The Mourinho Thread

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

Iva : " For Every Player It's a big Challenge to Play for a big Manager "...

[Jase 43,479]

I totally agree, but again, lets face it : The after Cole will be difficult, because we were used to world class performances mainly in big matches and Shaw/VanAnnholt or Ryan wont be near Cole's level.I dont believe PVA will ever put the CFC shirt again, since he is in the Eredivisie we arent talking about a possiblitie of coming back, I think the'll sell him as they done with Matic.

Luke Shaw is a great prospect but will José and the direction put money on such young & inexperienced player for such important position ? I hope they'll have the guts to do.Ryan Bertrand is and will always be a bench warmer here, he is good defensively, but overall nothing exceptionnal offensively and I dont see him playing regularly here, better for him to go elsewhere.

So there is only Coentrao as a possible replacement for Cole, he is good, played big competition and with the right attitude he could progress.

Funny. You said Coentrao can still improve because he's still young and not taking the same view on Bertrand and he's younger than Coentrao. The latter is better offensively but a suspect defensively and what you first want in a full back is the ability to defend properly, which Bertrand will give us that. And who's to say then, with Mourinho, Bertrand won't improve on his offensive play?

As for Mourinho not having faith in someone as young as Shaw? Didn't he integrated Varane into the Madrid and eventually play him including trusting him in some of their big games as well? And also, Mourinho gave Davide Santon his full debut at Inter when he was only 18 and was played quite a lot till a serious injury hampered him. If Shaw is good and more importantly, a player that Mourinho likes, then he will definitely not be afraid to play him a lot in games.

[Heisenberg 1,824]

Funny. You said Coentrao can still improve because he's still young and not taking the same view on Bertrand and he's younger than Coentrao. The latter is better offensively but a suspect defensively and what you first want in a full back is the ability to defend properly, which Bertrand will give us that. And who's to say then, with Mourinho, Bertrand won't improve on his offensive play?

As for Mourinho not having faith in someone as young as Shaw? Didn't he integrated Varane into the Madrid and eventually play him including trusting him in some of their big games as well? And also, Mourinho gave Davide Santon his full debut at Inter when he was only 18 and was played quite a lot till a serious injury hampered him. If Shaw is good and more importantly, a player that Mourinho likes, then he will definitely not be afraid to play him a lot in games.

Every young players can develop, not all does.

Luke Shaw may be wanted by Mourinho, if the direction and the ones who control transfers does not want him, we wont see him pulling the Blue shirt, I'm not a specialist in this case, but José isnt going to control all the transfers will he ?

[Rmpr 8,977]

Mourinho, can you please bring the good players from your agente and not the shit ones?

[Heisenberg 1,824]

Mourinho, can you please bring the good players from your agente and not the shit ones?

He isnt that bad Coentrao

[Jase 43,479]

Every young players can develop, not all does.

Does that mean Bertrand won't develop? No. Some players are late bloomers.

Luke Shaw may be wanted by Mourinho, if the direction and the ones who control transfers does not want him, we wont see him pulling the Blue shirt, I'm not a specialist in this case, but José isnt going to control all the transfers will he ?

Mourinho won't have 100% control in the transfers but he'll definitely has his say in it, which includes convincing/getting the club to get certain players in. He, after all, is still the manager. And besides, it's not like we haven't been linked with Shaw...

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

Coentrao would be fine. For one year, he and Cole could split time with Coentrao also maybe getting some time elsewhere (RB, LM, DM, etc...)

[Heisenberg 1,824]

Does that mean Bertrand won't develop? No. Some players are late bloomers.

Mourinho won't have 100% control in the transfers but he'll definitely has his say in it, which includes convincing/getting the club to get certain players in. He, after all, is still the manager. And besides, it's not like we haven't been linked with Shaw...

Late bloomers or not, we cant wait for some to flourish.At the end of the day we'll closely watch the direction choices, I hope as every CFC fan they'll take the best decisions because a LB is as important as the striker.

[Jase 43,479]

Late bloomers or not, we cant wait for some to flourish.At the end of the day we'll closely watch the direction choices, I hope as every CFC fan they'll take the best decisions because a LB is as important as the striker.

Tell that to Drogba...

Bertrand is not a flashy player but if he can continue developing with his already solid defending and improve on his attacking play, I honestly don't see why we should just dump Bertrand to one side. And sometimes, some players just need the right manager to 'unlock' them..

[Heisenberg 1,824]

Tell that to Drogba...

Bertrand is not a flashy player but if he can continue developing with his already solid defending and improve on his attacking play, I honestly don't see why we should just dump Bertrand to one side. And sometimes, some players just need the right manager to 'unlock' them..

We didnt brough Drogba when he was 21, we did it when he was exceptionnal at Marseille.

I understand and I agree, its a choice, Bertrand or Coentrao, simple.If Bertrand is "unlocked" as you say under Mourinho we'll win a player's confidence and a true blue, if Coentrao comes in and play fantastically we'll say we took the good decision and move on.

[Jase 43,479]

We didnt brough Drogba when he was 21, we did it when he was exceptionnal at Marseille.

The point being he didn't exactly became the beast that he was till around 30s, did he?

I understand and I agree, its a choice, Bertrand or Coentrao, simple.If Bertrand is "unlocked" as you say under Mourinho we'll win a player's confidence and a true blue, if Coentrao comes in and play fantastically we'll say we took the good decision and move on.

Nice way of taking the middle ground there. The thing is why even bother buying Coentrao when we have good options available now? Other areas should be more of a key concern first as well.

[nono 791]

This isn't playstation. Shaw isn't in the discussion because he'll cost a shit load more. Coentrao and Bertrand can fight it out for the succession to Ashley's high throne.

[Heisenberg 1,824]

The point being he didn't exactly became the beast that he was till around 30s, did he?

Nice way of taking the middle ground there. The thing is why even bother buying Coentrao when we have good options available now? Other areas should be more of a key concern first as well.

Good options ? One option, Ryan Bertrand.

[Magic Lamps 11,653]

We have PvA, Bertrand and Cole... Talking about Coentrao is just as much fantasy as talking about Shaw, but one of them sounds more appealing to me.

[Jase 43,479]

Good options ? One option, Ryan Bertrand.

As of now, we still have Cole and Bertrand. Could even count in PVA if you want.

[Beepu 1,714]

I think we are fine for LB. Bertrand might not be the best but he is decent backup, Cole has not been the same player but he is perfectly capable. Rumour that Luke Shaw would go for 10m. I dont know how reliable that is, but I would prefer to get him next season after Cole's contract ends. Coentrao reminds me of Zhirkov, although if the club wants him to replace Cole next year than im sure it wouldnt end the same way as Zhirkov.

[Heisenberg 1,824]

As of now, we still have Cole and Bertrand. Could even count in PVA if you want.

Sure if we are purely talking about the next season we have two good LB, but as you know Cole wont last forever so lets prepare his replacement this year rather than waiting if Bertrand can raise his game.I think next year José should involve Ryan more and more if he feels he is up to the challenge, I still think buying Shaw next season would be the best thing but who knows what will happen then.

[mediator 2,026]

I can't remember 1 accurate cross made by Cole this season, same for Bert, while Azpi offers much more.

Coentrao would be a great addition to our team.