The Mourinho Thread

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Yesterdays game showed exactly why i don't rate Mourinho THAT high.

Ozil as a winger... all balls to CR... you can't do that against a well organised side with lots of automatisms and great players.

Ozil didnt play as a winger.

and if you dont rate Mourinho THAT high then you clearly haven't followed his career very closely.

[bushman 2,043]

Since Roman has & spends plenty of money, I see no problem seeing Chelsea going places, next year, the year after..just keep going. This club has one great future now & will have under Roman´s guidance.

Chelsea is not a club & the owner is not willing to wait for 3-5 years to see young players coming on board & winning trophies, then.

Therefore, Roman buys ready made superstars, & the club is winning. See the stats for the past 9 years.

[Special Juan 27,473]

Massive Jose fan, massive Falcao fan, I would be delighted if this came to fruition.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Since Roman has & spends plenty of money, I see no problem seeing Chelsea going places, next year, the year after..just keep going. This club has one great future now & will have under Roman´s guidance.

Chelsea is not a club & the owner is not willing to wait for 3-5 years to see young players coming on board & winning trophies, then.

Therefore, Roman buys ready made superstars, & the club is winning. See the stats for the past 9 years.

Except we don't and we haven't for the last two years. Look at our transfer record, the closest player to a 'superstar' that we signed was Hazard.

In fact at the start of Roman's reign we didn't buy 'superstars' but players on the cusp, like Drogba, Robben and Cech. It's when we started chasing the Shevchenkos, Decos and ultimately Torres of this world that things started to fall apart.

Oh, and last season we were the 6th best team in England. There's a massive difference between being the Champions of Europe and being the best club in Europe.

[IkE 267]

That's simple to do, let's be honest we need a long-time plan, and for that Mourinho would be the best if he agrees to stay for long. The first year won't expect to win something and that's it.

I'm just in this community for less than one week, and I feel a lack of faith and passion in some of their users.

You can't expect to win the CL and the next year do it again, because it's almost impossible to do! Let's be patient, and walk slow. We need to build the team, we have figures to do it properly (KDB, Hazard, Mata, Lukaku, David Luiz, Courtois even players like Ramires!) but we will have to finish adding some other players and they will not perform perfectly and 100% since day one, it will take time to create a good teamwork.

With players like Falcao that are already SuperStars and can play easily in almost every team it will be easier. But let's be honest, we are the actual European Champions and some of you guys feel so depressed, see Real Madrid? They have spent +300M € and they haven't had the title for long time.

With Mourinho, Falcao, DM, CB, RB and our loaned players (KDB, Lukaku, Courtois) we can do good, really good.

Faith.

[bushman 2,043]

Except we don't and we haven't for the last two years. Look at our transfer record, the closest player to a 'superstar' that we signed was Hazard.

In fact at the start of Roman's reign we didn't buy 'superstars' but players on the cusp, like Drogba, Robben and Cech. It's when we started chasing the Shevchenkos, Decos and ultimately Torres of this world that things started to fall apart.

Oh, and last season we were the 6th best team in England. There's a massive difference between being the Champions of Europe and being the best club in Europe.

if I were you, I would add Mata, Oscar as future superstars to your portfolio.

Yes, Chelsea bought some duds. However, Roman can afford to make mistakes. This man is a billionaire. 50m is peanuts for him.

As for finishing 6th last year. There were many circumstances as to why. After all, Chelsea ended winning the CL, then.

CL is the best competition in Europe. A true indication how good the clubs are. Nothing compares to it.

[The only place to be 11,313]

if I were you, I would add Mata, Oscar as future superstars to your portfolio.

Yes, Chelsea bought some duds. However, Roman can afford to make mistakes. This man is a billionaire. 50m is peanuts for him.

As for finishing 6th last year. There were many circumstances as to why. After all, Chelsea ended winning the CL, then.

CL is the best competition in Europe. A true indication how good the clubs are. Nothing compares to it.

I'm not talking about future superstars though am I. I'm talking about guys who are already at that level.

It's true that Roman can spunk money up the wall, but you know who can't do that? Chelsea Football Club. If he wants to buy Ronaldo and Messi then he can, but unfortunately he can't put it on our books unless Gazprom are bankrolling us to the tune of £200 million per season.

As for the Champions League it's a great competition but the league is the bread and butter. That's the true measure of how good you are in my opinion. For all the money, lustre and fireworks associated with the CL, it's still just a cup competition at the end of the day. We were the sixth best team in England and for all the excuses we can think up, the real reason was that there were five teams better than us. After all the millions spent, that is a total failure.

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

I think people have reservations because they've seen what happens when you value short-term thinking over long-term planning and are worried that we're going to make the same mistakes again.

Yes Mourinho is a winner, but the job he'd be asked to do here is something he's NEVER done before. We need to build something sustainable, incorporating young players and creating our own stars rather than buying them. I'm not saying he can't do that but there are certainly question marks.

The same applies to Falcao. He's a great player but he's completely unproven in the Premier League, he's expensive and he's going to be 28 halfway through next season. Personally I'm not that keen on Cavani either and would've liked to have seen Lukaku given a chance to earn a starting job here next season alongside Ba and Schurrle.

I still expect schurrle to arrive but falcao would obviously fill the main role. We cant really accuse chels of short term thinking since we are out buying up young talent from around the world. Despite the concerns I dont think kdb or courtois will be allowed to leave in any deals, loan maybe but not permanently. I know jose likes to buy big stars but in fairness he doesnt go to clubs and completely gut them so what hed be doing here would be no different to what hes done before. Lampard,jt,cech et al weren't established world superstars when jose arrived, not much difference. As for falcao being 28 in the middle of next season I wouldnt worry too much, hes still to peak! Plenty of good years ahead of him

[IkE 267]

I still expect schurrle to arrive but falcao would obviously fill the main role. We cant really accuse chels of short term thinking since we are out buying up young talent from around the world. Despite the concerns I dont think kdb or courtois will be allowed to leave in any deals, loan maybe but not permanently. I know jose likes to buy big stars but in fairness he doesnt go to clubs and completely gut them so what hed be doing here would be no different to what hes done before. Lampard,jt,cech et al weren't established world superstars when jose arrived, not much difference. As for falcao being 28 in the middle of next season I wouldnt worry too much, hes still to peak! Plenty of good years ahead of him

Totally agree guy you buddy. Falcao is not a pace-guy, he could be playing top games for long long time. I'm just scared about Courtois, they can not sell him to Atlético. Peter Cech is one of the best Keepers but he feels more insecure this season, and I believe is the age, anytime soon he will need to be replaced.

[bushman 2,043]

I'm not talking about future superstars though am I. I'm talking about guys who are already at that level.

It's true that Roman can spunk money up the wall, but you know who can't do that? Chelsea Football Club. If he wants to buy Ronaldo and Messi then he can, but unfortunately he can't put it on our books unless Gazprom are bankrolling us to the tune of £200 million per season.

As for the Champions League it's a great competition but the league is the bread and butter. That's the true measure of how good you are in my opinion. For all the money, lustre and fireworks associated with the CL, it's still just a cup competition at the end of the day. We were the sixth best team in England and for all the excuses we can think up, the real reason was that there were five teams better than us. After all the millions spent, that is a total failure.

I see no problem calling Gazprom. It´s just a matter of one phone call & I am happy to know it.

CL is much better competition than any league. I assume you watched the last two games. Football at its best.

Whether Roman spends millions..well as I said, money is no object to him. Even you should be happy to have him financing Chelsea for years.

[The only place to be 11,313]

I still expect schurrle to arrive but falcao would obviously fill the main role. We cant really accuse chels of short term thinking since we are out buying up young talent from around the world. Despite the concerns I dont think kdb or courtois will be allowed to leave in any deals, loan maybe but not permanently. I know jose likes to buy big stars but in fairness he doesnt go to clubs and completely gut them so what hed be doing here would be no different to what hes done before. Lampard,jt,cech et al weren't established world superstars when jose arrived, not much difference. As for falcao being 28 in the middle of next season I wouldnt worry too much, hes still to peak! Plenty of good years ahead of him

At the moment I'm excited but cautious. I think the reality is that we're going to get a different Mourinho from the one we had 6 years ago and that's not unexpected. People change and this experience at Madrid could be a humbling one in some ways.

He's a great coach and a great leader, but he's still got to come here and do the job. The day we hire him (IF we hire him) will be a great day, but I'm looking forward to what he does the day after. I want to see what he says about our young players when he gets them together and I want him to be involved in planning the development of the Bogas and Musondas in our squad.

The same goes for Falcao. Great player, great attributes, 0 goals in the Premier League. I'll be excited but until he starts scoring goals against Norwich and Newcastle I'm going to be a little worried.

I see no problem calling Gazprom. It´s just a matter of one phone call & I am happy to know it.

CL is much better competition than any league. I assume you watched the last two games. Football at its best.

Whether Roman spends millions..well as I said, money is no object to him. Even you should be happy to have him financing Chelsea for years.

I'm not saying the CL isn't better quality, but the domestic league has got to be the first priority. I want this club to be the best team in Europe, and that means being the best team in England first.

[bushman 2,043]

At the moment I'm excited but cautious. I think the reality is that we're going to get a different Mourinho from the one we had 6 years ago and that's not unexpected. People change and this experience at Madrid could be a humbling one in some ways.

He's a great coach and a great leader, but he's still got to come here and do the job. The day we hire him (IF we hire him) will be a great day, but I'm looking forward to what he does the day after. I want to see what he says about our young players when he gets them together and I want him to be involved in planning the development of the Bogas and Musondas in our squad.

The same goes for Falcao. Great player, great attributes, 0 goals in the Premier League. I'll be excited but until he starts scoring goals against Norwich and Newcastle I'm going to be a little worried.

I'm not saying the CL isn't better quality, but the domestic league has got to be the first priority. I want this club to be the best team in Europe, and that means being the best team in England first.

Falcao is the hottest goal scorer around. if he won´t succeed in PL then where is he going to...? I see him, scoring around 35 goals if he comes.

Domestic league is secondary to CL. Chelsea may finish in top four & still win CL trophy. If they win PL, be it. It´s fine with me.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

One result and Mourinho doesn't know anything about football... I fully expect Madrid to win in the Bernebeu - whether they go through or not will be seen. José wasn't outdone tactically last night, but his team were poor defensively and Dortmund capitalised.

[bushman 2,043]

One result and Mourinho doesn't know anything about football... I fully expect Madrid to win in the Bernebeu - whether they go through or not will be seen. José wasn't outdone tactically last night, but his team were poor defensively and Dortmund capitalised.

That´s it. REAL were poor defensively, very poor, just plain shitty, I might add.

To allow Lewand to roam so freely was criminal, I feel.

[Special Juan 27,473]

I really cannot believe for one minute Jose sent his team out under prepared, if anything, his players let him down badly. Some very average performances from them, I'm not taking anything from Dortmund as they deserve massive credit.

[bushman 2,043]

I really cannot believe for one minute Jose sent his team out under prepared, if anything, his players let him down badly. Some very average performances from them, I'm not taking anything from Dortmund as they deserve massive credit.

Just one thing, I´d like to add here.

Some of the Real players are at odds with Jose. The team is not playing at comfort, I feel. He has benched some of them & I am sure it brought discontentment to the team. Jose is just about tired of it, in Real, I feel.

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

Totally agree guy you buddy. Falcao is not a pace-guy, he could be playing top games for long long time. I'm just scared about Courtois, they can not sell him to Atlético. Peter Cech is one of the best Keepers but he feels more insecure this season, and I believe is the age, anytime soon he will need to be replaced.

yeah as i say i dont think we will allow courtois to leave,another years loan is almost definite but a permanent move would be mad

[Styles 9,790]

Klopp has shown up Mourinho three times this season with a squad that cost a fraction of what Madrid's has. That is the sort of coach we need who will not only improve our players individually but can integrate young players and make them work as a team.

But we seem to be going to Mourinho route again and splashing another 50m+ on one player.