The Mourinho Thread

[Tomo 21,741]

  On 07/12/2015 at 17:59, Mana said:

It's funny we suddenly got new faces because of our defeat to Bournemouth.

About what SAF said, I agree with the people who rolled over SAF's comment. He's only saying that for his entertainment and amusement. Even most Arsenal fans that don't even respect Jose at all, suddenly want Jose to stay because he is sailing Chelsea to the Championship. In fact non-CFC fans will want Jose to stay instead of being sacked. They want to mock us throughout the whole entire season talking about us getting relegated. It's like us with David Moyes 2 years ago for goodness sake. Don't genuinely believe these people who want Jose to stay because he is a great manager for the PL.

If Wenger and Pellergrini come out of nowhere and say, "Jose Mourinho is a great manager, Chelsea would be dumb as fuck to let him go", would you believe these twats? Please don't be gullible.

The only people that I genuinely who want Jose to stay are the fans who have been backing Mourinho from the very beginning. stroey, Rhino's Skin, Essien19 to name a few.

I want Mourinho to go, but I respect him too much to call him a fraudster, a clown of a manager etc. I'll have to side with the Jose backers on this one. As much as he slapped me on the face this season, I cannot forget the trophies he has bought to the club and the 6-0 thrashing against Arseshit.

Sir Alex has always backed his fellow managers and defended their jobs even when they are indefensible, even Moyes, he's very old school and firmly belives in managerial stabilty and giving them time.

If Pellegrino starts piping up then defiently he has an ulterior motive but Fergie not so much.

[Pizy 18,544]

Please, no. Would be a significant downgrade from José. As bad as it is now I'd rather just keep him than appoint Conte. It's either Ancelotti or stick with Mourinho for me.

[iseah100 5,612]

Saw this on Reddit today

We have been seriously off the pace for some time now. Last season, we got 41 points from the second half of the season, a decent haul. However when tallied since January, the warning signs last season become crystal clear. Of the 17 teams in the Premier League for both seasons, we are 9th.

1. Arsenal: 72
2. Man City: 65
3. Man Utd: 64
4. Leicester: 60
5. Spurs: 59
6. Southampton: 58
7. Liverpool: 57
8. Everton: 57
9. Chelsea: 56
10. Crystal Palace: 54
11. Stoke: 51
12. West Brom: 46
13. Swansea: 42
14. West Ham: 39
15. Sunderland 30
16. Newcastle: 26
17. Aston Villa: 23

Now obviously, I will pre-empt this by saying that this shouldn't be directly inferred from. Clubs may have harder schedules one half of the season and that won't be accounted for, only looking at a calendar year. But it is nevertheless telling of just how pedestrian Chelsea's results have been for quite some time now in the league. In the last 3 months or so, pedestrian doesn't even begin to cover it( Since beating Arsenal we have collected 8 points from 9 games).

The reason I'm posting is, is not to call for scapegoating or knee-jerk reactions, but because I'm tired of deflections of bad form or bad luck. There is no way bad form is this consistent, this prolonged or this widespread among the entire squad. There has been no real response or reaction, our form is only stagnating. Burying our heads in the sand about it serves no purpose. We'll see how the rest of December goes but we are on track to get 63 points from 38 league games.

This doesn't rest on one person's head. Or one transfer window. Neither are faultless.

Either the squad is complacent and mentally weak or they are burnt out or the dressing room is lost. A combination of the three in varying factors is more than possible.

Thoughts?

[Starman60 1,343]

  On 06/12/2015 at 12:32, DYC. said:

Don't know. She always reminded me of one. Can you not imagine her with a flowy skirt and a scarf around her head, dancing on a windy field with excessive jewelry dangling in every direction?

Have you ever thought of becoming an "erotic novelist"? .........Well you've got me picturing her now!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[stroey 2,525]

  On 07/12/2015 at 18:32, iseah100 said:

Saw this on Reddit today

We have been seriously off the pace for some time now. Last season, we got 41 points from the second half of the season, a decent haul. However when tallied since January, the warning signs last season become crystal clear. Of the 17 teams in the Premier League for both seasons, we are 9th.

1. Arsenal: 72
2. Man City: 65
3. Man Utd: 64
4. Leicester: 60
5. Spurs: 59
6. Southampton: 58
7. Liverpool: 57
8. Everton: 57
9. Chelsea: 56
10. Crystal Palace: 54
11. Stoke: 51
12. West Brom: 46
13. Swansea: 42
14. West Ham: 39
15. Sunderland 30
16. Newcastle: 26
17. Aston Villa: 23

Now obviously, I will pre-empt this by saying that this shouldn't be directly inferred from. Clubs may have harder schedules one half of the season and that won't be accounted for, only looking at a calendar year. But it is nevertheless telling of just how pedestrian Chelsea's results have been for quite some time now in the league. In the last 3 months or so, pedestrian doesn't even begin to cover it( Since beating Arsenal we have collected 8 points from 9 games).

The reason I'm posting is, is not to call for scapegoating or knee-jerk reactions, but because I'm tired of deflections of bad form or bad luck. There is no way bad form is this consistent, this prolonged or this widespread among the entire squad. There has been no real response or reaction, our form is only stagnating. Burying our heads in the sand about it serves no purpose. We'll see how the rest of December goes but we are on track to get 63 points from 38 league games.

This doesn't rest on one person's head. Or one transfer window. Neither are faultless.

Either the squad is complacent and mentally weak or they are burnt out or the dressing room is lost. A combination of the three in varying factors is more than possible.

Thoughts?

Says nothing because we played for nothing but pride anymore after 35 matches. We were 13 points clear of City after match day 35 (Crystal Palace) and won the league, and we still had 3 noncompetitive games where we had nothing to lose, in those remaining games we dropped 5 points, drew with Pool, lost vs WBA, beat Sunderland.

So in the first half of the season we had 46, second half of the season 41 points, 87 in total, not that much of a contrast considering we dropped 5 points in noncompetitive games. The problem is solely this season, 15 points after 15 games.

If you want to talk about playing style and form, then that's another story.

[kmk108 1,186]

  On 07/12/2015 at 18:20, Tomo said:

Sir Alex has always backed his fellow managers and defended their jobs even when they are indefensible, even Moyes, he's very old school and firmly belives in managerial stabilty and giving them time.

If Pellegrino starts piping up then defiently he has an ulterior motive but Fergie not so much.

And he dealt with the "sack fergie" in the beginning of his tenure.

[Fernando 6,534]

  On 07/12/2015 at 16:22, Tomo said:

If we are going to be technical about it, he is the first manager to win it for God knows how long with a negative net spend the previous summer.

True that, but you do understand why?

Why you think we couldn't do it this summer?

Because we had to sell to buy, and we no longer have assets to sell.

[mtowle182 79]

  On 07/12/2015 at 14:00, bellion said:

"Standing by" is an euphemism for sharpening the axe until the time is right which 'i reckon is when the match-going fans turn on Mounrinho.

When blind Mourinho followers or fanboys stand by their idol even in the face of relegation due to his stubborness and ego, that is what I would consider a ridiculous situation.

So it's his stubbornness and ego and not class players playing like u21s

[Muzchap 8,966]

  On 07/12/2015 at 19:05, kmk108 said:

And he dealt with the "sack fergie" in the beginning of his tenure.

Poles apart you can't draw any parallels to then and now.

He inherited a team of drinkers and layabouts, is that the problem we currently have?

[Muzchap 8,966]

  On 07/12/2015 at 19:24, mtowle182 said:

So it's his stubbornness and ego and not class players playing like u21s

Monkey see monkey do, normally you look to the manager for inspiration. However, he's a bigger child than most, so yeah - he is culpable...

His actions have led to the players not performing. Therefore he has failed and must be got rid off ASAP

[DYC. 7,542]

  On 07/12/2015 at 18:36, Starman60 said:

Have you ever thought of becoming an "erotic novelist"? .........Well you've got me picturing her now!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's the plan after I retire from my career in space travel and adult films.

[kmk108 1,186]

  On 07/12/2015 at 19:25, Muzchap said:

Poles apart you can't draw any parallels to then and now.

He inherited a team of drinkers and layabouts, is that the problem we currently have?

No, but to Fergie, he's seen it before and saw what happened when the club stood by its manager. It's not unreasonable for him, who's always had a good respectable relationship with Mourinho, to make a comment like that given what Fergie has done.

[kmk108 1,186]

  On 07/12/2015 at 19:26, Muzchap said:

Monkey see monkey do, normally you look to the manager for inspiration. However, he's a bigger child than most, so yeah - he is culpable...

His actions have led to the players not performing. Therefore he has failed and must be got rid off ASAP

IF a new manager comes in and the squad still has trouble getting results, will you blame the new manager as well, or will you start to look to the players as possible culprits?

No doubt Mourinho has caused much of what's going on, but the players are underperforming on the pitch. If a new manager comes in, changes things up and the players still aren't getting the results, it's going to bring up interesting questions regarding who really cares in this team and what the hell happened.

Ok, I'm done with hypotheticals for the day

[Muzchap 8,966]

  On 07/12/2015 at 19:29, kmk108 said:

No, but to Fergie, he's seen it before and saw what happened when the club stood by its manager. It's not unreasonable for him, who's always had a good respectable relationship with Mourinho, to make a comment like that given what Fergie has done.

Jesus - Robbie Savage said the same thing!

You think any other manager wants to say sack that manager? It just doesn't happen

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

Easy for Fergie to say. At the end of the day he doesn't give a rat's ass about this club.

[quickpassnmove 924]

buon Natale! Merry Christmas!

It's not Gary Neville, nor Guardiola,

It's not Simeone, not Emery,

It's not a bit of Koeman nor Parma Ham!

Sack'm in the evening!

goodbye Jose

Ciao Conte!

buona notte!

[Stats 7,084]

I seriously can't understand how anyone wants Mourinho to stay. We are a top club playing repulsive football. That is not even an exaggeration. We had one of the finest LB in Europe and sold him because Mourinho decided Azpi should be starting nearly every game. The fact that Mourinho thinks that is the way forward to go long term by keep playing Ivan at RB and Azpi at LB shows me his approach to football. Bertrand, Luis, who are 2 natural left footed players should never have gone but both sold. Then us being a top club, playing the likes of Liverpool and West Ham who are inferior to us and having Zouma at RB is utterly embarrassing. Just how does that work out? Look at all top teams and see one their biggest strengths is by having 2 natural FB in their correct position.

I mean some people were happy with the point against Spurs. That just sums up Mourinho for me. Another manager would look at the game and look out the difference between points between the 2 and actually try to win the game. But Mourinho was happy to take a point. I just don't get that way of thinking when a club like ours is languishing near the foot of the table.

Then just look at every game we have played this season in the league. We have not stringed 2 consecutive wins together and there has literally not been 1 performance in the league from us this season that has been convincing. That is unacceptable. The club going forward with Mourinho is not getting us anywhere. Losing to a Bournemouth side sums that up. That is literally zero-tolerance. Especially at home. Spurs scored 5 past them away from home. Everton scored 3 past them way from home. City scored 5 past them. We bloody lost to them with virtually our whole team fit. That speaks volumes. Even Villa and Newcastle managed to beat them. LOL and just imagine what Arsenal are going to do to them.

We need someone new just to come in and get us playing how we should and I have watched enough of us to know that Mourinho is not that man. It is actually embarrassing watching what Mourinho has turned us in to.

[Special Juan 27,616]

Apparently he will be sacked tomorrow and will take over ISIS....At least then nobody will be attacked [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]