The Mourinho Thread

[blues.bridge 343]

Agreed, but they are supposed to be professionals. If you have a problem with the manager, go tell him. If he doesn't listen, go tell the board, the owner, whatever. But if you compromise the club's result in order to make the manager leave, then you are a traitor and you should be expelled as soon as possible from any club, not only Chelsea FC. There's no man bigger than the club, and that includes those "sensitive" pricks.

and if the board, the owner, whatever don't listen? What do you do?

[the wes 7,212]

the managers responsible for laying down the foundations for our success in the last 10 years were Hoddle , Gullit and RANIERI,,,

I would bring Ranieri back with Hoddle as Director of Football and Gullit and Zola in charge of the Academy

please no i cant stand glenn hoddle

[Jase 43,479]

Makes sense. After Stoke we have a 14-day break until next match.

But by then, the damage could be even worse than now, especially in the Champions League.

[Tomo 21,754]

The Cycling guruDave Berresford worked on the principle that tiny % improvements in a number of areas led to overall great improvements in performances and results .

His work tranfsormed British cycling from third rate to the Worlds best ... IMO the reverse principle also applies several small deteriorations leads to a major decline.

Lack of rotation causing burn and fatigue.

poor preaseason planning

lack of encouragement of young players

dreadful transfer window

I think as Peace said earlier the signs were there last year .. we are fans not professionals ,, But looking at the success of Southampton with their lack of resources

WHY did our Manager and management fail so badly .

I read an article in The Times I think talking of the lack of use of consultants in football .

It is true as well Jose chooses his assistants but they are hardly impartial . I wish we had someone like George Graham or even Souness acting in an advisory role

Tbh I kind of like our system with the assistants, we usually have a club assistant and the manager chooses one for himself, which gives both parties a sense of stability when there's parting company.

And I may be alone but I didn't think there were that big signs of this last season, we just played the footy in the first half and got it done in the second, Fergie had many of these type of seasons in reverse, I never thought we wouldn't win whereas now we can have Bournemouth at home next up and I'd strongly fear defeat.

[lucio 5,418]

Rather than sack Mourinho, a better option to me, seeing as we all know his skills,would be a player clear out of the under performers.

Rebuild in January as much as possible with hungry players. I dont want to keep harking back to Ferguson, but it is relevant as almost everyone was saying we need continuity when we'd sacked about 8.

Ferguson was allowed to build 3 complete squads during his tenure. Players who joined wanted to give their best - because of the status of Ferguson, mainly because he was Man Utd personified, and that was because of his length of legendary service.Theres no reason if we get through this without a rash sacking

and avoiding the Stamford Bridge revolving door, why Mourinho cant become a similar talisman.

ferguson probably gave chances to the academy boys , and didn't play hoofball

[Tomo 21,754]

But by then, the damage could be even worse than now, especially in the Champions League.

Not that I would ever cheer an opposition against Chelsea, but dropping to the Ropey league could be the best chance of us in the CL next season.

[HRiver 1,512]

Still think he shouldn't be given the sack. I think if he manages to turn it around - and if he is given the chance I believe he will - in the future nothing would stand in our way. We're probably not making top four at this point, but next season will be here before you know it. Missing out on Champions League after a season like this? I'll take it.

There is a reason why Roman hasn't sacked him yet, and I praise him for it.

[Fulham Broadway 17,810]

So many rumours flying about. About the grassing player etc

The one about Jose telling Ivanovich and Eva to end their affair, seems far fetched, but Googling Eva Carneiro and Ivanovich brings up a few results.

If he was fucking her, it explains a lot....

[zolayes 14,489]

Tbh I kind of like our system with the assistants, we usually have a club assistant and the manager chooses one for himself, which gives both parties a sense of stability when there's parting company.

And I may be alone but I didn't think there were that big signs of this last season, we just played the footy in the first half and got it done in the second, Fergie had many of these type of seasons in reverse, I never thought we wouldn't win whereas now we can have Bournemouth at home next up and I'd strongly fear defeat.

NO BIG signs lots of little signs .. Peace has identified most of them ,, SOMEONE at the club should have as well . Actually quite a lot of members expressed concern

during preseason and the transfer window

[Jase 43,479]

Not that I would ever cheer an opposition against Chelsea, but dropping to the Ropey league could be the best chance of us in the CL next season.

Would love to see Mourinho's reaction to that TBH, considering he's always criticized the competition.

[zolayes 14,489]

So many rumours flying about. About the grassing player etc

The one about Jose telling Ivanovich and Eva to end their affair, seems far fetched, but Googling Eva Carneiro and Ivanovich brings up a few results.

If he was fucking her, it explains a lot....

you mean Jose got jealous ..

[lucio 5,418]

Still think he shouldn't be given the sack. I think if he manages to turn it around - and if he is given the chance I believe he will - in the future nothing would stand in our way. We're probably not making top four at this point, but next season will be here before you know it. Missing out on Champions League after a season like this? I'll take it.

There is a reason why Roman hasn't sacked him yet, and I praise him for it.

probably because he fears a backlash/ dosen't want to lose money again. I doubt he actually has faith in this situation turning around.

[Fulham Broadway 17,810]

you mean Jose got jealous ..

Lol probably not. Its probably because brana is married.

[Amblève. 4,995]

If that is true I don't think is Matic, He didn't played last match, I think is between Oscar or Hazard..Hazard seems to be generally disinterested and not trying and he has delivered nothing so far this season.

Best scenario for us is to let Mourinho identify the problems and solutions and support him in the rebuilding process starting in January. imo

Rebuilding? Wtf

We really shouldn't have to rebuild a squad full of players in their primes/nearing their primes. This isn't a washed up 2011/12 Chelsea team, this team won the league last season ffs.

The lengths some will go to blame anyone but Mourinho is astonishing. I mean fuck, we're talking about a team that should be at its best currently as the majority of the team has spent 2 years now with the same coach and his system. The deadwood should have been gotten rid of a long time ago. Not to mention that this is the team Mourinho wanted, evidenced by not playing certain players and thus making them leave

[Tomo 21,754]

NO BIG signs lots of little signs .. Peace has identified most of them ,, SOMEONE at the club should have as well . Actually quite a lot of members expressed concern

during preseason and the transfer window

Pre season was when it hit me this season would be a bit shit for te standards set by the board/Roman (i didn't think it would ever have been this bad), I don't usually take much out of friendlys but something just wasn't right.

I didn't think before pre season our lack of transfers would hurt us immediately, constant failure to evolve a winning squad usually catches up with you after about 3-4 years, like it did with our last great team.

[Tomo 21,754]

probably because he fears a backlash/ dosen't want to lose money again. I doubt he actually has faith in this situation turning around.

Abramovic will face the backlash if it means doing what he believes is best, sacking Jose will probably have some people up in arms but would be nothing compared to the toxic atmosphere replacing RDM with Rafa caused.

[Tomo 21,754]

Rebuilding? Wtf

We really shouldn't have to rebuild a squad full of players in their primes/nearing their primes. This isn't a washed up 2011/12 Chelsea team, this team won the league last season ffs.

The lengths some will go to blame anyone but Mourinho is astonishing. I mean fuck, we're talking about a team that should be at its best currently as the majority of the team has spent 2 years now with the same coach and his system. The deadwood should have been gotten rid of a long time ago. Not to mention that this is the team Mourinho wanted, evidenced by not playing certain players and thus making them leave

Not attack wise but defensively we need a major rebuild, only Zouma, Cesar and Baba if he improves out of the current bunch should be in the squad long or even medium term never mind the first Xl.

[zolayes 14,489]

Pre season was when it hit me this season would be a bit shit for te standards set by the board/Roman (i didn't think it would ever have been this bad), I don't usually take much out of friendlys but something just wasn't right.

I didn't think before pre season our lack of transfers would hurt us immediately, constant failure to evolve a winning squad usually catches up with you after about 3-4 years, like it did with our last great team.

the Beresford theory lots of small changes ,, in our case in the wrong the direction .. or The Butterfly theory which means we could be non league in 5 years

[Rhino's Skin 972]

So many rumours flying about. About the grassing player etc

The one about Jose telling Ivanovich and Eva to end their affair, seems far fetched, but Googling Eva Carneiro and Ivanovich brings up a few results.

If he was fucking her, it explains a lot....

ref Eva......rumours another player involved as well.

[HRiver 1,512]

This isn't a washed up 2011/12 Chelsea team, this team won the league last season ffs.

This manager won the league last season too. I'm pretty sure these players didn't win the league on their own, it's not like they're so great that they're capable of winning league titles regardless of who is the manager.

I actually like Mourinho's philosophy, perform or you're out (Hazard, I'm looking at you)