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That makes two of us because I don't agree with you sticking by with Mourinho. How long do you want to persist with him? Next summer? 3 years from now?

Mourinho isn't a long term manager and his track record shows that. Couple with his aversion to blooding youth from the academy unlike other long term coaches such as Wenger and Ferguson, it beggars belief why any sane football fan would expect Mourinho to stay for more than 3 years and continue to bring success.

Sadly that looks the case now and if he can't turn this around or gets sacked soon his long term coaching abilities will be exposed for all to see.

However this is his first job where he has even attempted the long term route, in previous jobs he made it clear he wanted to do a European tour before attempting to settle down.

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Well, obviously. He wants us to be shit so his beloved United have a chance of winning something :ph34r:

Fergie has always been pro fellow managers when it comes to sackings , when he was at United he use to always pipe up every time a manager was sacked and go on about how unfair it was, no matter who it was, which got annoying after a while.

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Sadly that looks the case now and if he can't turn this around or gets sacked soon his long term coaching abilities will be exposed for all to see.

However this is his first job where he has even attempted the long term route, in previous jobs he made it clear he wanted to do a European tour before attempting to settle down.

His intentions may be to settle down but his old die-hard habits remain rigid and are not subject to change - at least that's how he thinks and acts.

What really grates on me is his playing favourites with team selection and especially his mistreatment of youth and flair players. Shunting Traore and Loftus-Cheek aside most of the time and turning Hazard, Oscar and Willian into specialists in tracking back is not acceptable in my books. Not to mention his getting rid of Lukaku, Mata and De Bryune.

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That makes two of us because I don't agree with you sticking by with Mourinho. How long do you want to persist with him? Next summer? 3 years from now?

Mourinho isn't a long term manager and his track record shows that. Couple with his aversion to blooding youth from the academy unlike other long term coaches such as Wenger and Ferguson, it beggars belief why any sane football fan would expect Mourinho to stay for more than 3 years and continue to bring success.

He deserves his share of the criticism, but criticism and firing are two different shoes. After cutting ties i think he is gone for good.

I said before that till January, if we lose all of the upcoming games, maybe his time has come.

We'll have to discuss it then, different situation.

Jose Mourinho wanted to experience different cultures, he could have picked the easy way and stayed in Porto;

beautiful blue chair, the Uefa Champions League trophy and an exciting young squad.

At Chelsea, he delivered big time, but not good enough for the owner.

Inter, he switched (his decision) and Real Madrid; how many managers stayed there for long?

At least he gave young players a chance; Khedira, Özil, Varane, Callejon and so on.

It's okay to think differently, but it's not black and white, it's impossible to make a binary assessment, imo.

For me, the greatest manager of all time:

Sir Alex Ferguson:

"He has to trust and have confidence Jose can turn it around. There is no point in sacking one of the best coaches of all time."

'It would be foolish to take that step to sack him.

That would be bad management; it's poor leadership, that.'

'For Jose, all good leaders will eventually find a solution. He will find a solution and I think he will get back to normal. It's not looking great at the moment, but I know the guy and work he has done in football and I can't see it lasting long.'

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His intentions may be to settle down but his old die-hard habits remain rigid and are not subject to change - at least that's how he thinks and acts.

What really grates on me is his playing favourites with team selection and especially his mistreatment of youth and flair players. Shunting Traore and Loftus-Cheek aside most of the time and turning Hazard, Oscar and Willian into specialists in tracking back is not acceptable in my books. Not to mention his getting rid of Lukaku, Mata and De Bryune.

That has confused me a bit now, in the past he has always been quick to drop underperforming players even if they are his favroite (kissed Pepe on the forhead then dropped him for Varane weeks later) yet with Ivanovic, nothing.

With the sales however, in my opinion only kdb was an error (admittedly a big one), Lukaku didn't want to be a rotation player and we got Costa, we got good money for a player we didn't need and Lukaku got the right move for his career. Mata was a great bit of buisness for me, he tailed off in early 2013 and he hasn't been anywhere near the same player since, in fact a lot of United fans I speak to say he is invisible on the pitch sometimes and last season they critisised his end product (which was the main argument to play him over Oscar when Jose got here).

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This "clown" gave you 3 League Titles so please have more respect. Yes, he is not doing a good job right now but its absurdly insulting and stupid how you and others are treating Jose Mourinho.

Criticism is one thing, being a plastic glory hunter is another...

It was Roman. As any fool can do good with money.

Look at Mancini and Pellegrini at City.

Plus you have to show respect to receive respect. This manager shows very little respect, and your asking for it? That's rich!

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We support Mourinho because of Chelsea, we don't support Chelsea because of Mourinho.

We support the one who gave us so much joy and success at his time here, 3 out of our 4 league titles since Roman are won with Jose. Don't forget the 2 League cups, 1 FA cup and 3 CL semi finals. This is the first season that he is really struggling and you're immediately calling for his head and name him '' a stinker of a manager'' , ''clown'' or ''fraud''. Such a disgrace, loyalty isn't in your dictionary.

If we are fanboys and sycophants, then you're fucking piece of plastic and glory hunter.

Forget it mate, there is no reasoning with trolls, save your energy for something better. Cheers

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Quit with the fanboy talk already. Not just you, everyone.

If you want to stand by the most successful manager the club has ever had and give him time (not just a few months), you're more than right to do that.

If you want the club to sack the manager that's seen the worst run in years, you're more than welcome to do that.

This is the biggest crossroads the club has been at in a long time and there's reasons for both. Watering it down to a pissing match between online usernames that have no bearing on what will happen is useless.

Well said. People attach so much weight to their opinions, but keep it respectful.

Its also the Internet, so theyre even more insignificant

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Back on Mourinho and this mess, we could be in the bottom three by New Years.

That's a massive problem. Dortmund were in this situation last season but were able to bounce back and grab a European spot. But it was done in an arguably weaker league. A lot of things must go right just to make any European competition next season. Where does that leave the club? There's players that are Chelsea through and through and will stay, but there are a number of players that will want to move on. Is this a quick dip that can be remedied next season (starting this season) or will it cause a shift in #1 priorities and #2 expectations, taking into consideration the financial implications of no Europe and a new stadium build on the way.

I'm left with a ton of questions and no answers.

Sacking Mourinho may be a blessing in terms of form, but there's a ton of damage that's been done already.

Hypothetically, a new manage comes in and things don't improve. What then? Who is to blame? So we blow everything up and start new?

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Back on Mourinho and this mess, we could be in the bottom three by New Years.

That's a massive problem. Dortmund were in this situation last season but were able to bounce back and grab a European spot. But it was done in an arguably weaker league. A lot of things must go right just to make any European competition next season. Where does that leave the club? There's players that are Chelsea through and through and will stay, but there are a number of players that will want to move on. Is this a quick dip that can be remedied next season (starting this season) or will it cause a shift in #1 priorities and #2 expectations, taking into consideration the financial implications of no Europe and a new stadium build on the way.

I'm left with a ton of questions and no answers.

Sacking Mourinho may be a blessing in terms of form, but there's a ton of damage that's been done already.

Hypothetically, a new manage comes in and things don't improve. What then? Who is to blame? So we blow everything up and start new?

For one season we can hide behind the it's a one off and were be back in CL next season.

If we fail again, we have a problem.

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