The Board

[Tautvix 1,321]

58 minutes ago, Miki-Liki said:

To be honest, even if we had overpaid for Koulibaly instead of bringing back Luiz, the likes of Ivanovic and Cahill would still have played today, so I don't think it would have made a difference. Yes, the board may not have been successful in recruiting reinforcements, but that's why I think Conte ought to try out Chalobah, Aina and other boys, just like Tottenham a couple of seasons ago.

After signing Kante, Conte said we still need 3 or 4 new players. So imagine us signing Nainggolan who would probably replace Matic, Koulibaly instead of Luiz and let it be "someone" instead of Alonso. So knowing that Zouma is about to be back from injury and Terry who still looks far superior to the likes of Ivanovic and Cahill we would look like a good side. So again, it's not only about failing to buy 1 player. There are a lot of players we failed to buy. Jose and Pep I guess got everything they needed even before the season started, while Conte... I really feel for the guy  We can blame his late subs against Liverpool, we can blame high line today but there are things we cannot blame on him. He is not responsible if Cahill gives the ball away and he is not responsible for this stupid board. And remember this happens 2nd year in a row.

[Miki-Liki 405]

1 hour ago, Blue-in-me-Veins said:

Absolutely. But this is a two year thing with the board. (one might argue a 4 year thing, since the hiring of JM the second time round). 

They are trying to penny pinch their way back to the top because for some reason they have placed the future of Chelsea FC in the hands of Ivan/Cahill/Oscar/Matic/Willian/JT. 

 

 

It could be because of Torres that the board decided not to overpay, and there's also the stadium. And according to various sources, Roman has lost quite a lot of wealth. We're trying to do an "Arsenal", but I fear we're doing a Liverpool/Inter/Milan instead.

 

8 minutes ago, Tautvix said:

After signing Kante, Conte said we still need 3 or 4 new players. So imagine us signing Nainggolan who would probably replace Matic, Koulibaly instead of Luiz and let it be "someone" instead of Alonso. So knowing that Zouma is about to be back from injury and Terry who still looks far superior to the likes of Ivanovic and Cahill we would look like a good side. So again, it's not only about failing to buy 1 player. There are a lot of players we failed to buy. Jose and Pep I guess got everything they needed even before the season started, while Conte... I really feel for the guy  We can blame his late subs against Liverpool, we can blame high line today but there are things we cannot blame on him. He is not responsible if Cahill gives the ball away and he is not responsible for this stupid board. And remember this happens 2nd year in a row.

Wasn't Kante actually the alternative for Nainggolan? I haven't seen Koulibaly, so to claim he'd be better than Luiz would be a shot in the dark. Alonso, hasn't impressed me, and I agree that we could have signed someone else. Have we even been linked to any other LB this summer? Our defense is absolutely clueless without Terry, this has been proven today, and I hope Zouma will be decent after his return. Of course you can't blame everything on Conte, and he's right to say that everyone should take responsibility for the club's recent failures. But still, I think that he can do better, even with the current squad at his disposal.

 

[Despiadado.Maleante 1,046]

Dw people the 50 loans project will save us. We are the worse run club in the league.

[Jase 43,479]

9 hours ago, Blue-in-me-Veins said:

Somebody else on this forum said this but I cannot repeat it enough, and that is "why isn't Chelsea management as ruthless with underperforming players, as they are with managers". 

 

[Fernando 6,585]

I'm still surprised Conte hasn't been sack by now. 

But I do expect him to be gone by December because that's what these clowns are good for. 

[LDN Blue 7,903]

13 hours ago, Despiadado.Maleante said:

We are the worse run club in the league.

Getting more and more difficult to disagree with this. I explained a few days back why Manchester City are one of the best run clubs in the EPL right now, but Chelsea's regression seems to be more and more rapid. 

Roman needs to hold members at board level accountable and soon!

[BlueLyon 9,359]

The tables of city and chelsea have turned. 

Before we made wise buys, had good structure, identity and meanwhile city was throwing cash out of window for average players. 

Today its opposite. City brought smart people to the board and now also a very good coach. They have built good basis. But I still dont see them as what some would say family. Still a group of people, but they do have Guardiola now who might reshape the culture of the club.

Meanwhile we have regressed in every possible way. Perhaps we were just lucky to have all those players back then, great members in board like Kenyon, Wilkins etc and everything went fine.

Then came restructure after restructure, key people got tired of that and left, players have gotten old and new boards never managed to get us back on top 

The worst is, we let Kenyon go so quick, who did fantastic job but probably argued with Roman and got the boot. Meanwhile Marina who is doing fuck all, probably the worst director we had and still not fired. 

I like Roman, but I feel he is running the club on passion and emotions. Someone says something bad, he leaves. Someone kissing his ass and he stays. It should be run more professional, then we can get out of the shithole we are in. 

[Fernando 6,585]

The problem as well is the fans. 

They don't voice their opinions. One of the few times was with Benitez, which to me was a doing a good job and then we screw it up by getting Mourinho.... 

Look at how Liverpool fans acted with the increase of prices and the club caved in to the demands. Our fans will never do that. 

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Just now, Fernando said:

They don't voice their opinions. One of the few times was with Benitez. 

Fans have no say in this. You've seen what so called 'protests' have achieved at rival grounds like Emirates, it does nothing. We're at the bottom of the pile to influence any change, it has to come from within the club itself. It requires someone, preferably RA himself, to wake up and say "hang on a minute, maybe our structure at board level is affecting structure on pitch level". Until that happens this will be a repeating cycle.

[Fernando 6,585]

2 minutes ago, LDN Blue said:

Fans have no say in this. You've seen what so called 'protests' have achieved at rival grounds like Emirates, it does nothing. We're at the bottom of the pile to influence any change, it has to come from within the club itself. It requires someone, preferably RA himself, to wake up and say "hang on a minute, maybe our structure at board level is affecting structure on pitch level". Until that happens this will be a repeating cycle.

Surely some protest about the way the club is being run would go a long way....

[Despiadado.Maleante 1,046]

 

Well Said

[The Skipper 20,609]

We built a good young team with very interesting talents until Jose came. Jose sold our future for a PL title. Didn't manage the squad well at all hence why the likes of KDB, Mata, Lukaku and Schurrle left. Now we have squad players like Pedro and Moses. 

[robsblubot 3,595]

21 minutes ago, The Skipper said:

We built a good young team with very interesting talents until Jose came. Jose sold our future for a PL title. Didn't manage the squad well at all hence why the likes of KDB, Mata, Lukaku and Schurrle left. Now we have squad players like Pedro and Moses. 

I wouldn't call Mata a youngster or a player I miss terribly unless as a rotation option for whenever hazard is skulking.

I do miss all others you mentioned - perhaps Bats will prove to be at the same level or better than lukaku though (pretty young too). 

[bluephoenix 1,131]

The board needs to just back out from making any kind of decision with respect to buying/selling players. It is something the manager should be given full control of. If manager doesn't get the player he wants due to fund or any other crazy reason, the manager has to come up with another player who he thinks he can work with/ make the team work with.

It is really exhausting to see board make idiotic decisions with the transfer. We sold Mata, KDB, Luiz, Lukaku, ...etc when we didn't have a proper player to replace them. 

[coolhead23 1,147]

3 hours ago, bluephoenix said:

The board needs to just back out from making any kind of decision with respect to buying/selling players. It is something the manager should be given full control of. If manager doesn't get the player he wants due to fund or any other crazy reason, the manager has to come up with another player who he thinks he can work with/ make the team work with.

It is really exhausting to see board make idiotic decisions with the transfer. We sold Mata, KDB, Luiz, Lukaku, ...etc when we didn't have a proper player to replace them. 

Completely agree with u ... 

However, didnt we sell the likes of Mata, KDB, Lukaku because of the manager ... He didnt have them in the plans which forced the players to push for an exit. 

[BoyBlue96 990]

1 hour ago, coolhead23 said:

Completely agree with u ... 

However, didnt we sell the likes of Mata, KDB, Lukaku because of the manager ... He didnt have them in the plans which forced the players to push for an exit. 

Mata never made sense to me. Player of the year 2 times in a row but it seems that José knows better now as he is willing to give Juan a new contract.

Really hurts seeing him at ManUtd as he still could do an amazing job here...but Kevin de Bruyne hurts the most IMO. That guy is a top, top, TOP class player. Maybe world class....
Lukaku...don't know. Has way too many blah blah's.

Remember him saying at the end of the 2015/2016 season that he wanted to leave Everton for a UCL team? Hahaha wat a donkey, not ONE club showed any interests in him apart from us (if reports are true)

[Jase 43,479]

6 hours ago, Robguima said:

I wouldn't call Mata a youngster or a player I miss terribly unless as a rotation option for whenever hazard is skulking.

I do miss all others you mentioned - perhaps Bats will prove to be at the same level or better than lukaku though (pretty young too). 

Skipper said 'young team' rather than a team of 'youngsters'.

6 hours ago, The Skipper said:

We built a good young team with very interesting talents until Jose came. Jose sold our future for a PL title. Didn't manage the squad well at all hence why the likes of KDB, Mata, Lukaku and Schurrle left. Now we have squad players like Pedro and Moses. 

This has been mentioned many times before - the club wanted to play attacking, progressive football and they took the initiative to buy young and talented players to help achieve that style of play. But for some reason, they went and hired a manager whose style of play is the complete opposite of that and then allowed him to ruin their good work back then by selling those players and ending up with a bunch of braindead players.

Regarding Mata, I'm finding it incredible that Mourinho barely played him here but is now playing him a lot at United.

[bluephoenix 1,131]

On 9/26/2016 at 10:46 PM, coolhead23 said:

Completely agree with u ... 

However, didnt we sell the likes of Mata, KDB, Lukaku because of the manager ... He didnt have them in the plans which forced the players to push for an exit. 

Yeah that is true. We had a highly egoistic manager who screwed us badly :(.  Regardless our board has been making a lot of stupid purchases and sales. What was the point of selling Luiz and then buying him back? I would think we actually lost money in the whole transaction. I get when we sold and bought back Matic, *we thought he matured well, and maybe he did for that one season* but otherwise the board is making some really stupid mistakes.

Hopefully Conte gets enough time to sort this mess and build a proper team. I am sick of make fix managers. If the players can't listen to the manager throw the players out (it shouldn't be the other way around)

[DYC. 7,542]

Cech/Begovic

Azpilicueta/Aina - Christensen/Zouma - Luiz/Cahill - Luis/Bertrand

Fabregas/Oscar - Kante/Matic

Salah/Willian - De Bruyne/Mata - Hazard/Schurrle

Costa/Batshuayi

Who's got the cheat code to make this happen?

[communicate 2,703]

On 9/27/2016 at 4:32 PM, Jason said:

 

Regarding Mata, I'm finding it incredible that Mourinho barely played him here but is now playing him a lot at United.

It is because his first and second choice (Rooney and Mhky) AM are playing poorly. So he has no other option and whenever mata plays they look like a better team