The Mourinho Thread

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Stop moaning like little bitches and face the reality. He is to blame, ok, but so are the players. In Paris, Cavani was THE ONLY PSG player in a box full of Chelsea shirts and still scored a free header. David Luiz came unmarked and scored a free header. Thiago Silva won the aerial battle even though he was 11m away from the net.

Jose is to blame for the shambolic approach in the final third. But the goals the team conceded is a total lack of concentration, communication and organisation. Three goals was enough for Chelsea to go trough if it wasn't for that poor defensive display.

JT, a true legend for this club, Ivanovic, Cahill, Courtois. They are to blame, too. They are supposed to command the box and unfortunately they didn't over these two legs. Maybe, I say maybe, Thiago Silva's goal could not have been avoided as it was a superb finish and he completely dominated Terry in the air, but there is no excuse for the other two. Defensive errors worth of a team like Arsenal or Liverpool.

Mourinho is responsible for preparing the team mentally as well. The defensive errors are as a result of a poor mental approach to a big game, a combination of fear and cautiousness. The reality is

(1) Not for the first or last time this season, we've looked worse after the half time team talk than before it.

(2) Anytime a result is in our favour against a good team, we retreat to our shells and surrender possession to them even against 10 players, a'la City and now PSG.

It's the manager's job to ensure these things don't happen, but they keep happening time and time again, leading me question the competence of the man in charge.

[Styles 9,790]

They obviously weren't just ignoring the manager's instructions. Did you ever see Costa ignore SImeone's instructions to press? No it would never happen to him and it wouldn't happen with Jose either. If he wanted Costa and the midfield to press and play with more intensity then they would have but he clearly didn't. Even the pressing we used right at the start of the game seemed pretty half-arsed to me. PSG played around it so easily and still got into dangerous positions but that happens very often so it's not just the players at fault.

This was the most embarrassing aspect of the game. PSG looked more comfortable in possession and had more passing options with 10 men than we did with 11.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

They obviously weren't just ignoring the manager's instructions. Did you ever see Costa ignore Simeone's instructions to press? No it would never happen to him and it wouldn't happen with Jose either. If he wanted Costa and the midfield to press and play with more intensity then they would have but he clearly didn't. Even the pressing we used right at the start of the game seemed pretty half-arsed to me. PSG played around it so easily and still got into dangerous positions but that happens very often so it's not just the players at fault.

Whose decision was it not to double up on the widemen when they were in dangerous positions? The vast majority of their goalscoring opportunities came came as a result of our FBs being far too narrow and our apparent willingness to allow crosses in even though we could not cope with them. This was also an issue in the West Ham game (and plenty others this season). It is a tactical fault so yes Jose is to blame.

Nice to see you've joined the party, Chels. There's no reasoning with Mourinho and his acolytes, unfortunately.

[Hybrid Angel 2,130]

As I said previously, he is the one who built this team and HE is the one who is preventing it from reaching its potential. This is what the likes of Wenger struggle with: Stubbornness. Wenger likes to attack attack and attack despite getting bad results. Mourinho hasn't learned his lesson this season. How many times did we lose a lead playing this way?

What on earth was he thinking when he instructed the players not to press against a 10 men psg side at home?

Who knows, maybe one day, one day, we will be able to see us to change our big game mentality with attacking and positive intent.

Today we lost to Jose's fear, not Luiz and Silva's headers.

[HRiver 1,512]

Can't help but feel that reality has hit Abramovich real hard in the face this time around, he knows this team isn't likely to play the football he dreams of at this point. Abramovich wants to win and he wants to win well, this is the same frustrating and predictable Chelsea we've been witnessing for years. Can't see Mourinho making drastic changes to his approach + this team is just really not that good.

As someone said in another thread winning the league title with this team would be a massive success, hopefully that will attract some players for next season.

[zolayes 14,489]

I never expected us to win the CL this year BUT if we miss out on the PL I will be saying Jose OUT

[supporter 3,088]

If Jose is the culprit only today... Jose will be solely responsible when we win Premier League in May?. NO, Here we win and we lose ALL TOGETHER.

I do not know, but when a bad result comes, Jose is a bastard. However, when we have a good result many people say that Jose has won little trophies which are not important.

We are a team. Jose may go in the future, but he is important in our history. Roman may go in the future, but he is important in our history part. John Terry may go in the future, but he is important in our history.

This may not be "Mourinho is good and Chelsea is shit". Or "Mourinho is a shit, and Chelsea is good". NO, we are all together in the same boat. If we do not paddled together, we are going to sink.

When we win in May our fifth Premier League, I'll be here celebrating. But if we lose this Premier League in May, I'll be here paddling with more force than ever. And I know I'm not alone in this.

Goodnight to ALL.

Regards.

[Parky 739]

Again another massive tactical error when PSG went to 10 men. Jose turns to his usual negative Russian roulette football. I think he seriously needs someone to fkn wake him up and let him know he needs to be more progressive with his approach to football.

Our football atm is totally clueless, negative and boring as bat shit. The irony is that we have so much talent at our disposal.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

wow so much descension.

Look, Jose got it wrong, he rode his luck and it caught up to him. We played awful today and the team played his tactics, we deserved to go out and Jose will have to answer that.

He's still the guy for me, this is awful but not inexcusable, he needs to learn from this and get the balance right again... We never looked like scoring and we always looked like conceding, he has to come to grips with the fact that if he's gonna play Cesc we have to be on the front foot.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

Can't help but feel that reality has hit Abramovich real hard in the face this time around, he knows this team isn't likely to play the football he dreams of at this point. Abramovich wants to win and he wants to win well, this is the same frustrating and predictable Chelsea we've been witnessing for years.

There's a reason why Mourinho wasn't his 1st, 2nd or even 3rd choice. Guardiola was his man, but he rejected us. It's not only about the style now, the tactics are also pretty sub par these days.

[iseah100 5,612]

There's a reason why Mourinho wasn't his 1st, 2nd or even 3rd choice. Guardiola was his man, but he rejected us. It's not only about the style now, the tactics are also pretty sub par these days.

How do you know the top 3 candidates? Tell Roman I'd make a decent scout[emoji6]

[LAB 1,030]

The key bit was why are we trying to press a team with 10 players? Shouldn't we be the ones dominating the possession? Why was Hazard still so deep in our half vs 10 man PSG? Why did we never try to go for the killer goal to finish off the tie? Mourinho is cautious so his players have become cautious.

Exactly. Why was Hazard still so deep, having the ball, with space in front of him to exploit and run to, bored as hell, passing the ball to Ivanovic, Ivanovic passing back at him and the two of them doing that loop clueless for like 4 or 5 times like PSG are Hull City level and will sit and wait for the game to be over? WTF? Is this a tactic ordered from Mourinho? Don't get me wrong he is not a saint but this tonight files under "major player bottle job" a 1000 times more than "Jose doesn't care about our attacking play". We all have witnessed what this team is capable of early this season. Willian had the ball just outside the area many times with noone interested around him to pass into. No runs, no nothing with space available. Is this Mourinho's instructions? I don't think so. There was literally not a single inspired person in that pitch today. If we weren't chasing a PL title that we desperately need, I'd gladly bench a couple of divas on Sunday if i was him. Half the team maybe.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

wow so much descension.

Look, Jose got it wrong, he rode his luck and it caught up to him. We played awful today and the team played his tactics, we deserved to go out and Jose will have to answer that.

He's still the guy for me, this is awful but not inexcusable, he needs to learn from this and get the balance right again... We never looked like scoring and we always looked like conceding, he has to come to grips with the fact that if he's gonna play Cesc we have to be on the front foot.

What if he just doesn't know HOW to learn from this? You make it sound like this is just a one off. What exactly can he change in his tactical approach that will benefit us going forward? The players he has at his disposal are not suitable to the style of football (and the only style of football) Mourinho has shown in his career, and that means the team is not as good as it can be. At this level, you get exposed!

To borrow a quote from Zlatan, we have Ferrari's (Hazard, Fabregas, Oscar, Willian, Cuadrado) but he is driving them like Fiat's (Ramires, Essien, Duff, Wise). Take a guy like Fabregas. How do you expect a guy like Fabregas to play well vs good teams when the manager uses the exact same tactics that minimizes his strengths?

It's laughable to see a Cesc Fabregas form a 4 man shield to protect the defense from minute 1-90 like against Man City for example. I almost feel sorry for him. He's probably had to defend here more in 8 months than he's done in his entire career!

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

How do you know the top 3 candidates? Tell Roman I'd make a decent scout[emoji6]

Guardiola was one. Joachim Loew was the second. I can't remember who the third was. But it was public knowledge we wanted Pep to replace Benitez and he rejected us.

[Vybz Kartel 1,613]

Lets be honest, Mourinho has lost his ex factor, im not even saying this because we lost, but when was the last time we won a big game?? A really important game that is

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

What if he just doesn't know HOW to learn from this? You make it sound like this is just a one off. What exactly can he change in his tactical approach that will benefit us going forward? The players he has at his disposal are not suitable to the style of football (and the only style of football) Mourinho has shown in his career, and that means the team is not as good as it can be. At this level, you get exposed!

To borrow a quote from Zlatan, we have Ferrari's (Hazard, Fabregas, Oscar, Willian, Cuadrado) but he is driving them like Fiat's (Ramires, Essien, Duff, Wise). Take a guy like Fabregas. How do you expect a guy like Fabregas to play well vs good teams when the manager uses the exact same tactics that minimizes his strengths?

It's laughable to see a Cesc Fabregas form a 4 man shield to protect the defense from minute 1-90 like against Man City for example. I almost feel sorry for him. He's probably had to defend here more in 8 months than he's done in his entire career.

In fairness to Jose, Cesc has never won likely because he doesn't know how to defend. He wants to play deeper but when you play him there he's a liability. That's the lesson Jose needs to learn, when you are trying to grind out a result you can't have Cesc playing in the holding role. He should've been subbed out and Oscar should've continued, even on a yellow.

We had the wrong approach today and it cost us, you have every right to get on your soapbox and use this opportunity to spew the "Jose out, he can't coach offensive players" propaganda, I happen to think had we gone out and attacked today we may have won and we also may have lost. Jose took the wrong approach today, anyone watching can agree with that, but I don't think the sky is falling, not at all, good managers look at where things went wrong and look to learn from them.

What if we win the league? is a double not enough anymore?

[Tomo 21,751]

It's not just about preference. That's all he's good at. Many people are blinded by the amount of goals his team scored in the 11/12 season, but ask any Madrid fan, they were not happy with the football in his 3 year spell in general.

Do you really believe playing attacking football is not part of the job description given to him by Abramovich? That's very important to him and for the image of the club and rightly so.

And right now they are even less impressed by Ancelotti.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Lets be honest, Mourinho has lost his ex factor, im not even saying this because we lost, but when was the last time we won a big game?? A really important game that is

Are you talking about this year? Or since Jose's been back?

This is the type of shit that gets my blood boiling, such ridiculous rhetoric from a bunch of kids who don't understand the meaning of a big game.

And please if I ever catch you fronting like you're Jamaican again... Bout Vybz Kartel.... where are you from Abbotsford? get the fuck outta here you phony.

[iseah100 5,612]

Are you talking about this year? Or since Jose's been back?

This is the type of shit that gets my blood boiling, such ridiculous rhetoric from a bunch of kids who don't understand the meaning of a big game.

And please if I ever catch you fronting like you're Jamaican again... Bout Vybz Kartel.... where are you from Abbotsford? get the fuck outta here you phony.

Get em bro! plastics i tell ya

[Tomo 21,751]

Lets be honest, Mourinho has lost his ex factor, im not even saying this because we lost, but when was the last time we won a big game?? A really important game that is

Well you are cause if Tibo saved David's header or he headed into Tibos gloves the answer would be tonight.

But to answer your question Arsenal at home.