Rubber bullets 1,183 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Just leave him Kojo.I was tempted to respond to him yesterday for that bullshit attention-seeking comment, but I thought it best not to. Especially since he didn't bother respond to me when I ripped his retarded argument to shreds the last time he brought it up.He's either clueless or an attention-seeking idiot; either way, he isn't worth the time.Odd, I don't seem to remember you ripping my arguments to shreds on what was essentially a subjective debate. You must be another with deep insecurities to try and claim absolute truth on what is subjective debates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Annual 10M for Mourinho?http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/10m-annuels-pour-mourinho/373937?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#xtor=RSS-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Odd, I don't seem to remember you ripping my arguments to shreds on what was essentially a subjective debate. You must be another with deep insecurities to try and claim absolute truth on what is subjective debates.Nah mate, I presented you with facts that were completely contrary to your argument and you didn't even bother respond. So I find your use of the word 'debate' quite comical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 you really believe this. I don't know you but am very sure you are smarter than this.ya i do...tanks for that...thumps up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber bullets 1,183 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Nah mate, I presented you with facts that were completely contrary to your argument and you didn't even bother respond. So I find your use of the word 'debate' quite comical. What on how shit Essien was? I can't remember it and if I did not respond it was becuase it was probably us posting the same things over and over again that were going no where. Just like now where you're bringing up someting that happened yesterday but wanted to keep it going. Probably because you're the attention seeker with nothing beter to do but to try and create a flame war. Such pity I have for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg 1,824 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 To solve this problem we should just ban @ . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Is this argument still going on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Can we please stay on topic? Please, take the Essien debates to his thread and the petty fights to PMs.Thanks. Heisenberg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber bullets 1,183 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 To solve this problem we should just ban @ .Of course if that happened then it would be a case of abuse of power. Since I (in my mind) have not broken any rules (except maybe derailing the thead, but then you and others are as guilty as well) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! gr123 167 Posted May 26, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted May 26, 2013 To solve this problem we should just ban @ .For having an opinion that you dont agree with? Christ. Rubber bullets, laura90, Fernando and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumps 284 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 In Mourinho i trust. if he saw fit to play Essien then why not? i like him, on his day he is superb. he attacks and tracks back, hes versatile and he has experience. Having said that, i do only think he was playing so often in Madrid due to the amount of fall outs within the squad... Essien played RB towards the end of the season...Still waiting for the confirmation, although everyone is 99.9% sure, im not resting till i see him in blue!Well excited for the transfer window as well, keen to see who he brings in and lets go. with Paulo, Malouda and Yossi going, itll be interesting to see if he's going to buy some able players to add depth or if he will put faith in our youth and promote some of them. also very interested to see what happens to Lukaku and KDB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Regardless of the validity of the article, I am of the opinion that ANYONE could go for the right price, and £35M for Luiz would be just that. If it did happen, I'd be sad to see him go, but £35M is a significant amount that screams overvaluation from the buyer.This is the point & Mourinho will understand this concept more than anyone.. No player is bigger than the club and if the right offer was made, one which wouldn't happen otherwise, we'd bite their hands off. That's what top clubs do.AC Milan; Kaka, Thiago Silva & IbrahimovicMan United; Ronaldo, Van Nistelrooy, BeckhamReal Madrid; Robben, Snejider & many, many more... Fernando, Kieran., Peace. and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr123 167 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Well excited for the transfer window as well, keen to see who he brings in and lets go. with Paulo, Malouda and Yossi going, itll be interesting to see if he's going to buy some able players to add depth or if he will put faith in our youth and promote some of them. also very interested to see what happens to Lukaku and KDB.I second that - however if the rumours are true that were going on another massive spending spree, then I'll be pissed off. Its about time we stopped being seen as 'buying the league' and actually lived within our means for once rather than borrowing 'daddys' American express. The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersonBLUE 819 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Would trust Jose in every decision he makes but selling Luiz? All it takes is a conversation and different training to get what Jose wants him to do. Luiz is a great player and can completely boss the game on his day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 I think there are 2 chances we will sell luiz. Slim and none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 I think I asked this once before, but since this is looking very likely now, I'll ask it again: How much power would you give Jose in the team? Personally, I have major reservations of getting him involved in player contracts. He completely screwed Inter over with the wages and length of contracts he offered for a group of players who were reaching the twilight of their careers. Peace., Rubber bullets, The Mak and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 I think I asked this once before, but since this is looking very likely now, I'll ask it again: How much power would you give Jose in the team? He'd have a voice, but I like the system we have in place at this point in time. Jose has to fit into this club as it is in 2013. Stingray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 I think I asked this once before, but since this is looking very likely now, I'll ask it again: How much power would you give Jose in the team? Personally, I have major reservations of getting him involved in player contracts. He completely screwed Inter over with the wages and length of contracts he offered for a group of players who were reaching the twilight of their careers. The thing is, everyone looks at how Wenger runs Arsenal and how Ferguson ran United etc, but they're only able to do this because when they first came in they were expected to control those aspects.At present, no manager in the world has that level of control in their club. Moyes won't have power of contracts at United. He'll tell them the type of player he wants and they will go out and find it. He might approve the final decision once they bring him the player, but youth signings won't be made by him. The level of power Mourinho should have is 100% of his squad. No-one tells him who/who not to play (so players like Malouda shouldn't be unavailable if they're at the club). He should have a say on transfer targets, but not their contracts.With renewals.. He should be allowed to say who should/shouldn't get a renewal, but he should also accept that the finances should be able to match up to those decisions. I believe this is where the biggest problem will be. This coming season, it will be the last year of Terry, Lampard & Cole's contracts & if Mourinho has a different approach to them than the board, we could have a problem. manpe, The Mak, Peace. and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 I think I asked this once before, but since this is looking very likely now, I'll ask it again: How much power would you give Jose in the team? Personally, I have major reservations of getting him involved in player contracts. He completely screwed Inter over with the wages and length of contracts he offered for a group of players who were reaching the twilight of their careers. I think he should have a big say in what players we get but the final decision should still be with the club.Contract details should also be handled by the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 He'd have a voice, but I like the system we have in place at this point in time. Jose has to fit into this club as it is in 2013. Exactly, I like the current system too despite all that was made in the Cole and Lampard sagas this season, I was honestly not too bothered because I believe that this system is taking us in the right direction.The thing is, everyone looks at how Wenger runs Arsenal and how Ferguson ran United etc, but they're only able to do this because when they first came in they were expected to control those aspects.At present, no manager in the world has that level of control in their club. Moyes won't have power of contracts at United. He'll tell them the type of player he wants and they will go out and find it. He might approve the final decision once they bring him the player, but youth signings won't be made by him. The level of power Mourinho should have is 100% of his squad. No-one tells him who/who not to play (so players like Malouda shouldn't be unavailable if they're at the club). He should have a say on transfer targets, but not their contracts.With renewals.. He should be allowed to say who should/shouldn't get a renewal, but he should also accept that the finances should be able to match up to those decisions. I believe this is where the biggest problem will be. This coming season, it will be the last year of Terry, Lampard & Cole's contracts & if Mourinho has a different approach to them than the board, we could have a problem.I honestly don't think that the Wenger and Ferguson models cannot be imitated nowadays even if we do give him full control over everything. I can already foresee a problem between Jose and the board regarding the contracts next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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