Ainsley Harriott 2,732 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I would offer Nat a squad role till the summer TBH but thats just me.I wouldn't mind bringing in Guarin, offering Chalobah a role and getting rid of one of Essien or Mikel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Weak on the ball? Yeah, that's not true at all. I don't know where you got that idea from because he's actually known to be pretty sound technically. Yes he can defend, can run, can tackle etc, but he's also a strong passer. He's good at everything without excelling at anything in particular. As far as I'm aware, his ability on the ball and overall technique has never been in question. What people criticize him for is his decision making which can be inconsistent and poor at times. He tends to shoot a lot instead of picking out a teammate in a better position; considering that 'intricate interplay' is something we've been struggling to do, I wonder if Guarin won't just compound that problem.....but these are problems that can be ironed out by coaching instructions. Anyway, we would all love an elite midfield talent, but (a non cup-tied) Guarin for 15 mill is really not bad business - probably around the same amount spurs paid for Dembele and much less than Utd paid for Fellaini. In my opinion, Guarin offers far more than both and of course that doesn't mean we can't dip back into the transfer market in the summer for an elite centre mid. I got it from watching almost every single game Guarin has played with Inter. I follow the Serie A very closely and my best mate is probably the biggest Inter fan in Lebanon. I watch almost all of Inter's games either with him or alone to later discuss the game with him. His passing below average and his shooting, though very powerful, is just woeful in terms of shot accuracy and his dribble is also pretty bad and he's one of the most dispossessed player in the Serie A, especially this season. Hence, his technical ability on the ball is not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Who said anything about Schurrle being a Mourinho signing???.Jose is not stupid, he will know a lot about Guarin, of course Jose has made some bad signings who hasn't! but a player with Porto and Inter connections, plus the fact Jose went to see him play against Belgium shows how keen he is on the player! I am sure Jose has done more then enough research on the player!but again its not all about doing your research on a player, its also about the player actually performing! and playing to his full potential in a new league and new country which isn't always easy to do! and who cares if Inter fans wont be too bothered about him leaving! that means nothing! there are many examples of players who leave clubs to move on to a bigger challenge and excel! guarin will be already 28 next summer. it aint like he has got 10 years to develop. he is already nearly a finished player and hasnt proven himself that much. he wasnt even a standout player for Porto..they sold him for like 10 million I think. he is a good player, but not world-class. and what we need is world-class in the DM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Guarin in January. Summer Essien and Mikel move on, Witsel comes in.Next season: Witsel, Ramires, Guarin, Lampard, Chalobah, MVG.If only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Next season: Witsel, Ramires, Guarin, Lampard, Chalobah, MVG. I honestly think that looks horrendous. You have the technical ability of a donkey in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 From what I have gathered which isn't a lot I must admit! He will organise midfield, make us harder to play against and break down I'm not expecting a yaya or Alonso here, more of a Mikel that can pass and get the attacks moving FASTERPlease correct me of I'm wrong I'm pretty sure I've never seen him play!!Not even close! He'll run all game, press and chase players and give us physicality but he won't move the ball forward well, he'll shoot a lot and hit row z 99% of the times and he'll lose the ball often which is why I don't think he fits in 4-2-3-1 unless Jose wants to give him Oscar's place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I got it from watching almost every single game Guarin has played with Inter. I follow the Serie A very closely and my best mate is probably the biggest Inter fan in Lebanon. I watch almost all of Inter's games either with him or alone to later discuss the game with him. His passing below average and his shooting, though very powerful, is just woeful in terms of shot accuracy and his dribble is also pretty bad and he's one of the most dispossessed player in the Serie A, especially this season. Hence, his technical ability on the ball is not good.His passing and dribbling are definitely not bad. He's actually a very good dribbler for a box-to-box midfielder. Technically he's perfectly fine, but he's just lacking in intelligence/effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Choulo doesn't rate him, but constantly bigs up Mikel. Should be a definite purchase then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,959 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I honestly think that looks horrendous. You have the technical ability of a donkey in there.I still dream of Modric. If only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 and he's one of the most dispossessed player in the Serie A Alongside Vidal.So that's not really relevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Come on 19 knows he is exactly what Jose had ordered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Alongside Vidal.So that's not really relevant Not only that, it's not even true. He ranks 36th in Serie A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Alongside Vidal.So that's not really relevant Well Vidal is not exactly known for his dribbling ability. When Vidal or Guarin is playing with two midfielders behind him, he can afford to lose the ball He can't in a 4-2-3-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Well Vidal is not exactly known for his dribbling ability. When Vidal or Guarin is playing with two midfielders behind him, he can afford to lose the ball He can't in a 4-2-3-1. And Guarin won't be dispossessed as often if he plays in the double pivot. Fact is he get dispossessed less than 2 times a game in a role that's more advanced than the one he will play here, so it's not even the biggest issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 And Guarin won't be dispossessed as often if he plays in the double pivot. Fact is he get dispossessed less than 2 times a game in a role that's more advanced than the one he will play here, so it's not even the biggest issue.That's in the Serie A where very few teams press in midfield. In the PL you don't get more than one second on the ball in midfield without being pressed. And that's just one of the issues.Again, the fact that most inter fans are happy to see him go should tell you everything about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 That's in the Serie A where very few teams press in midfield. In the PL you don't get more than one second on the ball in midfield without being pressed. And that's just one of the issues.Again, the fact that most inter fans are happy to see him go should tell you everything about him.Yes. Let's just get rid of our scouting and management team. Why waste so much money on scouting players when we can just visit opposition forums?And I actually checked their forum. Most of them are cool with selling him but not at the rumoured price of 15M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Yes. Let's just get rid of our scouting and management team. Why waste so much money on scouting players when we can just visit opposition forums?If you read the forum you'll see a wide range of views about him. The strongest feeling seems to be that he's inconsistent.Although I think you're overlooking the opinion of Choulo's friend who is the biggest Inter fan in Lebanon (akin to being the tallest guy in a dwarf talent show). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I honestly think that looks horrendous. You have the technical ability of a donkey in there.witsel has great technique Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Yes. Let's just get rid of our scouting and management team. Why waste so much money on scouting players when we can just visit opposition forums?And I actually checked their forum. Most of them are cool with selling him but not at the rumoured price of 15MWell this is a forum to discuss what we think of players. If we want to go with "trust our scouts" or "trust Jose" we might as well close this whole section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Sign him up.Shocking how everything goes to hell with the midfield when Ramires does not play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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