The Mourinho Thread

[NishC300 1,865]

Must say DriveTime on @talkSPORT was incredible. The guys were absolutely spot on!

The presenter said that Arsenal were club that bang on on about Financial Fair Play yet make up for it by stealing money off their own fans. Never thought I'd hear this on Radio......

[The Skipper 20,593]

Some Arsenal fans calling Mou a failure because he got "sacked" at Real and in his first stint here. How they despise him as a man and that he's the biggest dick in the PL... It's hilarious.

Gotta love how Mou is getting under the skin of these lot. They're angry because it's true.

[bababoom 4,478]

Seems like Wenger comments got to him, Jose wasn't even joking. Not really sure if Wenger struck a nerve.

I do find it funny that most of the Arsenal fans who said the exact same thing somehow feel insulted because Mourinho said it... at least Piers Morgan agrees with Jose.

[Stingray 9,441]

Some Arsenal fans calling Mou a failure because he got "sacked" at Real and in his first stint here. How they despise him as a man and that he's the biggest dick in the PL... It's hilarious.

Gotta love how Mou is getting under the skin of these lot. They're angry because it's true.

They just green with jealousy bout that 'big dick' imo

[Alan Partridge 1,124]

Just telling it like it is

Wenger failed! All those youngsters were meant to grow into a title winning side, never happened. They sell their best players.

They win the Emirates cup though! and apparently 4th in the league is kind of a title according to Wenger......

[The only place to be 11,313]

Wenger failed! All those youngsters were meant to grow into a title winning side, never happened.

That's well unfair. Just look at how successful Fabregas, Van Persie, Clichy, Nasri and Cole have been.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Wenger got the nerve to say mourinho is afraid of failure and got exactly what he deserves.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Wenger might actually be right about a 'fear of failure'. In my experience a lot of winners have a horrific fear of failure and are sometimes labelled 'bad losers'.

Wenger's way around this is lowering the standards of a victory by treating top four as a trophy, as he said here.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/feb/19/arsene-wenger-arsenal-fourth-place

He's happy to throw Arsenal's name into the title race because not winning it is not a failure by his standards. He's a 'winner' purely by finishing in the top four, and if you look at their fans' celebrations at Newcastle last season then you'll see how they've been brainwashed into believing that as well.

The man is a coward plain and simple, and for him to criticise a WINNER'S fear of failure as if it's a character defect tells you everything you need to know about the man.

[Thendo 1,088]

Great to see José back to his more arrogant self, maybe a little bit harsh on Wenger but I love it!

[didierforever 7,349]

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[Viper22 2,418]

To be fair they haven't had the luxury of spending much in those 8 years. He's done well to keep them where they are to be honest. But their board are just full of stingy businessmen, they have the funds no doubt, they just don't put more in transfers as long as they make tidy profits from the Champions League and ticket sales thank you very much.

Let's be honest though, since their last trophy he's spent horribly:

Reyes for £10.5M, Hleb for £11.5M, Eduardo for £7.5M, Arshavin for £15M, Squillaci for £4M, Gervinho for £10.5M, Ozil for £42.5M and the crowning turd in the water pipe Andre Santos for £7M. He could have spent that ~£110M so much better...

[robsblubot 3,502]

Just telling it like it is

Wenger failed! All those youngsters were meant to grow into a title winning side, never happened. They sell their best players.

They win the Emirates cup though! and apparently 4th in the league is kind of a title according to Wenger......

yup, they all leave just before turning into winners. It's a vicious circle really as some say you develop winners by winning.

Pretty vicious comments by Jose, even though they are all true. It also somewhat diminishes the importance of the people who have worked along with him - not to mention the clubs.

[HD3D 1,038]

To be fair they haven't had the luxury of spending much in those 8 years. He's done well to keep them where they are to be honest. But their board are just full of stingy businessmen, they have the funds no doubt, they just don't put more in transfers as long as they make tidy profits from the Champions League and ticket sales thank you very much.

But if Wenger is so limited at Arsenal, why didn't he leave Arsenal for a bigger club where he could put his own talent as a manager to full test, lift trophies and make history? If he was to leave Arsenal, I'm sure he would be offered a job at some other big club. Why did he stuck to the Arsenal job knowing the club can't or refuses to invest more in his work?

Because he lacks ambition and he couldn't care less if he wins trophies or not. He is afraid that he could pull a Moyes, leave Arsenal and watch his career go downhill from there.

So it's true, Wenger IS a failure because he is happy to be on the losing side. That said, I do believe Mou went too far on this one. No need to put the old man down about it...

[HD3D 1,038]

The funny thing is the amount of Arsenal fans who can't find fault with what Jose said. There were plenty of them who were ready to say goodbye to Wenger after their poor start and now that they're faltering, you won't see a rush to defend him.

Plus Wenger teed him up perfectly and deserved exactly what he got. He's too easy a target.

Actually, I think most of them seem to agree :

http://www.goonersworld.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=26969

[Benches not the shed 77]

yup, they all leave just before turning into winners. It's a vicious circle really as some say you develop winners by winning.

Pretty vicious comments by Jose, even though they are all true. It also somewhat diminishes the importance of the people who have worked along with him - not to mention the clubs.

Vicious

Behave will ya.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

and the crowning turd in the water pipe Andre Santos for £7M.

We paid the same amount for Azpi!!

[robsblubot 3,502]

Vicious

Behave will ya.

never!

btw, there is no way Jose is right on this one.

Say, if Wenger is indeed a quack, and some of his tactics may suggest that, then he is still a winner for having fooled a big club like Arsenal for all these years.

On the other hand, the most plausible explanation is that Wenger is really not that great in tactics and formations, but excels at building and developing players on the cheap, which makes him an asset for clubs interested in playing the transfer market as opposed to win silverware - still a guy with a fat paycheck.

[Su_Mou4ever 2]

Wenger, Marshall and Barney wrote a song for you. It's call "you're just got slapped"