BlueLion. 21,491 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Otamendi is much better than Stones. Stones has higher potential tho.Otamendi is a lot older, in fairness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanicus 5,208 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Otamendi is a lot older, in fairness.In normal situation I'd never in my wildest dreams consider paying so much money for a young defender. But we are not in the normal situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 In normal situation I'd never in my wildest dreams consider paying so much money for a young defender. But we are not in the normal situation.It's a calculated risk. If he plays for us for 10 years, like Luke Shaw will for Manchester United, it's a worthwhile investment. If we sign him, he shows no signs of improving and we dump he after 2-3 years, then it's money down the drain. It really can go either way with young English players because most of them have their heads up their own arses. Stones doesn't strike me as being that way. He seems quiet, unassuming, and dedicated to improving his game. I don't think I've ever even seen him do an interview. He has his feet on the ground and that's the type of kid we need; more players in the Zouma mould, rather than the Sterling one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 One decent season at Valencia and people suddenly think Otamendi is a good defender. He was an error prone player during his time at Porto.Otamendi is class. Lack of worldwide exposure playing for Valencia but you'll see if he joins City (damn them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Otamendi is class. Lack of worldwide exposure playing for Valencia but you'll see if he joins City (damn them).There's no lack of La Liga football at my place. If he can back up his form at City, then fair enough. But until then, I'm not convinced he's a good defender like some have talked about, especially after seeing him play for Porto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 It's a calculated risk. If he plays for us for 10 years, like Luke Shaw will for Manchester United, it's a worthwhile investment. If we sign him, he shows no signs of improving and we dump he after 2-3 years, then it's money down the drain. It really can go either way with young English players because most of them have their heads up their own arses. Stones doesn't strike me as being that way. He seems quiet, unassuming, and dedicated to improving his game. I don't think I've ever even seen him do an interview. He has his feet on the ground and that's the type of kid we need; more players in the Zouma mould, rather than the Sterling one.Indeed. United paid 30m+ for Ferdinand in 2002 and he went on to give them 10 good years of service, forming a solid partnership with Vidic and helping the club to win countless of trophies along the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 John Stones to Chelsea: Everton reject £30million bidThis Stones transfer saga is really infuriating. We know how much Everton want for Stones - assuming the media is right; first 34m and now 40m - and yet we are playing around by submitting bids way below the wanted fee! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea4 1,521 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I hope we sign Stones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 It's a calculated risk. If he plays for us for 10 years, like Luke Shaw will for Manchester United, it's a worthwhile investment. If we sign him, he shows no signs of improving and we dump he after 2-3 years, then it's money down the drain. It really can go either way with young English players because most of them have their heads up their own arses. Stones doesn't strike me as being that way. He seems quiet, unassuming, and dedicated to improving his game. I don't think I've ever even seen him do an interview. He has his feet on the ground and that's the type of kid we need; more players in the Zouma mould, rather than the Sterling one.I agree but at the same time Sterling did what I thought he would and took the piss. We should have signed the sod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,903 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 John Stones to Chelsea: Everton reject £30million bidThis Stones transfer saga is really infuriating. We know how much Everton want for Stones - assuming the media is right; first 34m and now 40m - and yet we are playing around by submitting bids way below the wanted fee! This is just what I was coming in to post.It almost feels as though we're throwing in low bid after low bid to get a reaction from Stones himself. That he'll tell Everton he wants to leave and they'll then come and negotiate with us. That clearly isn't happening because Stones isn't the type to kick up a fuss.All we're doing here is making them angrier. Just bid the £35-40m and get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tautvix 1,321 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Sky Sports understand that Chelsea have made a third bid for Everton's central defender John Stones - and that the offer, this time of £30m, has been rejected by the Toffees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Laporte buy out is 35,6 m pounds and I think he is better than stones...Everton are playing with fire here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Martinez is going to crack up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 40mil. hahahhahahahahahhahaha.. what has the world come to.40mil for john fucking stones. i guess i am worth a million too!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Sicarius 610 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Its going like i thought, they just want rip us the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mak 4,459 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 This is quite funny considering the fact that they refused to play him at the start of last season. One decent season, amazing. That simple word 'potential' being attached to an english player makes them very expensive. His actual worth is around 20m, but the maximum we should bid is 35m. Either that or 30m + Moses. He may as well be used for some good instead of rotting on the bench. If they don't take it, we should just walk away, let Martinez and Stones battle out mid-table mediocrity. There are plenty of other areas of the squad where the money like that could be used, namely CM and RW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 How can we be so absolutely sure that Stones hasn't already told Martinez he would like to come here? And this is why Martinez said the player has been "affected" and refused to answer when questioned if Stones wants to join, This scenario would make sense as to why we are lowballing, we want Stones to emphasise his wish to join. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanicus 5,208 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 40mil. hahahhahahahahahhahaha.. what has the world come to.40mil for john fucking stones. i guess i am worth a million too!!!I'm worth 2 then... I can even play in the pivot and pass backwards! In fact, I'm no worse than Mikel probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I might check grand old team later see how many of them still think Barca or Madrid will sign him for £50m next year ROFLMAOROFLGreat post this on twitter i seen "John Stones ability wise is not worth anywhere near £30m. His passport says he is" ^ That is bang on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 40mil. hahahhahahahahahhahaha.. what has the world come to.40mil for john fucking stones. i guess i am worth a million too!!!Im sure it will be 34 not 40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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