Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 Loving the unappreciative of Koke in here, yes he isn't worth 48m in the same way Pogba isn't worth anything over 35-40m, Shaw 20m...etc. But teams will still have to pay these prices. You know why? Because they don't want to leave at any mean and their clubs don't want to sell as well, well not for acceptable prices. If you don't take inflation into account, Koke is worth 25-30m min in today's market anyway. He is better now than Mata was when he joined us in 2011. So people not wanting him here because the price is one thing but underrating him is unacceptable. You guys need to understand that just because he doesn't bang them in from 30 yards like Pogba doesn't mean he is shit or average. His crosses are possibly one of the best in Europe atm and we witnessed some of it 1st hand when he hit the bar early on against us, he has been doing that regularly for Atletico-but most of you don't watch Liga so you wouldn't know. Koke is better than Willian, Oscar, Salah and Schurrle atm. I would say he is even on par with Mata/Cazorla based on this season's form.What are you talking about??Its about FIT! Where would you play Koke? I know exactly where Pogba fits on our current squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted May 30, 2014 Share Posted May 30, 2014 What are you talking about??Its about FIT! Where would you play Koke? I know exactly where Pogba fits on our current squad.I know, I am not saying we should sign him as he is not really a CM that we need, I am just talking about people who are seriously underrating him as player. Btw if he could be a good replacement for Oscar if we sell him to PSG but that is not going to happen.Obviously for our team Pogba would be a better fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea? 892 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Dude you're living in a dream world if you think Mourinho is gonna pay 50m to Atletico for Koke to play him out of position. Chelsea play 4-2-3-1 not 4-4-2 or 4-3-3(on occasion sure) We have Oscar, Hazard, Schurrle, Moses, Salah, Willian and Marin under contract mainly because we play 4-2-3-1 we aren't going to abandon that philosophy to accommodate Koke... He hasn't played in the pivot and likely can't, I don't care how many more years he's had at the top flight, Pogba is BY FAR a much better fit to the way WE want to play and the positional need WE have.I don't get why people here want to spend loads of cash on one player to play him out of position or worse to change the philosophy of the team!IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN PEOPLE, TOO MUCH INVESTMENT HAS GONE INTO MAKING THIS TEAM WHAT IT IS NOW.Can we start working within the framework of the club at present and stop making these ridiculous claims that don't work with the personnel we've accumulated? If you want to have a no.10 play in the pivot what you're saying is you want Chelsea FC to fire Jose Mourinho.Chelsea have a new philosophy every 3 years. The initial investment was to play passing football, that's changed with Jose. I'm not sure of Jose's tactics regarding 433 but that seems to actually fit us better. Oscar is not a #10, we don't have a pogba/toure type player either. A 433 with Matic, oscar and koke looks pretty good to me. Saying all this, I'd stick to the 4231 and sign Pogba for 60+mil. I actually want him more than Costa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,887 Posted May 31, 2014 Author Share Posted May 31, 2014 Lol I remember when everyone said he was a flanks player. Simeone plays his playmakers on the wings, Koke would be brilliant for us in the pivot, great vision and technique and in general a very very good rounded player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Said he's very happy at his home, Atletico, and he wants to stay there no matter who comes in for him.http://www.ar.beinsports.net/football/article/j64rx9i3n60n1p3azgfjq90lk/%D9%83%D9%88%D9%83%D9%8A-%D9%8A%D8%B1%D9%81%D8%B6-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B1%D8%AD%D9%8A%D9%84-%D8%B9%D9%86-%D8%A3%D8%AA%D9%84%D8%AA%D9%8A%D9%83%D9%88-%D9%85%D8%AF%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%AF (arabic because I'm too lazy to find one in English )EDIT: Here's a couple of English links:http://www.insidespanishfootball.com/110607/koke-i-want-to-continue-at-atletico/http://www.ftbpro.com/posts/chris.deeley/973960/atletico-madrid-midfielder-koke-insists-he-s-going-nowhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namika 922 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 http://www.esport3.cat/noticia/2413115/futbol/El-fitxatge-de-Lampard-pel-Manchester-City-complica-les-gestions-del-Barca-per-incorporar-Koke-segons-ha-pogut-saber-TV3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted May 31, 2014 Share Posted May 31, 2014 Yeah I guess he will stay in Atletico or move to Barca eventualy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Top Spainards want to go to Madrid or Barcelona.Koke will go to one of them eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Top Spainards want to go to Madrid or Barcelona.Koke will go to one of them eventually. Koke is already in Madrid:ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas Lion 1,223 Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Why would Koke want to move? He's already playing for the best team in Madrid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Why would Koke want to move? He's already playing for the best team in MadridNot next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duppy Conqueror 1,544 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 According to Sky sports website..(for what it's worth) us and Barca are battling for his signature..if true i hope Courtois isn't involved in any bid we make for him..but Torres,yes please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Apparently Koke's first option and Cesc is the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severinb 309 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Wow koke would be great my second choice after pogba! And hope we get him and not cesc he is younger and will be better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namika 922 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 If we sign Koke and Cesc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 @ChelsTransfer: Chelsea are taking steps to bring Koke to Stamford Bridge as Jose Mourinho looks to further strengthen his squad for next season. #CFC (Sky) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 @ChelsTransfer: Chelsea are taking steps to bring Koke to Stamford Bridge as Jose Mourinho looks to further strengthen his squad for next season. #CFC (Sky)Surely it's either him or Fabregas, don't see both being able to fit in this squad.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Is Athletico really going to lose Courtois, Luis, Tiago, Koke and Costa in one summer after winning the Liga? Courtois and Tiago they can't do anything about. But no way they let the other three walk.If the rumours are to be believe all 5 will be at Chelsea next season haha. But tbh, I'd like em all here if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldportblue 547 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Apparently Koke's first option and Cesc is the second.yeah read that too... i think koke won't move and we'll be in for cesc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Is Athletico really going to lose Courtois, Luis, Tiago, Koke and Costa in one summer after winning the Liga? Courtois and Tiago they can't do anything about. But no way they let the other three walk.If the rumours are to be believe all 5 will be at Chelsea next season haha. But tbh, I'd like em all here if possible.With Barca letting Fabregas go, it's not hard to imagine they'll target Koke's release clause. Word is they'll look to Rakitic.. Hopefully they'll replace all these players well, I'd hate to see their success diminish so suddenly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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