Toni Kroos

[The Skipper 20,593]

Another one off to United most likely. Crazy if we don't attempt to sign him. He's going to go for a ridiculously cheap price and be a steal if United get him.

Prices of around £20m being banded about. Would be a really good signing.

[Pizy 18,416]

Prices of around £20m being banded about. Would be a really good signing.

Exactly. We won't find anyone of his class out there for this cheap. We may see United go from having a bang average squad last season to one of the best basically overnight. Top class new manager, Kroos, Shaw, and obviously a few more big signings. We can offer Kroos more than they can currently in footballing terms. CL, better location, top manager, and a team who are much closer to winning things.

We need Schürlle to have a word with him ASAP!

[drog.ba 239]

£20m + whatever ridiculous wages he wants. Doubt Mourinho would really want him as he'd likely only use him as the no.10 where we have numbers

[DidkoDrogbata 7]

Is he really that good? I haven't really watched Bayern's matches outside of Champions League on TV in the last few years and from the matches i've watched he didn't really impress me that much. Yes, his price is cheap, but if you take into account that he wants something ridiculous like 260k per week makes him infact not as cheap as it sounds. Do we really need him that much or is he that good to the point we should bid just so United or some other english club doesen't get him?

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

I don't really understand, why Bayern need to sell him at the first place?

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Kroos just doesn't suit a counter attacking team like Chelsea! Kroos is only good when his team dominates possession and he has all the time and space in the world to make those Hollywood passes! he is slow and isnt good defensively! He wouldn't be able to have that time and space on the ball in the PL! if he eaves Bayern he should go to teams like Barca, PSG or Juventus where he will get that luxury of playing in a team that has 70-80% possession every week and allow him to have all the time in the world to make his Hollywood passes!

I would much rather Rakitic over Kroos anyday!

[Pizy 18,416]

Wow, lol. The Guardian now reporting that United have ending their pursuit of Kroos.

Come on, José!

[drog.ba 239]

I don't really understand, why Bayern need to sell him at the first place?

year left on his contract I think + his wage demands are too high, outside the limit Bayern are willing to give any player.

I still think he is likely to stay, seems Guardiola wants him to, he's probably just using Utd's interest to force Bayern into agreeing to his demands, without really intending to move. How often do you see top clubs losing their best midfielders to teams who aren't in the CL

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Van Gaal isn't stupid! He knows Kroos won't get time and space on the ball for his Hollywood passes in the PL! Smart move.

[Pizy 18,416]

Van Gaal isn't stupid! He knows Kroos won't get time and space on the ball for his Hollywood passes in the PL! Smart move.

Top sides in the PL including ourselves WILL have the majority of possession in most of their games. Think Kroos would adapt very well to this league as long as he has players around him to mask his weaknesses which we have.

For £20-25m there isn't anyone better out there.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Top sides in the PL including ourselves WILL have the majority of possession in most of their games. Think Kroos would adapt very well to this league as long as he has players around him to mask his weaknesses which we have.

For £20-25m there isn't anyone better out there.

We averaged 55% possession last season! Nothing compared to Bayern! Plus the PL is a faster league! And Kroos is only effective when he has time and space on the ball! And he isn't quick like Matic! Teams with pace would be able to counter attack against us a lot easier!

And what will happen when we go to the Etihad or Anfield??? He will likely be dropped for someone who can defend and has pace to counter attack with like Ramires!

[Nike 373]

Kroos being sold means Pep has a replacement lined up.....

[Pizy 18,416]

We averaged 55% possession last season! Nothing compared to Bayern! Plus the PL is a faster league! And Kroos is only effective when he has time and space on the ball! And he isn't quick like Matic! Teams with pace would be able to counter attack against us a lot easier!

And what will happen when we go to the Etihad or Anfield??? He will likely be dropped for someone who can defend and has pace to counter attack with like Ramires!

To your last point: exactly! If we needed pace and grit in midfield against sides like City or Liverpool or need to overpower a side we could play Ramires in there or Luiz if he's still around. Against sides that we struggled against this past season that park the bus or defend deep and LET US HAVE THE MAJORITY OF POSSESION Kroos could sit back and run the show just as he does at Bayern. Ramires is totally useless in those games.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

To your last point: exactly! If we needed pace and grit in midfield against sides like City or Liverpool or need to overpower a side we could play Ramires in there or Luiz if he's still around. Against sides that we struggled against this past season that park the bus or defend deep and LET US HAVE THE MAJORITY OF POSSESION Kroos could sit back and run the show just as he does at Bayern. Ramires is totally useless in those games.

So why would Jose want someone who he wouldn't trust in the big games??? He sold Mata for that reason!

And yes Ramires is ineffective against parked buses, but is someone who will just make Hollywood passes really what we need? I'd rather an all rounder who has more to their game then pretty passes when no one is closing them down!

[Special Juan 27,439]

@JanAageFjortoft Chelsea apparently have told Bayern to "name the price" for Toni Kroos. Told player "wages no problem"

[Pizy 18,416]

So why would Jose want someone who he wouldn't trust in the big games??? He sold Mata for that reason!

And yes Ramires is ineffective against parked buses, but is someone who will just make Hollywood passes really what we need? I'd rather an all rounder who has more to their game then pretty passes when no one is closing them down!

I'd rather have an all rounder too, but all of those that are of the class we need would cost double what Kroos would.

[Magic Lamps 11,668]

Well he is 24 and already worldclass, 20-25m is a fuckin bargain. The sky is the limit for this guy, the problem is, can he play in the pivot? Mou obviously wants a quick player there and Kroos does not even have half the pace of oscar or even Willian.

[Special Juan 27,439]

I absolutely love watching this lad. Watching v Arsenal in the CL this season was nothing short of a joy to watch. If there is any truth in these rumors to us then we simply must make it happen.

Magical footballer.