Jase 43,479 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Essien19 and iceboy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 The worse part of this whole thing is it wasn't a penalty and the referee's decision was right. While Southampton themselves had two stonewall penalties that should have been given and we got away with them. Makes zero sense for what he said to Sky Sports.It's embarrassing from Mourinho honestly. Very embarrassing. If you're going to criticise the ref, at least make sense out of it and make good points. Because of his stupid actions, the team doesn't have Mourinho for one game. First Costa, now Mourinho. We are punishing ourselves.So what game havent we got him for????What Soton could have got is totally irrelevant.Leave that to their manager to say something which he definately would have done if they lost.Jose was just talking about decisions that benefit Chelsea and rightly so.He has taken one for the team but at least got his point out there.Posters who say he should spend more time focusing on the team rather than make crass comments after being asked a question are being ridiculous. Its not as if he spends hours on thinking up an answer to a potential question....it takes seconds out of his day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullabletype 987 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Excuse me? What valid point was he trying to make? I must have missed something during the interview.It's even more ridiculous that people are actually defending Mourinho for embarrassing himself.I guess he's referring to the complaints José was making all of last season. Didn't we have some ridiculous stat about the longest premier league run without a penalty and the most penalties not given or some such? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullabletype 987 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 But I don't see how that is irrelevant to what happened against Southampton, especially when the referee was correct in the first place.In the end, the penalty cry was Mourinho's attempt to distract us from seeing the real picture about how Chelsea performed. How does a penalty shout that wasn't given, deflate Chelsea? These players are suppose to be professionals, they have played the highest level of football for years. Heck, we were champions last season. It's a silly excuse.While some people will laugh when I say this, but I hope this is the last we see Mourinho behave like this. It's not doing us any favours.I agree it was the wrong comment to make at the time because it wasn't a penalty whilst the Southampton ones were. Whether he saw it or not or genuinely disagrees only Mourinho knows. I don't know that it was a deflection tactic though as his following rant went in to great detail about he and the squad being in a bad place, I think he was open about that. I think his overarching point was fair but ultimately devalued by the timing. I do agree with him in general though, I think referees try their best to put their mark on our games, not out of a bias but just to show who's boss. However, that means when they make a wrong decision, and they make plenty, it sticks out like a sore thumb. I'm also sympathetic towards his feelings on the FA because as it has been pointed out, Wenger's comments after our game went unpunished. José is a serial offender but that's irrelevant, the FA need to be consistent or rightly called out.His comments don't do us any favours but I don't think they have a particularly negative effect either. He gets fined, the papers write about it, the FA pat themselves on the back and the world moves on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Stadium ban hey? José really hit a nerve this time huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Well when you challenge the FA to punish you.-"if they want to punish me it is no problem" and when you also admit to punishable offense-" I am probably going to be punished for this" Not sure how anyone expected a different outcome. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Excuse me? What valid point was he trying to make? I must have missed something during the interview.It's even more ridiculous that people are actually defending Mourinho for embarrassing himself.you should read the Giles Smith column on main website....he has got it about right. Fulham Broadway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Well when you challenge the FA to punish you.-"if they want to punish me it is no problem" and when you also admit to punishable offense-" I am probably going to be punished for this" Not sure how anyone expected a different outcome.think everyone expected a fine and possibly a touchline ban...no one including you expected a suspended stadium ban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 But I don't see how that is relevant to what happened against Southampton, especially when the referee was correct in the first place.In the end, the penalty cry was Mourinho's attempt to distract us from seeing the real picture about how Chelsea performed. How does a penalty shout that wasn't given, deflate Chelsea? These players are suppose to be professionals, they have played the highest level of football for years. Heck, we were champions last season. It's a silly excuse.While some people will laugh when I say this, but I hope this is the last we see Mourinho behave like this. It's not doing us any favours.I hope its not the last....he needs to stand up and question certain factors just like every other manager.He just gets charged for it whilst others dont.....it quite simple really.I'd rather have a leader questioning stuff rather than being quiet and just taking it.He has got his point out there about decisions and now everyone will be watch8ng with extra interest to see if he has a point Essien19 and Fulham Broadway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 This is stupid. Mourinho is never going to win against the FA. Do you want him to have 3 straight stadium bans or something? What happened with Wenger and that defeat isn't the same. Yes Wenger criticised the referee, but everything he said was valid.wengers points were not valid at all.....it still critcized the ref.Some circles think we should have had a pen...some not. Some think that Sotons were also not pens....some do.Moutinho needs to speak and if there is a problem....highlight it.and where the hell 3 stdium bans come rom....he hasnt received on yet that he has to do Essien19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 He didnt threaten them...he challengrd them. Completely diiferent.I bet you would be moaning like hell if we had tons of decisions go against us and nothing was said by the manager. The points he talked about after Soton were not just about that but in general.At least the manager has the support of the board and of the match going fansLol, yes Wenger's points about the incident were valid. Costa should have been sent off. Red card offense. But of course, if you don't think he should be sent off then I'm not going to bother discussing that any further with you because you are clearly biased. In fact, why are we discussing Wenger? Irrelevant.Only a small group of Chelsea fans think Falcao should have gotten a penalty. Pundits, refs and the lot, don't. And if you think that blatant shirt pull with Ivanovic wasn't a penalty to Southampton then...If Mourinho is going to speak, at least not threaten the FA and make sure you don't come across as a moaner. And I'm sorry, what he said about not getting a penalty against Southampton will never fly with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 If you repeat the same offense, the harsher the punishment. If he criticises the ref again after his ban, they'll increase the fine and the stadium ban.Whether he challenged them or threatened them, that is not the way to handle things. The FA isn't going to sympathise with Mourinho behaving like that.I wouldn't be moaning at the manager, I will be moaning at the FA. I don't want Mourinho to criticise the FA or ref because not only he doesn't do it calmly, he is putting himself at risk for stadium bans. And right now, it's the LAST thing Chelsea Football Club needs.He hasnt even got to do one ....You are missing the whole point of his well put answer to the after match interviewer.Using Soton was just a folly and a platform for the real point he was getting across.The fact that there are a lot of irregularities with decisions during and after matches that are directly affecting Chelsea.He knew exactly what he was doing and it took Balls to do what he did knowing the conseqUences, l like thatTo quote respected Times journalist and season ticket Chelsea supporter Giles Smith'Not content with describing it as a rant, some analysts even sought to hand Joses comments a place on the list of great televised post-match meltdowns which would have been fine if it had been any kind of meltdown, rather than, actually, the very opposite: a solid, clear and properly thought-through assessment of the current, highly puzzling but by no means permanent situation, and a statement of some basic principles, appropriate to the moment.'And I agree Fulham Broadway and Essien19 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Lol, yes Wenger's points about the incident were valid. Costa should have been sent off. Red card offense. But of course, if you don't think he should be sent off then I'm not going to bother discussing that any further with you because you are clearly biased. In fact, why are we discussing Wenger? Irrelevant.Regardless of whether Wenger's points were valid or not, managers are not allowed to talk about referees before and after the game. Pretty sure the FA stated that clearly when they introduced the rule. But of course, the FA being FA, they have approached it with double standard. Some managers have gotten away without any punishment while some have been punished and Wenger was mentioned in this case because he criticized Mike Dean after the game at Stamford Bridge but wasn't punished. kc_blue, BlueLion., LDN Blue and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Pizy 19,377 Posted October 15, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 15, 2015 Pretty hilarious reading all of the journalists I follow on Twitter who would lick José's nuts and love every word he said before now pile on and criticize him at every opportunity when Chelsea are struggling. iceboy, Essien19, Blue Armour and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Reading reviews online that his book is just and overpriced picture book with a few words on each page. It's not worth the money at all. The book is so average - nothing special about the pictures (many of them can be found on Google) and descriptions (very short and no insight). Billy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,598 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Graeme le saux said harsh things about jose.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Graeme le saux said harsh things about jose....some rather generic stuff we have heard before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickpassnmove 924 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 It's not worth the money at all. The book is so average - nothing special about the pictures (many of them can be found on Google) and descriptions (very short and no insight).Ferguson's new book, Leading has good reviews. Might be the first ever book I buy from sport people. I'm more interested in usefulness as opposed to entertainment and nostalgia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Calm down mate, relax. It's not that bad.You're right. There's actually a chance now, albeit a small one, that Rui Faria or whoever is the coach doesn't follow Mourinho's bullshit tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,598 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 We must to stop to play against poor teams like they are minimum barcelona's level... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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