Special Juan 28,141 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 I'm so negative about this. I am going to the bookies to bet on a 2-2 draw, WHU scoring first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 This game is a must win game. The way we have struggled to break down teams in the first half cannot be afforded here. We need to attack and score early and we just havent found the right formula against defensive teams with 4-2-3-1.But 3-5-2 tears defensive teams apart.You know alardyce more than me, he is a master tactician. West ham have conceded one of the fewest goals this season, if we go with 4-2-3-1 and play like recently we will not even score. Alardyce master tactician??? Well now i have read everything. And oh i saw a flying pig yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 This game is a must win game. The way we have struggled to break down teams in the first half cannot be afforded here. We need to attack and score early and we just havent found the right formula against defensive teams with 4-2-3-1.But 3-5-2 tears defensive teams apart.You know alardyce more than me, he is a master tactician. West ham have conceded one of the fewest goals this season, if we go with 4-2-3-1 and play like recently we will not even score. In what sense has the 3-5-2 or ours tear defensive teams apart?We may have had some joy with it this season but that's because we started throwing more attacking players on the pitch (some even playing as FBs) and the oppositions didn't have the time and/or couldn't react quickly enough to the change. It's just sheer persistence and pressure that has got us over the line with that formation this season. And moreover, let's not forget we also got exposed and had luck on our side such as the games against Norwich and Cardiff. Could have conceded the second goal, when at 1-1, but didn't and we managed to get some luck in the end at both ends. The 3-5-2 system is not all that conquering and great like you're making it out to be. With Mourinho, that formation is only meant to be a Plan B, nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Since the above poster saw a flying pig the other day, funny but I saw one too. Flying Chelsea colors above Stamford Bridge with Jose looking on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 Here's two (encouraging, maybe) stats ahead of this game...1. West Ham have only won 1 of their 5 Premier League games at Upton Park this season - D1 L3. That win was a 2-0 success over Cardiff back in August.2. West Ham have only won 2 of their 11 Premier League games this season - 2-0 win vs Cardiff and 3-0 vs Tottenham. (In other words, they haven't won when teams scored against them...or when they have not scored themselves. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Alardyce master tactician??? Well now i have read everything. And oh i saw a flying pig yesterdaycalm down dude. alardyce is a good defensive strategist. Unless you started watching premier league last season then i can understand if u dont understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 calm down dude. alardyce is a good defensive strategist. Unless you started watching premier league last season then i can understand if u dont understandYep agree. No one knows how to organize a better defense than Big Sam does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Well, we all know Sam is going to play defensively. However, can Jose find some pot holes in it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 In what sense has the 3-5-2 or ours tear defensive teams apart?We may have had some joy with it this season but that's because we started throwing more attacking players on the pitch (some even playing as FBs) and the oppositions didn't have the time and/or couldn't react quickly enough to the change. It's just sheer persistence and pressure that has got us over the line with that formation this season. And moreover, let's not forget we also got exposed and had luck on our side such as the games against Norwich and Cardiff. Could have conceded the second goal, when at 1-1, but didn't and we managed to get some luck in the end at both ends. The 3-5-2 system is not all that conquering and great like you're making it out to be. With Mourinho, that formation is only meant to be a Plan B, nothing more.You are making it seem like I've thrown away the whole team, no.The starters are still the same, they can easily switch back to a 4-2-3-1 at any point in the match. I'm busy right now, I'll be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 In what sense has the 3-5-2 or ours tear defensive teams apart?We may have had some joy with it this season but that's because we started throwing more attacking players on the pitch (some even playing as FBs) and the oppositions didn't have the time and/or couldn't react quickly enough to the change. It's just sheer persistence and pressure that has got us over the line with that formation this season. And moreover, let's not forget we also got exposed and had luck on our side such as the games against Norwich and Cardiff. Could have conceded the second goal, when at 1-1, but didn't and we managed to get some luck in the end at both ends. The 3-5-2 system is not all that conquering and great like you're making it out to be. With Mourinho, that formation is only meant to be a Plan B, nothing more.Can you boldly tell me that we have looked more threatning than when we changed to 3-5-2 against small teams?? The plan B can be used earlier to relieve the pressure from the team. The formation i put is just a tactical change that can render westham's game strategy useless. Why??Because they wont expect it. and will line up to do what westbrom and newcastle did to us in the first half.The same players can still switch back to 4-2-3-1cech ivanovic terry luiz willian ramires mikel bertrand mata Eto/torres Hazard cech ivanovic terry luiz bertrand mikel ramires willian mata hazard eto/torres The same players can switch formations in the first half and get an early goal instead of waiting to see how we can break the defence till the second half and then changing when its too late. Juventus do this all the time, its not like i created it out of no where Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Close the main tube line to the Pikey Caravan Park on the day of the match. Great logic there from Transport for London. Cheers Boris you tosser.Close The main tube line for the Chelsea- Liverpool game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 calm down dude. alardyce is a good defensive strategist. Unless you started watching premier league last season then i can understand if u dont understandCalm down? what the hell dude you just called Alardyce a Master tactician? i guess you also rate RDM as a "Master Tactician" just because he can set up good a good defensive unit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Even Jose said he wouldn't mess with big sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjperdeath 2,226 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Calm down? what the hell dude you just called Alardyce a Master tactician? i guess you also rate RDM as a "Master Tactician" just because he can set up good a good defensive unit... I think what he meant by saying master tactician is that Allardyce is one of the best in the leagues when it comes to hardcore English defending. You're seeing it in a different sense than he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Torres not ready Jose says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 22, 2013 Author Share Posted November 22, 2013 Torres not ready Jose says.And Cole is fit for selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Torres not ready Jose says.Bollocks.Ashley Cole ready though so that's something. Wouldn't be surprised if Ba got the nod to be honest, but hopefully whoever starts shows something tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Bollocks.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 ?An exclamation of frustration. Would've started Torres in this one because I think West Ham might actually try and make a game of it and leave spaces in behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 Hope Eto'o starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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