The Mourinho Thread

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Everybody changes.

Anyone who claims there the same person with the same perspective on things today as they were 6 or even 2 years ago is a liar.

I agree to some extent. Some people change huge in couple months, some are same for ages. Personal perspective on life can change big time, especialy between 16-20 (experienced myself haha), but a "happy" positive person can not change into "sad" negative or vice versa (speaking spontaneously, not due to family death or sth). Maybe some but not everyone. Some people are serious, some are making people smile, some need new challenges etc. You can change to some extent, but not completely. And Mou would have to become whole new person to stay here long time, work with youth and still succeed (and he has little clue there), change tactics bit more offensive etc.

I dont believe Jose changed THAT much. Something will come between him and club or he will simply want new challenge.

Since you mentioning, everyone who knows Mou and belives his quotes about staying here for long time and all that is either a liar or fool aswell.

From tactical sense to (no) Youth integration, Jose is still the same man he was in past.

Sorry to pop your bubble but there are few things chelsea fan realise eventualy.

Jose staying here is like Torres getting back to his best. You hope and hope but it wont happen. Maybe Jose wants to do saf, settle family, but if there wont be results or game he wants, Roman will do his part sooner or later.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

If he keeps changing his club he knows he won't have any legacy, he will never be remembered by any set of fans if he doesn't spend more than 3 years at a club and Mourinho knows this. He is determined to leave a mark on football and like Sir Alex Ferguson he can only do it by staying at one club

He already has legacy at porto chelsea and inter. Rm to extent.

He is worshiped in inter and chelsea.

Globaly one of best tactical managers of decade.

There are not many managers like Saf to stay 20 years at one club. You dont need to do that to make legacy in football anyways. Trophies are all that matter. And chelsea and Inter fans will forever have him in their hearts anyway.

If he wins CL with us and Inter becomes a force again, he will return there Imo.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Even if we lost against arsenal, I was happy we didn't park the bus. If we become unpredictable when teams don't know if we'll be defensive or balanced, it'll help us very well.

We just have to sort out the slow speed of our passing, you can't break down a defense if it can easily cover any space which the passing creates. Which means we need more passing practice and movement practice to develop patterns in attacking. We can't depend on Hazard taking the game into his own hands everytime.

[Jase 43,479]

Mourinho in fresh Wenger snub as Chelsea boss skips mandatory managers meeting in London before new Premier League season

Simply the best :blue scalf: :blue scalf:

More stupid sensationalism from Daily Mail.

[Special Juan 28,868]

When asked if the pursuit of Stones is dead on talkSPORT on Wednesday morning, Mourinho replied: 'I repeat the same thing every season. For me, the transfer window is over. I don’t like the transfer window when competition starts.'

'I know it is open and my club is able to buy or sell, but I don’t like that feeling. As a football coach I am now thinking about my players, about my squad and I don’t want to think about the transfer window.

'What happens happens, but I’m not going to lose one minute of my time thinking about the transfer window and I’ll try to get the best out of my players.

'These are the rules and I have to adapt but I don't think about it.'

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

When asked if the pursuit of Stones is dead on talkSPORT on Wednesday morning, Mourinho replied: 'I repeat the same thing every season. For me, the transfer window is over. I dont like the transfer window when competition starts.'

'I know it is open and my club is able to buy or sell, but I dont like that feeling. As a football coach I am now thinking about my players, about my squad and I dont want to think about the transfer window.

'What happens happens, but Im not going to lose one minute of my time thinking about the transfer window and Ill try to get the best out of my players.

'These are the rules and I have to adapt but I don't think about it.'

That's it.. we're doomed

[Madmax 9,219]

[Muzchap 8,966]

What we have now is what we've got until Jan anyway...

It's a strange one

I really wanted to see Mikel move on and maybe keep Ramires as an impact sub - with the hope some of the long fabled youth might be given a run...

My only concern is that come Xmas - if we're not doing what we expected on the pitch it could cause some overpriced panic buying - which would really piss me off as we have had this window to potentially sort out 'dead wood'

What's the old army saying? Fail to Plan, plan to fail? Or was it the seven p's?

Prior

Planning &

Preparation

Prevent

Piss

Poor

Performance

Oh well - should be an exciting season and if UTD sign Pedro - they're almost back to square 1 with a completely new team. It will take then some time to gel. City look like getting KdB - but not sure how useful he will be for them...

Liverpool could again be a surprise package - but I hope not

Our only problem as I can see it - is creativity, we need a backup for Eden - not something we currently have

[Special Juan 28,868]

'For me, the transfer window is over

'I know it is open and my club is able to buy or sell

'What happens happens

Just wait and see is my advice to everyone on this.

[stroey 2,525]

I'm sorry if these were posted before, but great little interview with Jose:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdJcxd35wV4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx8-O8MJs44

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc8PrdgCCIw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T0X7SaXWB4

Jose confirmed in the interview with ESPN that he actually wants to improve his squad but ''loyalty'' is holding him back from doing it. (video 1) He said he waits for the unhappy players to go but doesn't want to go to a player and tell him to get out. (1 out 1 in policy from the board). The only player who's getting a silent treatment is Cuadrado, didn't play vs Barca and Arsenal while we could sub more than 3 players.

Normally Jose's strengthens/fine tunes his squads after a title win, even with not so expensive players, so what he's doing is not typical Jose.

Examples: (Only important signings included)

2004-05 title win: next summer bought Essien, SWP

2005-06 title win: next summer got Ballack, Sheva, A.Cole

2008-09 title win: next summer Sneijder, Eto'o, Lucio, Milito, Pandev, Motta etc.

2011-12 title win: next summer Modric, Diego Lopez

2014-15 title win: next summer ???

And I actually believe that our squad will be weaker than last season. Let's compare both squads:

Luis - Baba?? = a top 5 CL left back for a talent

Schurrle - Moses = a clinical proven goal scoring winger for a decent EPL squad player, I prefer Schurrle.

Salah - Cuadrado = 4th winger for 4th winger, both are not trusted by Jose.

Cech - Begovic = lost a top 5 GK, but we got the best thinkable replacement

Drogba - Falcao = a plan B in pinch-hitter Drogba for Falcao, a 50-50 situation currently, Falcao could be an improvement.

Cech and Didier out = two leaders in dressing room, could only be replaced if you compensate it with other qualities.

Other questions:

- Diego Costa fit - unfit Diego = fired 9 goals in his first 5 matches, currently his fitness is uncertain, will he be out for 1-2 months over and over again?

- JT, Ivanovic are 1 year older, can we expect them to be better or even be as a good as last season? Remains a big question mark.

- Eden reached an unreal level, carried the team and was injury free, can we expect that to happen again?

If the 1 out 1 in policy is true, I hope Mikel somehow leaves this window (for Witsel). I like his behavior a lot and see him as a true blue but we should remove him if we want to improve.

[1chelsea 864]

Well his not giving anything away that is what I think........

[termninja 5,290]

I really hope we're held down by waiting for Salah and Cuadrado to leave, and similar with Mikel. Something is just strange, we're barely linked with anybody except Stones and Rahman...

So painful to see others bring players while we stagnate, our squad doesn't have needed squad depth at all for what are the goals for the coming season.

Yes we have a good squad but we will will succumb to the fierce tempo of PL, no winter break and constant pressure we will be on.

Looks like it's going to be 2011/2012 all over again...

Damn.

[MefiX19 1,092]

I really hope we're held down by waiting for Salah and Cuadrado to leave, and similar with Mikel. Something is just strange, we're barely linked with anybody except Stones and Rahman...

So painful to see others bring players while we stagnate, our squad doesn't have needed squad depth at all for what are the goals for the coming season.

Yes we have a good squad but we will will succumb to the fierce tempo of PL, no winter break and constant pressure we will be on.

Looks like it's going to be 2011/2012 all over again...

Damn.

You mean we will gonna be shit, then sack Mourinho in January, new manager gonna be Klopp and he gonna lead us to CL glory, sending Tottenham to EL from they're hard worked 4th place

[termninja 5,290]

You mean we will gonna be shit, then sack Mourinho in January, new manager gonna be Klopp and he gonna lead us to CL glory, sending Tottenham to EL from they're hard worked 4th place

No, you got it all wrong mate, we'll buy out Benitez and bring him as interim manager to take care of Jose's mess [emoji38]

[Jase 43,479]

Jose Mourinho must build a Chelsea dynasty if he's to be an all-time great

[Fernando 6,743]

Jose Mourinho must build a Chelsea dynasty if he's to be an all-time great

Good article, I agree. It is why I said that if Mourinho is to be here for a while he needs to take chances with youth.

If the usual 3 to 4 years thing he will not care much.

So far we seen the latter, because like I said giving a game here and there ain't nothing if it's not sustain game time.

[CMS 382]

Jose confirmed in the interview with ESPN that he actually wants to improve his squad but ''loyalty'' is holding him back from doing it. (video 1) He said he waits for the unhappy players to go but doesn't want to go to a player and tell him to get out. (1 out 1 in policy from the board). The only player who's getting a silent treatment is Cuadrado, didn't play vs Barca and Arsenal while we could sub more than 3 players.

Normally Jose's strengthens/fine tunes his squads after a title win, even with not so expensive players, so what he's doing is not typical Jose.

Examples: (Only important signings included)

2004-05 title win: next summer bought Essien, SWP

2005-06 title win: next summer got Ballack, Sheva, A.Cole

2008-09 title win: next summer Sneijder, Eto'o, Lucio, Milito, Pandev, Motta etc.

2011-12 title win: next summer Modric, Diego Lopez

2014-15 title win: next summer ???

And I actually believe that our squad will be weaker than last season. Let's compare both squads:

Luis - Baba?? = a top 5 CL left back for a talent

Schurrle - Moses = a clinical proven goal scoring winger for a decent EPL squad player, I prefer Schurrle.

Salah - Cuadrado = 4th winger for 4th winger, both are not trusted by Jose.

Cech - Begovic = lost a top 5 GK, but we got the best thinkable replacement

Drogba - Falcao = a plan B in pinch-hitter Drogba for Falcao, a 50-50 situation currently, Falcao could be an improvement.

Cech and Didier out = two leaders in dressing room, could only be replaced if you compensate it with other qualities.

Other questions:

- Diego Costa fit - unfit Diego = fired 9 goals in his first 5 matches, currently his fitness is uncertain, will he be out for 1-2 months over and over again?

- JT, Ivanovic are 1 year older, can we expect them to be better or even be as a good as last season? Remains a big question mark.

- Eden reached an unreal level, carried the team and was injury free, can we expect that to happen again?

If the 1 out 1 in policy is true, I hope Mikel somehow leaves this window (for Witsel). I like his behavior a lot and see him as a true blue but we should remove him if we want to improve.

This interview confirmed my sentiments exactly.

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

If he could win another league title this season with this squad, Jose is the greatest manager of all time.

[Reddish-Blue 2,701]

We had the chance to strengthen our team in key areas, build on our success from last season...but Mourinho's stubborness/loyalty got in the way

Instead, we lost two quality players (Cech, Luis), a dressing room leader (Drogba) and we haven't signed anyone worthwhile.

Still don't get why we signed Falcao after seeing him struggle at United...he will be Torres 2.0 (minus the transfer fee)

[OhForAGreavsie 6,128]

We had the chance to strengthen our team in key areas, build on our success from last season...but Mourinho's stubborness/loyalty got in the way

Instead, we lost two quality players (Cech, Luis), a dressing room leader (Drogba) and we haven't signed anyone worthwhile.

Still don't get why we signed Falcao after seeing him struggle at United...he will be Torres 2.0 (minus the transfer fee)

I think you are reading the runes wrongly here R-B. It seems to me that Jose wanted/wants to strengthen. Clearly something is getting in the way of us achieving that aim but, whatever it is, it is not the manager's stubbornness.

As is the case with any manager, Jose has to say things designed to sound like he is satisfied with the situation. No manager can ever afford to say, my squad isn't good enough and we're in trouble. Consider all of his statements however, and it's hard to conclude anything other than that TSO knows we need reinforcements. If we can't get them then it's frustrating, but there must be good reasons for it.