Mohammed Seif 1,451 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Against Fulham? I'm not sure, but it was a very poor performance by the team. Well I understand why you would say that and I do respect it a lot. But we pretty much dominated the first half as far as I remember. I think it was only Dempsy's header that posed some threat ( but still of target). Their midfield and defense were just a mess.We constantly put presssure on therm, forced them to lose the ball quickly and create nearly no chances. Torres should have scored at least once. I just think that after we scored our first goal, Fulham was forced to open up because of their critical position in the league table and with their weak defense we were able to exploit the gaps they left behind as they tried ti move forward yet failed. I think the only player who improved in the second half significantly was Schurrle, not because he scored three times, but because he made great runs and created space for himself. I don't recall any great difference in performance from any of the players. I am not saying they were bad. I am just trying to say that they were good tactically from the first half but it all payed off in the second. I might be wrong but that is how I kind saw it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohammed Seif 1,451 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Although unlikely, hope Sunderland can cause an upset today and beat City. That could be a potentially damaging psychological blow to them if they were to lose. Would increase the pressure on them and especially when Pellegrini himself hasn't won any trophies in his career so far. Might not know how to handle the issue if it happens.Well Sunderland scored . Maybe it could happen mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Why was the first half poor?It was very disjointed all round. Clattenberg didn't let the game run, there were a couple of breaks early on for injuries and no-one was setting the tempo.In the second-half Hazard seemed to come central a lot more and take a bit of responsibility. Ultimately though, we're still a team without a decent striker and increasingly looking a little lost in midfield. Jose's right in what he says that our position is false. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohammed Seif 1,451 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 It was very disjointed all round. Clattenberg didn't let the game run, there were a couple of breaks early on for injuries and no-one was setting the tempo.In the second-half Hazard seemed to come central a lot more and take a bit of responsibility. Ultimately though, we're still a team without a decent striker and increasingly looking a little lost in midfield. Jose's right in what he says that our position is false.But do you think there was a significant change in the players' performance or was it because the game changed tactically after we scored our first goal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 But do you think there was a significant change in the players' performance or was it because the game changed tactically after we scored our first goal?Fulham did seem to push up a little in the second-half which is why Schurrle could get behind them, but he couldn't buy a first touch in the first-half whereas that cushioned ball to Hazard was perfect. Then you have to say that Hazard seemed to come inside a bit more to be there for that pass.I just think we're very lucky to have people in the squad who have been there and got the t-shirt and probably had a few words to say in the half-time break. Everything seemed to just slot into place better in that second-half. Completely speculating but I also think not having the sun right in our eyes might've helped too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 But do you think there was a significant change in the players' performance or was it because the game changed tactically after we scored our first goal?The difference between the first half and the second, imo, is just the runs. In the first half, our front four did not make runs, did not move right and create space. We also lost most of the aerial duels and second balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohammed Seif 1,451 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 The difference between the first half and the second, imo, is just the runs. In the first half, our front four did not make runs, did not move right and create space. We also lost most of the aerial duels and second balls. But it was only Schurrle who made the runs in the second half, unless I am mistaken? Oscar was more defensive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dee25 1,044 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Well I understand why you would say that and I do respect it a lot. But we pretty much dominated the first half as far as I remember. I think it was only Dempsy's header that posed some threat ( but still of target). Their midfield and defense were just a mess.We constantly put presssure on therm, forced them to lose the ball quickly and create nearly no chances. Torres should have scored at least once. I just think that after we scored our first goal, Fulham was forced to open up because of their critical position in the league table and with their weak defense we were able to exploit the gaps they left behind as they tried ti move forward yet failed. I think the only player who improved in the second half significantly was Schurrle, not because he scored three times, but because he made great runs and created space for himself. I don't recall any great difference in performance from any of the players. I am not saying they were bad. I am just trying to say that they were good tactically from the first half but it all payed off in the second. I might be wrong but that is how I kind saw it.I think Hazard improved significantly and so did Schurrle. I also don't think the runs Schurrle made were accidental. In second half there was a deliberate effort at getting in behind the fulham defence, whether that was Mourinho's or Steve Holland's instructions or not, I don't know. But imo there were definitely some tactical adjustments in the 2nd half. It also helped that Scott and Sidwell (who were very lively in the first half) began to tire and that allowed us to impose our game some more. Everything actually just fell into place in the second half. weird game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 But it was only Schurrle who made the runs in the second half, unless I am mistaken? Oscar was more defensiveNot just runs behind the defense, those are the easiest to make, but general runs to create spaces for teammates, like Torres making diagonal runs to create space centrally for Eden to attack, or diagonal runs from Hazard and Schurrle to the center to create spaces down the flanks or put Torres 1-vs1 with a defender and even over lapping runs from full backs or Oscar down flank to get rid of double markings and most importantly runs or just general movement from the three behind the striker to pick up the ball from deep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Every game a cup final etc.One draw/loss and could be the difference.City and Arsenal look likely to be out of Europe but never know could turn it around.We're not exactly through yet so all this they have less distraction in that sense may not come into playCity game in hands,pressure for them just depends how they respond to it...nervey times ahead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Well Sunderland scored . Maybe it could happen mateThanks for jinxing it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohammed Seif 1,451 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Thanks for jinxing it... I expected that comment when city equalized....sorry mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Just seen Chelsea have more points this season (63) than in the same stage in 2009-10 when we won the double under Carlo (61) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 I still think its City to lose. They will leave UCL, so they must win the PL. Its a long season, and the "we are playing bad, but keep winning" wont last forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger admits it will be hard to catch leaders Chelsea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Just seen Chelsea have more points this season (63) than in the same stage in 2009-10 when we won the double under Carlo (61)Exactly! Comparing our squad now to what Ancelloti had, my goodness mourinho has done a fantastic job. Who would have imagined that if we win 8 of our last 10 games we would be finishing with 87 points we never got anywhere near that in the past 4 seasons.I still think its City to lose. They will leave UCL, so they must win the PL. Its a long season, and the "we are playing bad, but keep winning" wont last forever.On the positive side, manutd won the title so many times playing shit for 80mins and scoring 3 in last 10mins.No one complained about that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 I still think its City to lose. They will leave UCL, so they must win the PL. Its a long season, and the "we are playing bad, but keep winning" wont last forever.I'll throw this out there now....City can beat Barcelona. Away from home, nothing to lose, Aguero back, Toure out to prove a point and Barca nowhere near the team they were last season could all combine to give City a great European night.City can score two goals in the Nou Camp but it's whether they can keep it tidy at the back that's the issue.I actually think that Wigan might be able to get a draw in the Cup game if City rest players and focus on the Barca game (which they absolutely should). Barca have a match away to Valladolid before that which could be a potential banana skin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 That cup win yesterday, especially the way they came back, will be a huge psychological boost for City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Points in the bag> Games in hand.We just need to keep plugging away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magic weeds 446 Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 This is the only moment I am wishing for United to play Well and actually win a game. They should win against Pool and City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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