The Mourinho Thread

[MefiX19 1,092]

What stability are people talking about here? Stability of being bottom half of the table and few points from religation zone? Or losing every game? Stability of 3 wins in a row and then going back to 7 matches losing?

New team for Mou? He builded a new team already! He brought players who performs very very good in first months and then Mou destroys them like he did with Costa, Fab, Oscar, Matic and others. Look at oscar, he played really well in his first season, and then he is done. Look at Costa with Fab, they played really wel in the start and now every player are better then they.

He sold Mata, KDB, Lukaku, Bertrand because they didn't want to track back, to be second defenders, and now they are one of the best players in PL. People forgegt that they are still young and they are still developing (except Mata).

Why he didn't play Remy when costa is dog shit? Where's RLC's minutes? Ohh i forgot he got 45 against villa! Why Iva is still playing istead of baba (who is still young and developing) Why any of our academy players are not playing? We have tons of really good players in academy, Bayern, Barca, City, MU, Juve, PSG are intresting in them, but we never gonna use'em with our current manager.

I still don't get why people love Mou so much? Yeah he bringed sucess to Chelsea, but mainly that was Roman's money. People always give credits to Mou when we win something, but always screws players when things are bad.

Why we should change 20 mens instead of one?

[Clockwork 1,794]

It's weird we are a legit regulation threat, so we probably won't see many youngsters given a chance and build for the future. Disappointing to miss top 4 and not see youngsters development. Kinda the worst of the worst.

[didierforever 7,349]

Right, and if a new manager pulls an AVB and drops 3-4 players from the XI, pisses them off, and tries formations they don't like we'll be near the relegation zone AND have a squad of players in revolt.

It can certainly get worse then it is now. Don't think we're at rock bottom yet.

if someone does an avb and drops cesc, costa, iva, JT, oscar forever, it would do nothing but make us a 100 times better.

this is not rock bottom. it is 50 feets below rock bottom. we have no identity. we have no attacking play. any formation cant possibly be worse. also, fuck the players. we had DD, lamps, JT, cech, ash who were legends and a massive spine of our team.

who the fuck are these no good spineless cunts to create a revolt?

[The Power 147]

Agreed, a new manager who drops the experienced guys who don't give a shit and plays guys like RLC... You would think that we would be playing much better than we are now. There is no killer instinct, nobody in midfield who can step up and take long shots, we're not passing the ball around with enough quality and quick enough and we're not creating enough chances. Mourinho built his squad, won the title but now he has failed.

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

I think that his character does't allow him to stay at one place for a long time...

[Tomo 21,733]

People always love to bring up Mourinho selling Lukaku, Mata, Luiz this season, in such a convenient time when we are doing awful. Last season, Lukaku Mata Luiz were not part of the team but I barely heard any mention of them when we were top of the league. Bringing them up at this moment of time is irrelevant.

Exactly, KDB was a mistake but its laughable when the rest of them are brought up.

Lukaku, despite being in the form of his life can only get Everton to 10th.

Mata has been bang average for years and Schurrle has been awful ever since the world cup, yet apparently if those two were still here we would be so much further up the table

[CHOULO19 24,332]

You drink it, because tuere are children around the world who would give their life for it.

My mom used to say that (obviously not about stale milk but something like "finish your plate, there are kids starving in Africa..") and I always thought: and how exactly does me feeling stuffed to the point of sickness help these children?!

[Stats 7,059]

Exactly, KDB was a mistake but its laughable when the rest of them are brought up.

Lukaku, despite being in the form of his life can only get Everton to 10th.

Mata has been bang average for years and Schurrle has been awful ever since the world cup, yet apparently if those two were still here we would be so much further up the table

Well, that is harsh. Lukaku has been excellent and it is not as if Everton are far from 4th spot. They are only 6 points of it. 1 win could bring them all the way to 5th on Saturday. And let's be honest, I think Lukaku would be doing much better than Costa has been doing this season,

[LukakutoStamford 779]

Amazing how so many believe it it raining when it's just Mourinho pissing on you.

The fact that some of you still can't see through his bullchit screams the Emperor's New Clothes.

The team is falling apart because he has poisoned the well just like he did at Real Madrid and because Mourinho has no clue how to build a club.

Not sure how this so hard for some to see but the longer this goes on the more likely Chelses will get relegated.

[kmk108 1,186]

Yesterday was awful.

I don't know why I suspected any different. Leicester are top of the league for a reason. This result was always the most likely outcome.

But it was a pathetic performance by the team. Aside from the goal, there was barely a threat from the attack. It's getting harder and harder to justify not starting Remy.

It was such a pathetic effort all around the pitch. In order to keep from losing it, I just laughed at the effort. Bad passes out from the defense, poor marking from the defense, an in effective midfield that could only work the ball sideways, and when it was played forward, the forwards were unable to do anything with it. Absolutely gutless from this team and every single one of them should be ashamed of the effort put in.

Jose, though culpable for the tactics from the beginning at least tried to make a go of it by putting 3 at the back, but it's broken. This whole team is broken and it's not going to be repaired by a stroke of miracle genius. It is going to take time to recover from this.

I don't know what it is. The tactics are bland. The team looks like they couldn't be arsed to intelligently think about their actions. The only person who seems to visually care about what's going on is Abramovich in the stands. Very few of the players on the team deserve to have the Chelsea crest on their shirts. FFS, get the youth who actually care in. It can't be any worse. I don't care if this isn't ideal for them to succeed. Showing faith in them is a big enough boost to make them care more than the pathetic sacks of shit that is trotted out on the pitch every weekend.

A lot needs to be done before February of anything other than a 0-6 aggregate is going to happen.

[coolhead23 1,146]

Exactly, KDB was a mistake but its laughable when the rest of them are brought up.

Lukaku, despite being in the form of his life can only get Everton to 10th.

Mata has been bang average for years and Schurrle has been awful ever since the world cup, yet apparently if those two were still here we would be so much further up the table

I would like to see it in a different way ...

Put Lukaku in the current United or Arsenal or Chelsea team and surely he would be part of a team which will have a better standing ...

Same goes with all the other players who have had a mention ... All these players werent superstars but I believe they were those key ones who can possibly make other look like superstars. Squad players who bind the team.

Someone mentioned that we are only bringing this up this season ... I dont think so, this was discussed even last season ... any player that has potential and he does good for the other team, he will always be talked by the fans in good times or in bad times (more during the bad times)

[kmk108 1,186]

Amazing how so many believe it it raining when it's just Mourinho pissing on you.

The fact that some of you still can't see through his bullchit screams the Emperor's New Clothes.

The team is falling apart because he has poisoned the well just like he did at Real Madrid and because Mourinho has no clue how to build a club.

Not sure how this so hard for some to see but the longer this goes on the more likely Chelses will get relegated.

It's crazy to assume this is all Jose's fault after yesterday. Regardless of what's going on behind the scenes, it's the players jobs to go out there every match and play at a high level. This is far worse than poor tactics and comments by Mourinho. These players aren't even playing for themselves. They're playing for nothing.

That's not to say Jose isn't at fault but I can't believe that a team with this talent could be at the bottom of the table if they were actually trying to play.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Exactly, KDB was a mistake but its laughable when the rest of them are brought up.

Lukaku, despite being in the form of his life can only get Everton to 10th.

Mata has been bang average for years and Schurrle has been awful ever since the world cup, yet apparently if those two were still here we would be so much further up the table

United fans having the same issue after Rio and Scholes said their sold XI is better than their current. It's true but context is needed. They brought up Nani.. This guy hadn't put in a consistent performance in years, Van Persie was clearly on the decline and was time to cash in etc.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Why don't we go further and say 'how dare we sell Robben '

Edit: That's not to exonerate Mourinho from his personal failures with this squad, tactically or personnel wise. But he can only be blamed for so much..

[Tomo 21,733]

Well, that is harsh. Lukaku has been excellent and it is not as if Everton are far from 4th spot. They are only 6 points of it. 1 win could bring them all the way to 5th on Saturday. And let's be honest, I think Lukaku would be doing much better than Costa has been doing this season,

Maybe was a bit harsh, but the point is I can't see how much better we would be doing with Lukaku, maybe a couple more goals, but this team is struggling even Aguero wouldn't score much.

The main point is however, Its not selling these players that created a problem, swap Hazard, Oscar, Cesar and Costa for Mata, Schurrle,(or even KDB for that matter) Bertrand and Lukaku and things won't suddenly be different or better.

[Tomo 21,733]

I would like to see it in a different way ...

Put Lukaku in the current United or Arsenal or Chelsea team and surely he would be part of a team which will have a better standing ...

Same goes with all the other players who have had a mention ... All these players werent superstars but I believe they were those key ones who can possibly make other look like superstars. Squad players who bind the team.

Someone mentioned that we are only bringing this up this season ... I dont think so, this was discussed even last season ... any player that has potential and he does good for the other team, he will always be talked by the fans in good times or in bad times (more during the bad times)

The only sold player really spoke about last season was KDB, the rest have only really cropped up this season.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

I would like to see it in a different way ...

Put Lukaku in the current United or Arsenal or Chelsea team and surely he would be part of a team which will have a better standing ...

Same goes with all the other players who have had a mention ... All these players werent superstars but I believe they were those key ones who can possibly make other look like superstars. Squad players who bind the team.

Someone mentioned that we are only bringing this up this season ... I dont think so, this was discussed even last season ... any player that has potential and he does good for the other team, he will always be talked by the fans in good times or in bad times (more during the bad times)

You say that, but look at Martial at United. They're having a right go at Van Gaal for relying on a 19-year old for goals. If Lukaku hadn't started scoring quickly and frequently, we would've seen a similar effect. As Tomo said, most of the mentioned players have only stepped up this season.

[Tomo 21,733]

You say that, but look are Martial at United. They're having a right go at Van Gaal for relying on a 19-year old for goals. If Lukaku hadn't started scoring quickly and frequently, we would've seen a similar effect. As Tomo said, most of the mentioned players have only stepped up this season.

Looking at Martial now (great playr just not yet) gives an insight to what we would have looked like if we pinned our hopes on Lukaku in 13/14 instead of signing Eto'o.

Our attacking mids were really young at the time, Lukaku up front would have made a ridicolously inexpierenced front line and Hazard touched on how Eto'o helped his development and I can imagine it was similar for the others.

Plus as soon as Etoo got up to speed he was class (and wasn't even as bad as made out before even) so he wasn't just there solely to guide the young AMs.

[coolhead23 1,146]

The only sold player really spoke about last season was KDB, the rest have only really cropped up this season.

I think we did, there were always been discussion on the Lukakus, the Matas, the KDB and the others (If not, my apologies because i think everyone did had a good discussion even last yr) ... As i said, when the going is bad we tend to take a trip down memory lane more than ever...

From a manager we expect vision and from someone like Jose we expect more because he is among the elite or among the best if not the best ... If any players who has been left go off, goes out and does well ... the blame is bound to come back on the manager and specially with the situation that we are in, the manager is going to be part of the blame game ...