The Mourinho Thread

[The Skipper 20,593]

Extremely frustrating time to be a Chelsea fan.

wow.

[nadavTKL 1,787]

@Liquidator

Mourinho wants a tactically disciplined playmaker, Mata isn't that, as he's shown (not just in the big games) but throughout his time here. Hence why Jose even labeled Mata as a winger when questioned about his role (direct quotes). He doesn't track back, nor does he have the work rate Oscar possesses.

Can you share a link for this direct quotes? second time I see you mention it and I haven't found it.

[Amblève. 4,995]

Has anyone read a single headline where Lukaku is being blamed for the loss? No? That's Mourinho's work right there.

[communicate 2,703]

Has anyone read a single headline where Lukaku is being blamed for the loss? No? That's Mourinho's work right there.

Nah nobody in their correct mind will ever blame lukaku. Most will blame Mou for picking lukaku

[communicate 2,703]

It bothers me slightly when he complains like he did yesterday (because I think he didn't have a point and for some - not me - he may sound like a sore loser), but it's a way to put pressure on referees for upcoming matches.

No one in UEFA wants someone to imply conspiracies against teams, especially not someone as big as José Mourinho. So they might be more careful next time.

The problem is that if he keep doing that it will make our image as club tainted like real Madrid. I like real but not Mourinho real.

[The_Flash 1,144]

Lol, didnt have a point? We're you watching the same game as the rest of us, it was a farce. Bayern Munich cheated as always,!8 have never seen a game where the ref kept blowing the whistle every few second, Chelsea player breathed on BM player and they have gone down, it looks serious. It was such inept refereeing. Shocking, BM couldn't beat us with 11 v 11 and in all honesty sadly bar a few seconds we were beating them with 10. Some of the tackles they did were atrocious yet nothing happen. It was a pathetic example of ref engineering results. Just as they did last year trying to get all English clubs out of all the competitions.

Jose was spot on to finally speak out about this nonsense just watching MOTD and few dogy ref calls on it, forget the technology all the refs need brought in and taught the ******* rules agin because they clearly make them up as they go along.'

[NishC300 1,865]

Can't believe how you are now just slagging off our best player for the past 2 seasons already because he isn't match fit to show what he can do.

1) Yes he isn't very strong but neither is Hazard

2) He isn't very quick but his job isn't to be quick, it is to create chances. He usually plays in the middle so it isn't as necessary for him to have a lot of pace

3) Attacking midfielder. There's a clue in the name. However, if you do want to go on about defensive responsibility then I suggest you lot at some of Hazard's piss poor defensive work from games last season.

4) Now this is hilarious.

Last season alone:

Assist and goal vs Arsenal away

2 goals and assist vs Spurs away

Goal vs Man United home

Only goal vs Norwich away

Goal vs Arsenal home

Only goal vs Man United away

2011/12

Best player vs Arsenal home

2 assists vs Valencia home

Only goal vs Fulham home and QPR (FA Cup) away

Goal vs Man U home

Winning goal vs Wigan home

Goal vs Spurs FA Cup semi final

Assist and MOTM vs Liverpool FA Cup final

Assist Champions League final

I don't get what more you want him to do in 'big games' to be honest. Probably been listening to media drivel that he hasn't shown up for them when he has consistently been one of our best players in them.

5) He can't get into it because he isn't 100% match fit at the moment maybe?

Well said. You can add Assist in Europa League Final and a good performance at home to City 11/12.

Scored a screamer in that game vs Arsenal.

[NishC300 1,865]

Hugh?, Hazard WAS playing, he wasn't on the bench.

There was a very physically weak guy with zero pace and no sense of defensive responsibility on the bench though. I think it's that same guy who never turns up for the big games, and can't get into the spanish side, hmm.. starts with an 'M' doesn't it?

First of all, to all budding controversial posters, if you want to learn to be controversial- this is how!

We had this discussion on Twitter earlier.

You claimed the reason he won 2 awards was cos it was our 2 worst seasons under Abramovich (which they were). But at the same time the PFA nominated him as well for their award.

He makes up for his weaknesses with his incredible intelligence. Still nobody in our team passes as well as he does.

Hazard had a terrible work rate, how do you not know Mourinho will work with Mata too to improve his work rate?

Mata is an incredible, hard working person and a future club legend.

Oh yea, if he's that bad then how come a few months ago you used to have the back of Mata's shirt as your ava?

[NishC300 1,865]

Lol, didnt have a point? We're you watching the same game as the rest of us, it was a farce. Bayern Munich cheated as always,!8 have never seen a game where the ref kept blowing the whistle every few second, Chelsea player breathed on BM player and they have gone down, it looks serious. It was such inept refereeing. Shocking, BM couldn't beat us with 11 v 11 and in all honesty sadly bar a few seconds we were beating them with 10. Some of the tackles they did were atrocious yet nothing happen. It was a pathetic example of ref engineering results. Just as they did last year trying to get all English clubs out of all the competitions.

Jose was spot on to finally speak out about this nonsense just watching MOTD and few dogy ref calls on it, forget the technology all the refs need brought in and taught the ******* rules agin because they clearly make them up as they go along.'

They ought to bring reviews/challenges into football as well kinda like in tennis and cricket.

[Zoro 151]

Hugh?, Hazard WAS playing, he wasn't on the bench.

There was a very physically weak guy with zero pace and no sense of defensive responsibility on the bench though. I think it's that same guy who never turns up for the big games, and can't get into the spanish side, hmm.. starts with an 'M' doesn't it?

Lol who is this guy and why is he on a Chelsea FC forum?

[Gilvorak 3,734]

Mourinho disciples are extremely annoying. Now Mata is shit and was never good lol. Wow.

Nothing worse than the bellend that said it was the worst time to be a Chelsea fan though.

I don't mind defensive football against the likes of Barca and Bayern who are superior teams. Playing defensively against an average team like United is inexcusable though., wont last his full contract if it carries on.

There simply has to be a balance between attacking and easy on the eye football and a more defensive/counter attacking style.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Glad to have mourinho back, we've never had an identity since he left. When I say identity I mean, what type of football do we play?

Since mourinho left I couldn't just place it. Only during ancelloti's time did we enjoy an identity of possession football.

So finally,

Barcelona - possesion

Realmadrid - counter

Bayern - possesion

Dortmund - counter

Juventus - possesion

Chelsea - counter

We have an identity now

[Jase 43,479]

Can't agree with those who said the last 2 seasons was the worst under the era of Roman. It's ridiculous. Yes, we had many troubles and ups and downs in the 11/12 and 12/13 season but we ended up winning the Champions League, FA Cup and Europa League. If you want to talk about the worst, then look no further than the 10/11 season. Just came off the season of winning the Premier League and FA Cup but never even got close to defend those titles. On top of that, our performances in the Champions League were hardly inspiring either and in fact, none of our performances that season was any good. The players stagnated and our play was dull and there was nothing positive coming out from that season. The quality of players and play have since been improving and to think some would disregard what we did for the last two seasons, what certain players did and taking them for granted just because of all the talents we have got now is really pathetic!

[Term-X 7,891]

Oh yea, if he's that bad then how come a few months ago you used to have the back of Mata's shirt as your ava?

I've made my final comments on Mata with the response to Liquidator in regards to Oscar being the more tactically disciplined and thus superior option, and that's that. I will however address this..

I was playing devils advocate earlier on in the thread, I still appreciate what Mata brings to the table. Although Hazard is by far our best player, objectively. Mourinho being sacked was worse than Moscow for me, we lost a sense of identity as a club. In the grand scheme of things, Jose is more important than a mere 'pawn' (i.e single squad player).

[standup 28]

He got completely outclassed by Guardiola and is stirring up this nonsense to distract from it. Guardiola has his team playing football, whereas Mourinho has his best player benched and another variety of shit on a stick each game.

Outclassed? Did we lose on penalties or were we heavily defeated?

[Roquila 1,335]

First people want Mourinho back, then they want him gone then they want Mata to stay then they say Mata isn't good enough. I'm sorry but it must be my fault, you guys are too smart for me to understand.

[standup 28]

First people want Mourinho back, then they want him gone then they want Mata to stay then they say Mata isn't good enough. I'm sorry but it must be my fault, you guys are too smart for me to understand.

I know, it's unbelievable. The team still needs to gel and that will come. The team spirit is there. Be patient. In Jose we trust!

[Roquila 1,335]

I know, it's unbelievable. The team still needs to gel and that will come. The team spirit is there. Be patient. In Jose we trust!

I am sick and tired of people getting either on Mou's or Mata's side, WTF? They both are Chelsea and they both will play a big part of our Campaign this year.

Try to love, not to hate.