple for extra thick plastic.


You have a pretty girlfriend.

Your family likes your girlfriend.

You don't like her as much as you used to like her.

You want to keep her.

She wants to leave you for a guy you hate.

Your family is blaming you that SHE left you.

Clear now?

[The only place to be 11,313]

I like this move because it says one thing - At Chelsea, Mourinho is lord god almighty and the rest of ya'll can go fuck yourselves.

This is Mourinho showing just how big his balls are. Fair play to him. We've wanted a manager who actually led this club for years, rather than just some temporary custodian waiting for a pay-off (and I would even include King Carlo in that - except for the pay off bit - who, despite him being a fucking great manager never really changed the identity of the club that much from what Jose established).

This season Jose has set about creating a new identity for this club on the pitch and reinvigorated the club. The bad feeling that was here just 12 months ago has evaporated and we have someone in the dugout that we love.

We'll miss Mata but this could be the moment that we look back on in decades to come as the moment we finally found a leader to take us to that next level.

[Radu Cristian 4]

Mata will complete his £37million club-record move from Chelsea to Old Trafford today. And Blues boss Mourinho will use some of that cash to try to grab £24m-rated French star Griezmann.

Source: The Sun