The Mourinho Thread

[Term-X 7,891]

I don't think Mourinho will go to United but neither do I particularly agree with these points. He's ruthless and egotistical and we love him for that. But that also means if he thought managing United would be the best thing for his career then he would do it regardless of what us Chelsea fans thought (especially if he were sacked). With the last point are you saying United can't compete with us in terms of money?

Chelsea?' main and 'only' point was that he'd want a new challenge, which makes no sense as he'd only be repeating the same domestic trophies he's won here. Mourinho earns almost 1.5m more than Van Gaal, and it's not like Roman would be unable to compete with United if they offered him more. So yes, there is no 'money element'. I personally don't think he'd want to be known as a judas and ruin a BIG part of his legacy (which is Chelsea), he always showed the club and fans respect when he was at Inter & Real. Jose is practically synonymous with the club now, it would almost be like Ferguson coming here.

- Chelsea was a step up from Porto - Inter was a new challenge in a different country - Real was a step-up from inter - United would be a step down..

[The Chels 2,502]

Chelsea?' main and 'only' point was that he'd want a new challenge, which makes no sense as he'd only be repeating the same domestic trophies he's won here. Mourinho earns almost 1.5m more than Van Gaal, and it's not like Roman would be unable to compete with United if they offered him more. So yes, there is no 'money element'. I personally don't think he'd want to be known as a judas and ruin a BIG part of his legacy (which is Chelsea), he always showed the club and fans respect when he was at Inter & Real. Jose is practically synonymous with the club now, it would almost be like Ferguson coming here.

- Chelsea was a step up from Porto - Inter was a new challenge in a different country - Real was a step-up from inter - United would be a step down..

United could and would easily beat us on wages if it was about that particularly as we become more concerned with FFP. If we're honest Madrid to Chelsea is a step down but Chelsea to United wouldn't be. I doubt Mourinho will ever manage them but if he becomes available and they're in a need of a manager I would not be surprised at all to see him take the post.

[TheOneChan95 225]

He doesn't have a point. This idea that Mourinho wanted the United job was fiction to start with, it was Ferguson he had admiration for not United.

I meant the part where he might seek a new challenge. He seems to have this insatiable appetite to achieve more. He doesn't get too caught up in the celebrations whenever he wins something because he is always thinking about the next one. I doubt he would go to United as it would be a step down when he succeeds here. He has already won it in England so that probably wouldn't be his idea of a challenge.

Becoming an international coach is not so far fetched as he did make comments about managing either Portugal or England. But I think that will probably be much further down the road.

[Term-X 7,891]

United could and would easily beat us on wages if it was about that particularly as we become more concerned with FFP. If we're honest Madrid to Chelsea is a step down but Chelsea to United wouldn't be. I doubt Mourinho will ever manage them but if he becomes available and they're in a need of a manager I would not be surprised at all to see him take the post.

No it wouldn't, and we're having no problems with FFP (what Jose said in the press recently is mind games, heaps the pressure on United). Mourinho is the second highest paid manager in world football, we are the status quo. You have no argument for United being a 'step up', other than their history.. the same arguments Liverpool fans have.

[TheOneChan95 225]

United could and would easily beat us on wages if it was about that particularly as we become more concerned with FFP. If we're honest Madrid to Chelsea is a step down but Chelsea to United wouldn't be. I doubt Mourinho will ever manage them but if he becomes available and they're in a need of a manager I would not be surprised at all to see him take the post.

United could outmuscle us financially at the moment and FFP does maintain the status quo. I doubt money is his main objective though. I agree with you that I think he is ruthless enough to take it, but the circumstances here at Chelsea must be really dire if he would want to go there.

In my opinion, I think his time at Madrid really made him appreciate the fans that he has here. For him to forsake us would require almost everything to go wrong now.

[The Chels 2,502]

No it wouldn't, and we're having no problems with FFP (what Jose said in the press recently is mind games, heaps the pressure on United). Mourinho is the second highest paid manager in world football. You have no argument for United being a 'step up', other than their history.. the same arguments Liverpool fans have.

It seems like you're really understimating the wealth and stature of United. If it were simply a case of money then there's absolutely no chance we'd outdo them (yes Jose gets paid more than van Gaal but if they wanted to make him the highest paid manager in the world they could do it easily); and if you think that United isn't a step up from Chelsea in terms of the magnitude and national/worldwide standing of the club then your Chelsea bias is clouding your better judgement.

[The Skipper 20,609]

It seems like you're really understimating the wealth and stature of United. If it were simply a case of money then there's absolutely no chance we'd outdo them (yes Jose gets paid more than van Gaal but if they wanted to make him the highest paid manager in the world they could do it easily); and if you think that United isn't a step up from Chelsea in terms of the magnitude and national/worldwide standing of the club then your Chelsea bias is clouding your better judgement.

How much of a step up though? A step up in what way exactly? What would Jose have there that he doesn't have here?

You're grossly overestimating United's stature IMO.

[Chelsea? 892]

I get your point but having completed the club set of pretty much every major trophy from England, Spain and Italy, I think he would set his sights on something else. I suspect he may manage an international side. Can you imagine if he wins either a Euro or a World Cup or possibly both? His status as the greatest manager of all time would be unchallenged.

Yea, the chances of him going to a national team are much greater than United. there aren't many things I'd hate to see more than Jose at United, that's why I brought it up.

[The Chels 2,502]

How much of a step up though? A step up in what way exactly? What would Jose have there that he doesn't have here?

You're grossly overestimating United's stature IMO.

I don’t think I’m exaggerating United’s stature tbh. Is it an overestimation to say that United have more prestige, fans, history (clichéd but true), national and worldwide recognition, and financial prowess? While we are a big club I'm willing to admit we are not on the same level as United, and for managers it is a bigger proposition. Perhaps now that Jose has already managed a club at that 'top, top' level in Real he'd be less inclined to take the United job but to say it is a step down from Chelsea (according to Term anyway) is completely wrong imo.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

He said he would never join Chelsea or Inter rival...

But United is hardly our rival nowdays

[Chelsea? 892]

it would be pretty awesome to be known as the guy that was able to successfully replace Alex Ferguson; especially if you have a high opinion of him.

Do I think this is likely? no. I just don't wanna see it happen AT ALL. that's pretty much my entire point. It's like a happily married man being scared his wife will divorce him in the future because he thinks she'll be bored of him

[The Skipper 20,609]

I dont think Im exaggerating Uniteds stature tbh. Is it an overestimation to say that United have more prestige, fans, history (clichéd but true), national and worldwide recognition, and financial prowess? While we are a big club I'm willing to admit we are not on the same level as United, and for managers it is a bigger proposition. Perhaps now that Jose has already managed a club at that 'top, top' level in Real he'd be less inclined to take the United job but to say it is a step down from Chelsea (according to Term anyway) is completely wrong imo.

Even if those points are true, are United that big that he'll shun us for them considering he's already done the 'prestige' club thing at Real? The gap truly isn't as big as you're making it seem.

As Term said, he's already done it before, and it's already off his to do list IMO. His focus right now is to get us to that Real Madrid, Barcelona, United level. That in itself is much more challenging and intriguing for Mou than the United job IMO.

[The Chels 2,502]

Even if those points are true, are United that big that he'll shun us for them considering he's already done the 'prestige' club thing at Real? The gap truly isn't as big as you're making it seem.

As Term said, he's already done it before, and it's already off his to do list IMO. His focus right now is to get us to that Real Madrid, Barcelona, United level. That in itself is much more challenging and intriguing for Mou than the United job IMO.

It all depends on the circumances. If he were to be sacked then I have no doubt he'd be willing to take the United job.

[The Skipper 20,609]

It all depends on the circumances. If he were to be sacked then I have no doubt he'd be willing to take the United job.

Absolutely, but that has nothing to do with the fact that United might be bigger in stature than us... More to do with the fact that it's another top job.

[Tomo 21,751]

The Mou wants the United job myth is hilarious, he has never actually done anything to suggest he wants it if you read between the lines.